Episode 23

"Godzilla Minus One" Review aka "Trick or Treat Quarters"

Published on: 19th June, 2024

Oh no, Godzilla is attacking the podcast, well, maybe it is the other way around. This week for the podcast we review the movie "Godzilla Minus One" now streaming on Netflix.

First, Bryan gives us a rundown of his trip to the Great Smokey Mountains. Then we play a great game of Catch That Quotable. Marcus give us his rant against the delays to Marvel's Blade. Then we finally give our full review of "Godzilla Minus One."

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Transcript
::

I have very many... That's

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what you... Okay.

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I mean, okay.

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That's what you mean.

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I have very many

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leather-bound books in my library.

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Okay.

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Wow.

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I have many volumes that I page through.

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You know,

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there's a lot of people I realize

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that collect books,

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but they don't read them shit.

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The bind has never been broken.

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They just collect them shit.

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They sure as shit don't, Marcus.

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You're right.

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Yeah.

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There's a lot of

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motherfuckers that just read shit.

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Anyway, how about we party, huh?

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Welcome back, boys.

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What's DJ's been doing?

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DJ, spin that shit.

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Dedicated to Brian.

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I just sliced off my hand

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It's imperative that you

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understand Obi-Wan would

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never bother Tell me more

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about your father He told

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me enough He told me you

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killed him Then there's something I must

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Welcome to Films in Black and White,

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everybody.

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How are you all feeling?

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We have a fantastic Monday

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to be with you all.

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To those that did not enjoy

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the chaos that was last week,

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don't worry.

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Don't fret.

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Sleep easy.

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Brian is back, everybody.

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Our buffer is back, baby.

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Cheers to the buffer being back.

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Cheers to the buffer.

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Boy, howdy, did we need it.

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Boy,

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wait till I upload this clip from last

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week.

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I didn't want to upload it

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till Brian listened to the episode.

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But, you know,

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wait till I upload that clip

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about the green M&M.

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Yeah, that's a real thing.

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You know, as I listened, I was like, hey,

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this is full, unfiltered,

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just Doug and Marcus

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without anyone being like, hey, what?

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Explain that.

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And it just keeps going.

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And it's like a runaway train.

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And I love every minute of it.

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Brian, what was your favorite?

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What was your favorite?

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What moment made you go?

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Oh, shit.

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I mean, I mean, like, look, I knew.

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Let me put it this way.

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I knew I was in for a good

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time when I saw the promo

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image of the green M&M.

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And I was like, I know.

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I know where this goes.

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I know what you know, who's responsible.

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And I know exactly who's responsible.

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And then there was AI art of big Texas.

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And don't forget Mr. Boo.

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At that point, I was like, okay,

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is there like a second meaning here?

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No, it's all face value.

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It's all face value.

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Don't dig.

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It's right there at the surface.

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You'll get it.

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Everybody loves the allegory alligator.

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Yeah.

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That's right.

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If you haven't listened to

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last week's episode, put in your AirPods,

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buckle up, and have a good time,

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because I had a good time.

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I had a good time with it.

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We'll upload all of the comics,

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our new comic book run that

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we'll be doing.

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Yeah.

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Chat GPT, but yeah.

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It was Bing Creator.

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Sorry, Bing Creator.

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But we have a fantastic episode.

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We're going to hear about

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Brian's trip to Tennessee.

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I've got to make sure I call

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it by the right thing,

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otherwise he might be confused.

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To the mountainous region of Tennessee.

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Look at his nickname.

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He changed it.

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he changed his nickname oh

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he did he did listeners you

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have to understand it was a

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puddle his chiron was a

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puddle before we started

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recording now it's an

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educated man um yeah um but

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we're also we watched uh

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godzilla minus one which is

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why we are films in black

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and white plus one

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cancel each other out into a

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great episode uh hopefully

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everybody saw what I was

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doing um but we are going

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to talk godzilla minus one

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so spoiler alert here at

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the top just that way you

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know if you haven't seen it

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yet yes um just and you

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don't want us to ruin it uh

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just like all the godzilla

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movies too while we're at

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it yeah yeah pretty much

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pretty much anything yeah yeah

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But gentlemen,

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we have a whole ass episode

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that we need to get into,

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and I'm going to turn it on

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over to Brian Roush, a.k.a.

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Baby Bear himself.

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Brian, how you feeling, sir?

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I'm feeling good to be here.

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I was on vacation last week,

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so I had a break.

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I feel recharged.

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I was in the Smoky Mountains,

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which Doug then... Oh, Rocky Top.

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You guys got it.

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I was called a Rocky top

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upon entering the studio to

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which I thought Doug was

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talking about Marcus,

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assuming it was like some

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type of inside joke.

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And then no, it was me.

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And then I was like,

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does my hair look weird?

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No, it doesn't.

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I mean, I mean a little, but like,

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not like a rock top.

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Apparently that is what you

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call people in the, in the, in the,

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in the smoky mountains in Tennessee,

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I guess.

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It was a song that was

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written by the Osborne brothers.

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And in the song,

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there is a lyric that says,

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wish I was on old Rocky top

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down in the Tennessee Hills,

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but people think that they

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pulled inspiration from the

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Thunderhead mountain area

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in the great smoky mountains.

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Well, I'm proud to be called a Rocky Top,

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even though I didn't know what that was.

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And I'm glad it was explained to me.

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So, yeah, I'm here.

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I'm ready to jam.

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I was excited that we got to

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review this movie because

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Godzilla Minus One has been

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on my list for a while.

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And then Doug was like, it's on Netflix.

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And I was like, done.

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That's easy.

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Everybody's got Netflix.

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I got Netflix.

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Yeah, we'll talk about that, too,

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because we all might be

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ditching one streaming

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service here shortly.

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Yeah, we're looking at you, Max.

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Yeah.

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Jesus.

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Yeah, no, I'm happy to be back.

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It was good to recharge my batteries.

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Smoky Mountains, beautiful area.

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When you go there for vacation.

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But yeah,

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I'm happy to be back with my guys

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talking about movies.

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So be back.

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Brian, why is your nickname Baby Bear?

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My nickname is Baby Bear

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because we were lucky

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enough to see three baby

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bears and a mama bear when

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we were on a trail the last

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night in Tennessee.

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We didn't know if we'd see anything.

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And we were like telling the kids, like,

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we're just going to go out.

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I don't know if we'll see anything.

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And we turn the corner and there's a bear.

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and like the bears are just

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like I'm from minnesota we

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don't I don't I did not

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live in an area with bears

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and so everything I know

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about bears is like oh my

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gosh don't approach the

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bear get away from the bear

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don't make a lot of noise

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and then all of a sudden

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like people are just

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pulling up in their cars

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parking like that there's a

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bear there and I'm like oh you're

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And, like, they're just hanging out.

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Just four bears, three of them babies,

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just hanging out with a bunch of humans.

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And I'm like, this feels weird.

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Meanwhile, I'm, like, with my two-year-old,

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Aiden, I'm like, please be quiet.

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And he's just like, bear, bear, bear.

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Like, immediately, like, you know,

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just like a repeated machine gun.

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Like, bear, bear, bear, bear, bear.

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And so I'm, like,

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thinking we're going to die.

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Nope, nope.

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Everyone just got the cameras out,

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and we're taking pictures of bears.

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It was a surreal experience.

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It was great.

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I was super happy to have it.

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I've never seen a bear in the wild before.

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So there you go.

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That's like a cherry on top

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for a trip like that.

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We were really hoping to make it happen,

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and the last night I was like, hey kids,

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this doesn't always happen.

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We need to be prepared.

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There's a bear!

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That's awesome.

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Brian,

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I'm so glad you had such a positive

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experience with bears.

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The only time I've

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encountered a bear in the wild was...

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you guys okay wait I just

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want to say I love when

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doug does this yeah yeah

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yeah I love when doug does

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this setup when he's like

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hey I'm really glad you had

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a you know really glad you

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had a really great time

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there the only time I had a

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terrible experience it's

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like almost every time the

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opposite experience yeah

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what exactly happened to

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you doug well now I don't want to say it

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I want to know.

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I want to know, too.

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Well, that's too bad.

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You should have thought

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about it before we had a

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comment about it.

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Because now we have to.

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Now the whole world who

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listens to this podcast is

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going to live in wonder

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about what my experience with bears is.

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You just called this man Rocky Top.

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Just tell your damn story about a bear.

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I did indeed.

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I did indeed.

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Marcus J. No,

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we want to hear the story about the bear.

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I was prepared.

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Okay,

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so the one time I encountered a bear

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was my dad and I were fly

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fishing in Wyoming,

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and the streams there kind

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of like weave in and out so

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they have like a lot of

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like switchbacks to them so

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like you kind of have to,

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my dad and I were, you know,

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walking upstream trying to

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find a good spot to fish.

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And we come around a corner

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and there's a big fucking

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bear in the stream.

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And my dad goes, nope, reel it up.

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We turn right back around

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and just kind of take off.

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And so, yeah,

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we've all had our experience with bears.

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We can fly a plane.

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What?

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Fly fishing.

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Not flying a plane.

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You don't fly while fly fishing?

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No, no, no, no, no.

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So it's all like – so fly

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fishing is done predominantly.

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It's a little bit different.

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So yeah.

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Oh, okay.

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Got it.

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That's a whole other episode.

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That's fishing filmed in black and white.

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Fishing in black and white.

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We're not there.

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We're not there.

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Excellent.

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But Marcus J. Destin,

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did you say happy Juneteenth yet?

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How are you feeling, sir?

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Good.

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Feeling pretty good.

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By the time this airs, it'll be Wednesday,

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which means it'll be Juneteenth.

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Happy Juneteenth,

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the sequel to Black History Month,

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the prequel to Black History Year.

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But I'm feeling good.

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I'm back with the trio, back with my guys.

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It was a good, productive Monday.

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The new fiscal year is starting here soon,

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so then we'll hit the ball

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fucking rolling.

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You know how that goes.

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We do, yeah.

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But no, just having a good time, man.

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Just having a real good time.

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Marcus, I have a question.

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So you know how people say

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Memorial Day kicks off the

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summer and Labor Day ends the summer?

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What is the relationship

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with Black History Month and Juneteenth?

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Is there a timeline here

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where it starts and stops?

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I just want to know how this works.

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Well...

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Freedom, number one, you know,

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everyone else in Galveston, you know,

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they didn't get free until later.

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Imagine going to a job.

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Right.

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And your job tells you, hey,

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we're moving on to a different era,

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a different chapter.

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We're going to a different

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building altogether.

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Right.

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And then later on,

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somebody doesn't tell your

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division that you're that

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everybody else is now leaving.

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Right.

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So they pull up, and they come in,

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and they ask you,

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why the fuck are y'all

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still in this building?

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And then they tell you, what do you mean,

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why are we in this building?

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They say, hey,

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we moved out this motherfucker, like,

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years ago.

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Why the fuck are y'all still here?

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It's like people go to the 12th floor,

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like, to tear the building down.

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They're like...

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What the hell are you doing?

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Why are you still in this

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contaminated-ass building?

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Why are y'all still doing this?

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Don't you know there's asbestos?

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No.

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Clearly, nobody told us on purpose.

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So then you gotta have that.

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Then when you get to Juneteenth,

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then you get the Black History Month.

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Well, happy Juneteenth, everybody.

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That's right.

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I'm a puddle.

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What's happening here?

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It is so fucking humid outside.

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It's so hot.

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It was like 90% humidity.

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It rained like

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Like, we were in the tropics.

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Like, it was just a deluge today.

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So, it's just wet.

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All week, too.

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Yeah, it's supposed to be, like,

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off and on all week.

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Which, I'm not complaining.

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Like, you know, we need it.

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But, man,

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I had to go out and mow my lawn

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this afternoon.

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And it was just like I came back.

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You would have thought I ran seven miles.

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I was just, like, drenched.

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No way.

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No way.

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But I had to do it because, like,

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it's supposed to rain all week and...

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oh I've been there I've been

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there before I gotta get it

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done now because if I don't

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that's all man because

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it'll be worse later yeah

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then I'll have to go out

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there and like yep like one

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of those things that they

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use to take them take out

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wheat like I don't know

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that's a scythe yeah there

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you go yeah I mean I get

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that too and people are

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like why are you mowing

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your lawn right now I'm

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like it's gonna rain I have

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to do this I have to do

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this if I don't do this now

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it'll take me eight hours

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y'all sound like dads it's gonna rain

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well I mean you know I'm

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like I'm losing my mind it

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does it does feel a little

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bit like that like and I

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have to catch myself

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because there are times

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where I look outside like

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out in the backyard after

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I've mowed and I'll say to

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britney to my kids or to

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anybody I'll just be like

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god damn the light the yard looks good

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Yep.

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Oh, I've done that too.

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I've done that too.

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And then I'll turn around and I'll be like,

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you know how hard it is to

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keep a long look that is good?

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And then I'll just kind of

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toddle off and do something else.

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Do you ask anybody else, like,

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does the long look good?

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I said, man, the long looks good.

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Brittany, thank God,

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was in the room with me.

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And she goes, mm-hmm, it does look good.

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And then I followed up with,

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don't you know how hard it is?

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She goes, yeah, it's really hard.

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Like,

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it feels a little patronizing at this

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point in time.

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It does.

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But I can –

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I appreciate that there's

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someone there to

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acknowledge it I can hear

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it in Brittany's voice and

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I think that that's the

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funniest part yeah it's a

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similar tone to Maggie's

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I've had this conversation

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before yeah it's familiar

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well I'm glad you got that

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done I'm glad you got it

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done I recognize that that's important

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Roman, are you at my house?

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I'm alarmed by that comment.

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Okay,

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I do want to say this because I was

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listening to the episodes.

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I was listening to all the episodes.

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For those that don't know,

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you can join our Patreon

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So when we are like...

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mentioning Roman's name or

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somebody in the chat or

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reading when it sounds like

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stopping to read random things.

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It's because people are

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And you can be a part of that too.

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It used to be $5 is the cost

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Roman says, I pay them to acknowledge me.

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It's true.

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If you want attention,

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if you want three guys to

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give you attention, we will do that.

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You just pay the tier and we

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will read whatever the fuck you want.

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Yeah.

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Well, hold on.

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We're not going to read whatever.

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Okay, you're right.

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Yeah, we're not going to read whatever.

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We've got to put cardio on it.

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We're going to get into like

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a Mr. Boo situation here.

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That's very true.

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Or somebody praying for us the last part.

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No, really.

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That was a great one.

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We probably needed it, though.

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Yeah.

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That was my best part.

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They live in their house.

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They haven't come out of their house,

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but they're praying for us.

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It was a whole thing.

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Bro!

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The deep sigh from Brian.

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Yeah,

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you'll make one joke and then

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someone's like, where's my coffee?

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You start saying the green

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M&M's are an aphrodisiac

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and next thing you know,

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they're praying for us.

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No, no, no.

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He's talking about something

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completely different.

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Brian is talking about Roman

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saying he needed coffee and

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you're still talking about

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the green M&M's.

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I mean,

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I don't agree with the green M&Ms

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being an aphrodisiac, but again,

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you've already had that conversation.

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Brian, we can loop you back into it.

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Yeah, I'm happy to.

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Brian,

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what's your take on candy used as an

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aphrodisiac?

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Yeah, for sure.

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Brian's not going, oh boy, howdy.

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It's just no.

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He heard us last week.

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I heard it.

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Brian,

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not to ignite something from Facebook,

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but what about Twix?

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How do you feel about Twix

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as that particular choice?

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What?

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so listeners I i will make

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this story very short I

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posted to facebook like hey

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twix is a good candy bar

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right because I i went to

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the grocery store as a dad

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and I was like hey you know

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I'm gonna candy bars and I

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thought twix would be like

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a crowd pleaser for

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everybody including

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children I was dead wrong I

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was told no my son

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devastated when I was like

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I got you a twix and he was like

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Really?

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Yeah.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I could talk about this for a half hour.

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I'm not going to, but I could.

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And it was like a whole

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thing in the house.

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I kid you not.

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It was a whole thing.

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I got Twixes for everybody.

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I got my wife a Snickers.

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My wife ended up being a great person.

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I was like, here, Liam, have my Snickers.

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I won't have a candy bar.

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And I'm just sitting there

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with three Twix in my hands

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like an idiot.

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So I was like,

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I feel like I'm losing my mind.

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Like I'm in the wrong multiverse.

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And so I posted it to Facebook.

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I just wanted like a little

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bit of validation from like

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my college friends who are

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still on Facebook basically.

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And it was like, people were like,

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why are you buying Twix for kids?

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Like, what are you doing?

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Like, what?

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Don't do that.

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For his kids, for his kids,

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I guess for my kids.

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And then basically it was like Snickers.

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Snickers is the general consensus,

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like general candy bar.

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Which is fine.

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Even I would say that that's incorrect.

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No, I would agree with that.

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Can we actually talk about this?

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Sure.

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We haven't had a moment for

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the three of us to just shoot the shits.

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Godzilla Minus One will be there.

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It's been out for a while.

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It's a good movie.

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It's not going anywhere.

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It's not going anywhere.

::

okay what's the question is

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it candy bar for kids or

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candy bar in general it is

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like general candy bar just

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a crowd-pleasing candy bar

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like you have to show up

::

somewhere okay and and to

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me and to just like put a

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good foot forward you're

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getting candy bars for

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everybody and you can only

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get one like you can get

::

one box okay what would

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everybody get what would

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that be we okay and let's

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go just chocolate

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I have a question.

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I have an order of

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operations question for sure.

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And I know that this is going to be,

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it's shocking coming from the candy fiend,

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but do the Reese's double pack.

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Does that count?

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I mean, yeah.

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Okay.

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That's all I wanted to know.

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That's all I wanted to know.

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Not the Reese's.

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I would say not the Reese's Pieces.

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Not the Reese's Pieces or M&M's.

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I would say if you're saying candy bar.

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Like candy bar.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

::

Yeah.

::

I think I would go with a Crunch Bar.

::

That's fair.

::

That's my favorite.

::

I would go with a Crunch bar

::

or a Snickers.

::

I'm going to take Snickers

::

off the table because, Maggie,

::

I feel like a Snickers is a cheat code.

::

Everybody loves a fucking Snickers bar.

::

I don't know.

::

I could take or leave a Snickers.

::

Really?

::

I don't know.

::

Snickers just feels like the

::

most generic Snickers.

::

candy bar to me like it's

::

just it's it's there and

::

it's fine but it is to me

::

the option you choose last

::

because everybody else

::

wants something else to me

::

whether it's like a milky

::

way a twix um your hundred

::

grands your three

::

musketeers your like your

::

your hershey chocolate bars

::

like it always feels like a

::

second it feels like

::

everybody's backup feels

::

like everybody's second choice to me

::

I don't know.

::

Doug, I don't know if you feel the same.

::

I do because if it's my family,

::

I'm just buying three

::

regular Hershey bars

::

because my kids don't like

::

any fuss or frill with their chocolate.

::

That's all that they care for.

::

Straight chocolate, no almonds,

::

no nothing.

::

Nothing.

::

If there's chocolate, can I have it?

::

Yes, pure, uncut.

::

Give it to me straight.

::

Cocaina.

::

But it's cocoa.

::

It's scarpies with chocolate.

::

Cocaina.

::

That's their approach.

::

Now, for me,

::

if someone's buying me something,

::

like if someone's like, hey,

::

I'm running to the store.

::

I want to grab your candy bar.

::

It's on me.

::

What can I get you?

::

Sure.

::

It's going to take me a minute,

::

but I feel like I'm

::

probably going to go with a

::

Hershey's cookies and cream bar.

::

Really?

::

Specific, and I like it.

::

And I don't know what it is.

::

There's something about

::

those that I don't know if

::

it's the white chocolate

::

with the crunchy pieces on the inside.

::

It takes me to another level.

::

That's for you or for the house?

::

That's for me.

::

For the house,

::

it's a regular Hershey's bar.

::

Or me, if someone's like, hey, it's on me,

::

Doug.

::

What can I get you, Doug Wagner?

::

I'm going to get a... That's

::

what I'm getting.

::

I want to throw one more

::

monkey wrench in here

::

because I feel like dealing

::

with your houses, you know your kids,

::

you know your families.

::

That's true.

::

I imagine when Brian asked the question,

::

I do now.

::

I thought I did.

::

Do I do now?

::

No, that night, you got to understand,

::

I was like,

::

I'm living in a different reality.

::

So I know now.

::

Go ahead, Marcus.

::

No, I just want to know,

::

let's do it to a room of just people,

::

right?

::

We're all going to the same place,

::

but what would we bring like this room?

::

What kind of candy bar would

::

you bring this room full of people?

::

Not your kids.

::

Not anything like that.

::

Just the room.

::

I feel like now I would go

::

Hershey's because of like

::

peanut allergies.

::

I would go straight Hershey's.

::

That's fair.

::

Consider it.

::

That checks most the boxes.

::

I know it's not going to

::

make like everybody screaming happy,

::

but everybody is probably

::

going to get a bite.

::

That's probably what I'm buying a box of.

::

But if it's just me,

::

like I'm getting that dark

::

chocolate Milky Way.

::

That's like the hot.

::

Interesting.

::

Okay.

::

That's the Hershey's Cookies

::

and Cream version for Doug, for me.

::

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

::

If it's a big crowd,

::

I'm probably going the General Hershey's.

::

That's smart.

::

See,

::

and I feel like I would do something

::

different.

::

I would be far more inconsiderate,

::

and I would get probably

::

Reese's for everybody,

::

because fuck that peanut allergy.

::

But I also know, again,

::

that appeals to the masses.

::

It's one of those things,

::

in the same vein of like,

::

most everybody there can

::

have it um and again but if

::

it's if it's kids brian

::

you're probably right like

::

if I'm bringing it to say

::

like I'm responsible for

::

providing a candy based

::

treat right harrison's

::

class of course probably

::

regular straight up

::

chocolate for that exact

::

reason yeah if it's actual

::

adults I'll probably bring

::

the it just changes but

::

yeah it's one of those two

::

depending on the audience

::

That's interesting.

::

I think definitely for me,

::

bring me a crunch.

::

Bring me the crunch.

::

Bring me a bunch of crunch.

::

It doesn't really matter.

::

Be the guy that is supposed

::

to bring candy but brings

::

quarters instead.

::

What?

::

He brings quarters.

::

So they can get their own candy?

::

I guess.

::

I guess.

::

Well,

::

Roman's also saying that he takes a

::

bit of honey over Twix.

::

That's sociopathic behavior.

::

That's a good piece of candy, right?

::

I don't think I've ever had

::

a bit of honey.

::

However, however,

::

if I am trying to have a

::

conversation with myself

::

where I'm trying to justify candy,

::

but I'm trying to be like, well, you know,

::

I'll get this cause it's healthy.

::

Right?

::

Like when you, we all do that.

::

Like, Oh, I'll get a chicken.

::

I'll get a chicken sandwich.

::

Cause it's chicken.

::

Like not realizing that it's

::

deep fried twice.

::

I will get a Pearson's nut

::

roll because the peanuts and I'll be like,

::

cause it's got protein in it.

::

Like that.

::

That's my delusional.

::

Yeah.

::

That's my delusional, like, you know what?

::

I feel like candy.

::

That's a stretch.

::

Oh,

::

it is a sense of delusion that comes

::

from a deep, dark place.

::

Wow, that's incredible.

::

I've never gotten quarters.

::

I've gotten unwrapped candy before.

::

Like, just free-floating...

::

I don't know what Halloween

::

happened to you, but no,

::

I've never got quarters.

::

Like as a kid,

::

my kids have never got quarters.

::

I got stickers once.

::

I got stickers, a pencil.

::

I think I got toothpaste one time.

::

I got a rock.

::

I got a rock.

::

God damn it.

::

All right.

::

Well, that's our cue.

::

That's it.

::

But gentlemen,

::

we have an outstanding game

::

of catch that quotable.

::

Catch that quotable.

::

Silky sounds of the Marcus

::

J. Roman is paying for the

::

Patreon with quarters he got from now.

::

That was trick-or-treat quarters.

::

We get more Patreon members, brother.

::

Trick-or-treat quarters is the AKA.

::

Trick-or-treat quarters is

::

absolutely the AKA.

::

It absolutely is the AKA.

::

Trick-or-treat quarters.

::

I don't think it's been so early.

::

By the way, Brian,

::

is that a diet Sprite in your hand?

::

Yeah, it's a Sprite Zero.

::

Brian,

::

do you understand what you've done

::

to my DNA?

::

I tried that once now,

::

and that's all I can think about.

::

I did not know it left such

::

an impression on you.

::

When did you start drinking

::

that because of Brian?

::

Like, two weeks ago.

::

Like,

::

you just saw him drinking it on the pot?

::

Yes, because I keep seeing the can,

::

and I'm like, God, I want to try that.

::

And then I had it, and I was like,

::

this is so fucking refreshing.

::

Like, I was mad about it.

::

What tastes different about it?

::

I don't know.

::

It's just... It is Sprite.

::

Without the guilt.

::

Yeah, pretty much.

::

You know how a Diet Coke

::

tastes extremely different

::

than a regular Coke?

::

Not in a good way sometimes.

::

It kind of tastes like a virgin cigarette.

::

If it's McDonald's,

::

all bets are off because

::

they've done something to

::

their Diet Coke.

::

I think the one that comes

::

from Sam's Club tastes like

::

a virgin cigarette.

::

It kind of just feels like

::

it doesn't taste like anything.

::

You hit it and you're like,

::

I could not just be smoking this,

::

but I need to smoke something.

::

that is such a specific very

::

experience and taste and I

::

love it I absolutely love

::

it that I've never smoked a

::

cigarette so I wouldn't

::

know what the difference no

::

like no honestly I'm not I

::

mean sprite sponsor us like

::

we'll talk about it more

::

but I will gladly

::

Listen to this episode.

::

Don't go back and listen to the last one.

::

Don't listen to the last one.

::

If you need me to make Bing

::

AI Generator have Big Texas

::

holding a Sprite Zero Sugar,

::

I will gladly put that in the comments.

::

Anyway.

::

But gentlemen,

::

are you ready for this week's quote?

::

Gentlemen, here's the quote.

::

All right, folks, stand back,

::

clear the area.

::

This is a crime scene now.

::

Secure the perimeter, dust for prints,

::

check for fibers, scan for DNA.

::

I want a urine sample from

::

everyone and get me a latte.

::

Don't mix up the two.

::

End quote.

::

What is this?

::

Man, right out of the gate,

::

it feels like Naked Gun.

::

I don't know if it is, but man,

::

it feels like it.

::

I was wondering.

::

I was thinking Will Ferrell.

::

Then I thought animation.

::

Yeah.

::

Naked Gun is really good.

::

It feels like an animation,

::

but the pee joke kind of

::

throws me forward.

::

The DNA, I don't think that's Naked Gun.

::

No.

::

I'm going to read it one more time.

::

I have a couple places where

::

I think it's going,

::

but I'm going to read it one more time.

::

All right, folks, stand back.

::

Clear the area.

::

This is a crime scene now.

::

Secure the perimeter.

::

Dust for prints.

::

Check for fibers.

::

Scan for DNA.

::

I want a urine sample from

::

everyone and get me a latte.

::

Don't mix up the two.

::

Here's my two guesses.

::

This is either the happy time murders,

::

which would have that like

::

that was that murder movie with puppets.

::

And or I feel like this

::

could be boondock saints.

::

Oh, I've never seen boondocks.

::

Oh, man.

::

I feel like this is

::

something Willem Dafoe said.

::

But I don't know.

::

That's just where I'm leaning.

::

Is that a funny movie?

::

No,

::

but Willem Dafoe in that movie has

::

several lines where it's like,

::

is this supposed to be funny?

::

Is it not supposed to be funny?

::

Yeah.

::

He kind of teeters on that funny,

::

insane line.

::

Yeah.

::

I don't know.

::

I don't think it's Boondock.

::

Okay.

::

All right.

::

It feels more light or

::

hearted, light hearted.

::

But I'll be honest with you,

::

I have zero guess.

::

I don't even know where the

::

lights are and we're out of time.

::

Yeah, let's call it.

::

I'll go with the happy time murderers.

::

Brian,

::

you're going to go with the naked gun.

::

I'm still going with the naked gun.

::

I'm going to go with the other guys.

::

Nice.

::

For shits and giggles.

::

Let's do it.

::

Oh, Jesus.

::

We were way off.

::

Way off.

::

Amazing.

::

Way off.

::

You want to give us another shot here?

::

I will give you one more shot.

::

Do you want a hint?

::

Yeah, give me one more.

::

For sure.

::

Oh.

::

Let's put it this way.

::

You were on the right track with animation,

::

and your hint is lizard.

::

Lizard.

::

My stomach is growling.

::

Lizard.

::

That was your stomach?

::

Yeah, that was my stomach.

::

That was loud.

::

I'm hungry.

::

I have not eaten.

::

Also, Roman says water is the hint.

::

Lizard, water.

::

This is going to be something.

::

It's an older movie, isn't it?

::

I don't know.

::

I have no clue what this is.

::

It is not.

::

This is from the 2011 movie Rango.

::

Oh, no shit.

::

That's very niche.

::

That's a movie I have not watched a lot.

::

I only saw half of that and

::

then I fell asleep.

::

So, yep.

::

Got it.

::

Is that Johnny Depp in the movie?

::

I like the animation style of that movie.

::

I do too.

::

I thought it was fun.

::

And it's also just a little bit weird,

::

which I enjoy.

::

That's very much my jam.

::

Well, there we go.

::

Nice job, Roman.

::

That was a deep cut.

::

That sounds like a Johnny Depp line.

::

I can hear it now.

::

Yeah, the way he says it.

::

Oh, yeah.

::

Gentlemen,

::

anything before we get into

::

before we get into Godzilla minus one,

::

anything that you all want

::

to plug or not plug any

::

news that you have?

::

Sorry.

::

There's a lot of just random

::

news out there.

::

Jordan Peele announced his new movie date.

::

Yep.

::

Was it 10-23-26?

::

Yeah,

::

you can go ahead and take that one then.

::

Literally, that's it.

::

He announced... He released

::

an image of a screen,

::

and it's just 10-23-26,

::

and that's his next movie date.

::

So there's really not much

::

else there to it.

::

All right.

::

That's fine.

::

There you go.

::

Great.

::

Look at that.

::

We got one.

::

I mean, I feel...

::

What was that?

::

We got one.

::

I don't know.

::

It's a lot of random stuff.

::

Marvel Comics unveiled their new logo,

::

which some people are upset about,

::

and it resembles the movie studio's logo.

::

It's basically the same thing,

::

and you can tell that

::

they're just trying to make

::

everything cohesive.

::

Yeah, it's nothing crazy.

::

This is like, I mean,

::

this is like the most

::

no-brainer logo I've seen in a while.

::

I mean,

::

it's the red Marvel as you know it.

::

White words on a red

::

background and then the bars...

::

with comics in between all one line.

::

That makes a ton of sense.

::

I really don't care or mind that.

::

I don't think I care enough to mind it.

::

I know what they're trying to do.

::

This is a part of their...

::

Marvel's in an overhaul, right?

::

So ever since they've told them, like,

::

stop putting out so much

::

shit and kind of be, like, more whatever,

::

they're, like,

::

trying to make everything cohesive,

::

and they're trying to make

::

everything feel Marvel-branded.

::

So, I mean, I get it.

::

Yeah.

::

Okay, makes sense.

::

I do have a rant.

::

I have two things.

::

Give us your rant.

::

Not, like, a real crazy rant.

::

Make one up.

::

Give me your rant.

::

Oh, I can give you some fake news.

::

Um...

::

um number one james gunn

::

just super excited about

::

superman um superman I

::

think it's just called

::

superman now I don't think

::

he's called superman legacy

::

um but I'm really excited

::

for his movie he just keeps

::

posting um things about

::

different characters from

::

the movies you can tell

::

this guy seems to be either

::

he's faking it or he's just

::

a really good like really

::

good faker or he's a fan of

::

comic books right not just

::

superman but like hawk girl

::

he made a post about

::

her first appearance yesterday.

::

He did the same thing for

::

Superman Day and on the

::

birthday of Superman when it was created.

::

And he posted a set photo of

::

Chris Pratt and some

::

friends coming to visit him

::

on the Superman set.

::

And so it's really dope to

::

see him love and care for

::

these characters.

::

I've been re-watching Young

::

Justice and I... Let me

::

tell you something.

::

This is not my rant.

::

Let me tell you who's a bad

::

motherfucker who needs I

::

think a villain that

::

is underused in real live action.

::

It's Vandal Savage.

::

Can I quickly, quickly,

::

quickly just explain the

::

season of Young Justice

::

that I'm on and why it's so

::

fucking badass.

::

There you go.

::

There's Young Justice.

::

Vandal Savage is an is an immortal,

::

like mortal, essentially.

::

Right.

::

He's like he's considered in

::

this season the very first metahuman.

::

OK, a lot of people.

::

This is a side note.

::

A lot of people compare the

::

Justice League to the Avengers.

::

And I think the way that

::

they go about the metagene,

::

they should honestly be

::

comparing Justice League or

::

this if they go about it

::

the right way to X-Men.

::

because they they push them

::

the same way the the x the

::

x gene and then the meta

::

gene which gives them their

::

superhuman abilities right

::

so that's how they

::

basically go about this

::

vandal savage is the first

::

okay he was a caveman a

::

meteor came through the sky

::

and it made him immortal he

::

couldn't die but he was

::

fighting like a fucking

::

bear when he was like doing

::

it and so he's a fucking badass right

::

And so he's big on conquering.

::

That's like who the fuck he is.

::

He wants to conquer.

::

He wants to learn and where

::

like you don't waste death

::

because death is wasteful

::

because it's it defeats the

::

purpose of when you if somebody is alive,

::

it gives them greater

::

purpose to follow me into

::

our greater purpose.

::

That's his ideology.

::

Right.

::

I'm not going to kill you

::

when you have so much

::

potential for you to follow

::

me into our greater purpose.

::

He's such a bad motherfucker on Earth.

::

Dark side comes down to take over.

::

Right.

::

Back way, way, way back in the day.

::

He goes back and forth

::

because in this iteration,

::

he's now like Genghis Kong

::

in this part of history.

::

It's like Vandal Savage is Genghis Kong.

::

So these famous people that

::

we know of as conquerors

::

and warriors and all that shit,

::

they really are just saying

::

that that was Vandal Savage

::

in these different times.

::

Right.

::

Bad motherfucker come down.

::

This bad motherfucker stands

::

up against him with his two

::

famous meta sons that have

::

superpowers and shit.

::

They come to an agreement of like, listen,

::

dog, here's the final story.

::

It's going to be Earth

::

versus Apocalypse in the final jam.

::

You're going to do

::

everything you need to do.

::

I'm going to conquer this.

::

And we're going to come to

::

an agreement that in order

::

to make it us versus us, us two,

::

We got to push everybody else.

::

We're going to do for each other.

::

We're going to have each

::

other's back so we can make

::

it a fair fight at the end of the day.

::

So it's going to be Doomsday

::

versus Vandal Savage.

::

Which means Vandal Savage

::

started this org called The Light.

::

And The Light is in control

::

of everything on Earth to

::

make sure everything is in

::

motion because Earth is

::

considered his property.

::

It belongs to Vandal Savage

::

and it's his investment

::

because he treats the

::

entire Earth so he partners

::

with Lex and he partners

::

with all these guys.

::

Really dope idea to have of

::

Superman isn't your biggest,

::

biggest character because

::

Superman is a part of this

::

whole thing that Vandal

::

Savage got going on.

::

Anyway,

::

I think he should be used as a villain.

::

That's all I had to say about that.

::

Really excited about it.

::

Hope we see that in the future.

::

Here's my rant, just real quickly.

::

You motherfuckers in this Blade movie.

::

Blade lost another director.

::

This movie is not happening.

::

Mahershala Ali signed his deal in 2019,

::

according to his lawyer.

::

Or his agent manager.

::

Five years ago.

::

And this was in a THR article.

::

And they said they've never

::

seen anything like this before.

::

Where you sign a deal in

::

2019 and it's 2024 and

::

you've lost at least three directors.

::

Yep.

::

and had this movie rewritten

::

so many times.

::

Now, Marvel's excuse is, well,

::

now that we're not under

::

the pressure to constantly put stuff out,

::

we want to make sure that

::

we get this right.

::

I understand that.

::

But also,

::

this motherfucker ain't getting

::

no younger.

::

You got him holding up and waiting.

::

I'm sure Marvel's calendar

::

and schedule is like, hold on,

::

put a pause on that because

::

you'll never know when

::

we're going to shoot.

::

You got him stopping and

::

missing out on fucking deals.

::

Can we do something?

::

Just do something.

::

That's it.

::

That's all I'm saying.

::

Do something or get off the fucking pot.

::

I agree with you 100%.

::

Kevin Feige does a lot of things right,

::

but man,

::

this has got to be one of the

::

biggest missteps in Marvel's history.

::

And I know that sounds hyperbolic,

::

but you have talent like Marshala Ali

::

you sign them in 2019.

::

And you can't figure something out.

::

I mean,

::

even now as we record this in June

::

of 2024.

::

Absolutely bonkers.

::

I can't think of another

::

actor that's even stayed

::

around that long for a

::

project unless it's like,

::

unless Marshal Ali signed

::

something that is ironclad with Marvel,

::

which is totally possible

::

that he can't talk about but

::

Man, it doesn't need to be like this.

::

I hope they figure it out.

::

No!

::

Yeah.

::

Also,

::

Wesley Snipes is commenting on this

::

whole thing.

::

Of course he is.

::

He tweeted today, he said, quote, Blade...

::

Lordy, lordy, lordy, lordy, lordy.

::

Alongside the side eye roll emoji.

::

Folks still looking for

::

secret sauce riding

::

snowmobiles in traffic.

::

Kinda rough.

::

Daywalkers made it look easy, don't they?

::

Snowmobiles in traffic.

::

My favorite line is,

::

daywalkers make it look easy, don't they?

::

What?

::

Man.

::

Anyway,

::

you know what's bad when Wesley

::

Snipes is like,

::

what the fuck are you doing?

::

Man,

::

Wesley Snipes dunking on you on Twitter.

::

Because it's not that hard.

::

No, it's not.

::

They've made it very easy to

::

get dunked on.

::

I will say this, though.

::

Blade is a very good movie,

::

and if you don't...

::

That original still stands

::

the test of time.

::

So I understand you want to

::

get that shit right.

::

I mean, I know everybody... Look,

::

I know that's exactly what

::

I was going to say.

::

I know everybody has their

::

various feelings about the

::

other two movies that were made,

::

and it's fine, but as a whole,

::

those three movies...

::

are amazing and so I get you

::

want to get it right but

::

like the idea that the

::

eternals teased blade with

::

the black knight at the

::

very end and you're like oh

::

clearly this is what's

::

happening next like we're

::

gonna have the sword bros

::

go do mystical stuff and

::

then to just never come

::

back to it like it has been

::

three years now since the

::

eternals and arashim took everybody and

::

We have no idea what's happening there.

::

Yeah,

::

actually we don't about none of that.

::

Harry Styles showed up as

::

Star Fox for Pete's sake.

::

Nobody knows.

::

That fucking Celestial is

::

just in the ocean and no

::

one's seen it and or talked about it.

::

Nope.

::

She-Hulk made a mention of

::

it in a newspaper.

::

Which is the only

::

acknowledgement it's gotten.

::

It is.

::

It is absolutely wild.

::

Yeah.

::

Gentlemen,

::

shall we pivot on over to

::

Godzilla minus one?

::

Pivot outstanding.

::

Who wants to give us a

::

barbershop synopsis for

::

Godzilla minus one?

::

Honestly,

::

I think Doug has been talking

::

about this movie for a long time.

::

I think you should give the

::

barbershop synopsis.

::

Okay, I will.

::

do that so this so what had

::

happened was so you got

::

this soldier who is

::

supposed to be a he's

::

supposed to be a kamikaze

::

pilot and he does not want

::

to die because his parents

::

told him that he the one

::

thing that his parents said

::

when he left for war is

::

just get home like whatever

::

it is just come home

::

So rather than go out and

::

fulfill his kamikaze mission,

::

he lands on this island

::

that's supposed to be a

::

like a repair shop for

::

kamikaze pilots to

::

basically fix their planes.

::

They can go fulfill their mission.

::

Cool.

::

So he lands and he lands and

::

they start working on his

::

plane and they kind of

::

figure out like there's

::

really nothing wrong with your plane.

::

So anyway,

::

so he hangs out there overnight at night.

::

They get attacked.

::

by essentially Godzilla, but very,

::

very small, like a smaller version,

::

essentially the dinosaur

::

version of Godzilla.

::

Basically, he freezes up, can't shoot him.

::

He's like, if I shoot it,

::

it's going to make it more mad,

::

and it's just going to be worse.

::

So anyway,

::

everybody dies except for the

::

one mechanic and Shikishima,

::

which is the name of the

::

main guy who was trying to

::

avoid being a kamikaze pilot.

::

Anyway, cool.

::

He goes back home.

::

He's kind of goes back home in disgrace.

::

And so and then he sort of

::

meets this woman named Noriko,

::

who has this this girl that she's adopted,

::

like really not even adopted.

::

Someone gave it to her

::

because they are living in

::

a portion of Tokyo that has

::

been destroyed postwar.

::

So this takes place like 1946,

::

like right after that.

::

And they cut to this pretty

::

significant event where the U.S.

::

government tests another

::

nuclear bomb in the atoll in the Pacific.

::

Operation Crossroads.

::

Thank you, Brian.

::

Operation Crossroads.

::

And essentially,

::

this hits dinosaur version

::

of Godzilla and makes him

::

ten times larger and makes

::

him sort of the menacing

::

kaiju that he has.

::

And...

::

The only person who has any

::

experience with him is Shikishima,

::

who they and there's some

::

geopolitical stuff in here, too,

::

that gets sort of like intertwined.

::

Long story short is he gets

::

sort of looped in.

::

This becomes sort of like a

::

mission of vengeance

::

between him and Godzilla.

::

He's trying to make up for

::

the fact that all of these

::

people died on Oro Island.

::

Whereas where they were doing the repairs,

::

but he's also balancing this idea of like,

::

he's a dad, he has responsibilities.

::

So like,

::

it's sort of a big balance and a

::

big tug of war between

::

doing what's right.

::

This hero's journey of

::

redemption all centered around Godzilla.

::

Like,

::

and so that is without giving

::

anything away.

::

That is the best synopsis

::

that I can give you.

::

There's a lot other stuff that happens,

::

but in the interest of not

::

spoiling anything, that is pretty,

::

pretty good in there.

::

That's not bad.

::

That's actually really good.

::

That's a good synopsis.

::

You filled in some holes for

::

me because I'll tell you what.

::

I feel like, Doug,

::

do you like this because

::

you love history?

::

Um...

::

I really like this movie

::

because it was... I grew up

::

watching Godzilla.

::

And this was just such a...

::

It did all the things that

::

I really loved about Godzilla movies.

::

But it put such a humanistic

::

take on the storyline.

::

Because to be honest with you,

::

when you watch...

::

You literally have a spoiler

::

alert on the border.

::

Go ahead.

::

Don't worry.

::

I'm not.

::

I'm not.

::

I refuse.

::

We might talk about it,

::

but it's going to be accidental spoilers.

::

What?

::

I refuse.

::

I have to try this Sprite Zero.

::

I'm sorry.

::

See?

::

See?

::

You see what he's done?

::

I feel like I need to

::

like... He's like fucking posing.

::

He's like, this is so refreshing.

::

Yeah,

::

it was a side profile with the can

::

was like perfectly like...

::

He's like holding it up like this.

::

Yeah, like what's happening?

::

Like what?

::

I don't know what's happening.

::

Anyway,

::

but what I liked about this movie

::

is it did such a good job

::

of the human element in the

::

human story throughout.

::

Because let's be honest,

::

the Godzilla of the 1970s,

::

to quote Harrison, it's silly Godzilla.

::

It's a guy in a suit fighting dinosaurs.

::

The human stories are...

::

bonkers like they are out

::

there and so the the

::

closest thing that we ever

::

got to it was 2014's uh

::

warner brothers god's

::

legendary pictures and that

::

had a very strong human

::

element yes and then they

::

went and they made this

::

whole like monster verse

::

and to get back to that and

::

then also to get this back

::

to like it's a japanese

::

production and to see that side of it

::

is so, so cool.

::

And so I just,

::

I appreciate it of what it was.

::

It was like an homage to the old school,

::

like very first 1954 Godzilla movie.

::

And the other thing that's

::

really great is it did really well.

::

I mean, this budget, it had a bus budget,

::

according to IMDb,

::

a budget of $15 million.

::

No way.

::

It's gross worldwide is $115 million.

::

Wow.

::

No,

::

50 million and though that Godzilla

::

looked so good.

::

Brian,

::

I will work the rest of my time

::

while you talk about those effects.

::

I will find a corroborating source.

::

No, I believe you.

::

It's bonkers to me because...

::

I mean,

::

for people that like that are not

::

that have not watched this movie,

::

they the there's a sequence

::

that starts off.

::

And if you're familiar with CGI,

::

you're like, OK,

::

you're going to put it in

::

smoke and darkness and

::

we're not going to be able

::

to see the monster.

::

And like they kind of do

::

that for the first sequence.

::

But there's a sequence in

::

the middle of the movie

::

where it goes to another

::

Japanese city that is not not not Tokyo.

::

I can't remember the name of it right now.

::

and like in the middle of

::

the movie in broad daylight

::

is cgi godzilla and it

::

looks exceptional it looks

::

phenomenal it looks it

::

looks like what godzilla

::

would look like in a city

::

in the daylight and I i was

::

shocked I was like you're

::

not even trying to hide

::

you're not even trying to

::

morbius this of like oh

::

it's in the dark you can't

::

see stuff no it's standing

::

on its own right there

::

And they made that with $15 million.

::

Brian,

::

so the budget is between $10 and $15.

::

According to British GQ,

::

British GQ cites it as $10 million.

::

IGN cites it as $15 million.

::

So the reality is it's

::

somewhere in between there.

::

That's still impressive.

::

It's so impressive,

::

especially I know I'm picking on Morbius,

::

but look at like you look

::

at anything else,

::

even that Marvel puts out,

::

they're still doing a lot

::

of those traditional tricks

::

to kind of obscure some of the CGI.

::

But man, they did it.

::

I mean,

::

they did this in a cave with scraps

::

with 15 million dollars.

::

Yes, that is the brand.

::

That quote is the best way to put that.

::

Tony,

::

Tony did this in a studio with scraps

::

like this.

::

I'm blown away.

::

Absolutely blown away.

::

Even the initial,

::

so the two scenes that got

::

me with the graphics was

::

three, but I'm counting the one together.

::

One, the first shot,

::

when they first show

::

Godzilla on the island,

::

the original island,

::

and they put the spotlight

::

on him and he rushes the tower.

::

I was like, oh shit,

::

this motherfucker can move.

::

I'd hate to see that bitch

::

in a dark alley.

::

Then the other one was when

::

they're in the water and

::

his face in the water,

::

but then when he's healing

::

and regenerating, I was like, oh fuck,

::

that looks...

::

really good even near the

::

end when they do that again

::

or they hint at that at the end.

::

I was like, damn,

::

that's really good graphics

::

in broad daylight too.

::

Not no nighttime shit.

::

So for perspective, Godzilla vs. Kong,

::

the new empire, the movie,

::

the one that Warner Brothers did,

::

that had a budget of $135 million.

::

And it only made $567 million.

::

Wow.

::

worldwide total so if you

::

put that in perspective

::

this movie did less spent

::

less and did better in

::

terms of net revenue growth

::

like net revenue gain as a

::

percentage it knocked it out of the water

::

What was the other Godzilla

::

movie that came out at the

::

same time as this?

::

Simultaneously,

::

it was kind of weird

::

because it was the first time.

::

Was that it?

::

And then Apple also did a

::

series called Godzilla

::

Monarch Legacy or something like that.

::

And that one is a little bit different.

::

That one is good,

::

but it's good for different reasons.

::

Yeah.

::

That one is like, hey,

::

do you like all the

::

monsters that you don't

::

know about but they're

::

kaiju and you might like them a lot?

::

Then you should watch that.

::

Godzilla shows up for like

::

six seconds and the rest of

::

it is all the other monsters.

::

It's actually kind of neat.

::

Gentlemen,

::

other things that you all like

::

about this particular movie?

::

I mean, it told a good story.

::

I think your lead character, what was the,

::

I'm sorry, what was his,

::

what was the name of the lead?

::

I have a character.

::

Oh, go ahead, Doug.

::

Oh, Brian, please.

::

I wanted to double check because I think,

::

I wasn't sure if this was

::

the same name you had, Doug.

::

I had Kochi.

::

That's what I see.

::

As the lead?

::

Yeah.

::

Shikishima is what I had.

::

That's the last name.

::

We're on the same page now.

::

That's the last name.

::

Because in Japan,

::

they call you by your last name first,

::

so when they were calling him,

::

they would see it.

::

I see this movie both with an English dub,

::

and then I saw this in the

::

theater in straight-up Japanese.

::

Oh, did you?

::

I watched it in Japanese, yeah.

::

Where did you watch it in Japanese?

::

Brian or me?

::

brian I i watched it on

::

netflix um with japanese

::

with like english subtitles

::

oh that's an option I want

::

to watch that instead of

::

watching the damn day

::

honestly I started it up

::

and like it was the it was

::

the dove and it like it was

::

like hello sir good to see

::

you and I was like I'm I'm

::

gonna throw something like

::

I can't do it and I i

::

messed around like I went

::

down to the audio options

::

and there was that that was there

::

So, Shikishima.

::

Alright, good.

::

I just wanted us to get on the same page.

::

Because I was like... Can you watch it?

::

We have a comment about,

::

can you watch it in German?

::

I'm sure you could.

::

If it's a Netflix setting,

::

I'm sure you could.

::

You want to test your limits?

::

Go for it.

::

It's your world, Squirrel.

::

You're dealing with a bunch

::

of multiple different... Anyway,

::

I feel like the lead... I

::

feel like the lead...

::

in the movie is really good.

::

I think when you talk about

::

humanizing a character,

::

I love this idea of this

::

guy's considered a coward.

::

When he comes back to his hometown,

::

when he comes back,

::

anytime he mentions that

::

he's a kamikaze pilot,

::

everybody already knew what

::

the fuck he did.

::

They was like, oh,

::

you're the one that fucking ran away.

::

Even when he was on the

::

island and even when he

::

tried to fake the life and

::

take the pictures from the

::

guys that were on the island and kind of

::

I guess live it as it was his own.

::

I guess trying to outrun

::

that guilt of being a coward.

::

He doesn't only show that

::

kind of cowardice.

::

Some may say cowardice.

::

I'm sure there's another word for it.

::

He does that multiple times.

::

It happens on multiple occasions.

::

He does it with the kamikaze.

::

he does it as a pilot

::

landing on the island he

::

does it when he's supposed

::

to shoot godzilla in the

::

face and he doesn't yeah

::

you're right then he does

::

it one more time before the

::

end he's willing to

::

essentially live he like he

::

he goes into it like oh I'm

::

gonna go you know kill

::

myself I'm gonna put the

::

bomb inside the plane and

::

then fly into godzilla and

::

then that's how we're gonna

::

get it done but he I think

::

he does it one more time

::

where he does something he's

::

supposed he doesn't do

::

something he's supposed to

::

do or whatever the case it

::

may be and people die on

::

his behalf and then like he

::

gets his redemption art

::

well and you see this like

::

he has the same like level

::

of fear and trepidation

::

with being responsible for

::

oriko and their and their

::

and their and the little

::

girl of this like this level of

::

I'm I'm filled with shame

::

for myself so how can

::

anyone possibly want me to

::

be a part of their life

::

like yeah I my parents died

::

because I wasn't here to

::

protect them I didn't even

::

follow through on the

::

mission that I was being

::

you know what I joined the

::

army to like to do and then

::

on top of that I'm now

::

responsible for these two

::

people and one of them

::

according if you like read

::

into the dialogue,

::

they've had a conversation

::

about getting married.

::

And he said, that's not what I want.

::

Yeah.

::

And so there's this whole like complex.

::

And that's the other part of it.

::

I think is that there's such

::

a psychological element to it as well.

::

Like there's such a,

::

That character study of

::

dealing with guilt and how

::

that plays out in one's life.

::

And then you fucking had a

::

giant dinosaur in it at the same time.

::

That was what I... You got

::

such a humanistic story

::

with someone who glows blue

::

and literally fires a nuclear bomb.

::

I do love the way that they fired it.

::

Oh, I thought that was so cool.

::

that was I mean the just the

::

purpose the purpose of

::

everything in this movie is

::

pretty well done and I

::

think that's something that

::

stands out with it and it

::

does remind me of godzilla

::

2014 a little bit of like

::

no there's a reason there's

::

a reason we're doing this

::

and why godzilla is the

::

backdrop because right you

::

can paint a lot of things

::

onto godzilla you can paint

::

The United States and their

::

intervention and nuclear weapons.

::

There's an entire metaphor for that.

::

There's an environmentalist

::

perspective with Godzilla.

::

There's a

::

I mean, there's just straight up like, oh,

::

you want to see a monster?

::

Like perspective of Godzilla.

::

Like you can paint a lot of stuff onto it.

::

And I think the thing that

::

made this movie so

::

effective was that it was

::

so intentional with how it

::

used Godzilla that it didn't,

::

it wasn't like a shock and it wasn't like,

::

oh, Godzilla's here.

::

It was just more like, oh no,

::

like this bad thing is

::

happening and it happens to be a monster.

::

If that makes any sense,

::

like it was almost like a disaster movie.

::

set in the 1940s except the

::

disaster was a giant

::

dinosaur and not an

::

earthquake or whatever it might be.

::

And I appreciate that intentionality.

::

Yeah, and to boost your point, Brian,

::

he can run from everything else,

::

but he cannot run from the giant lizard.

::

Yes.

::

They are going to have to

::

deal with the giant.

::

Okay,

::

Roman keeps correcting us in saying

::

iguana.

::

The only reason why we say

::

dinosaur is because they

::

say it in the movie.

::

It is true.

::

They say it was a giant dinosaur.

::

You're not wrong.

::

Yeah.

::

In the 90s version of in the

::

1990s version with Matthew

::

Broderick is rumored to be a iguana.

::

But in this one,

::

they call him a dinosaur

::

like to his face to do his

::

face with 10 toes on the ground.

::

So like.

::

Brian, he can't run from that.

::

And so it's sort of like, okay,

::

you don't have any choice.

::

He can't run.

::

There's no out.

::

What are you going to do here?

::

Because that lizard is

::

literally destroying your

::

town and killed the only

::

person who cared about you

::

and you cared about.

::

And so how are you going to

::

respond to that?

::

I'm going to consider you

::

the expert in this movie

::

because you watched it multiple times.

::

Can you explain to me?

::

I'll use the word coward.

::

You used the word.

::

What was the word you used?

::

You said that I said that he

::

was he showed cowardice.

::

You said that he.

::

The description says he

::

wanted redemption in the

::

movie description.

::

I did not read that as that.

::

I read that as more during

::

the entire movie he was

::

running until he was forced

::

to face what he wanted.

::

Not that he was necessarily

::

seeking redemption through Godzilla.

::

You said a different word

::

when you were describing it

::

of like he... Like vengeance?

::

It wasn't vengeance.

::

Was it revenge?

::

Like, I mean, I don't know.

::

If you can remember it, go ahead.

::

Yeah,

::

how do you... I guess I'm using the

::

word cowardice.

::

You see this in a completely

::

different light, okay?

::

I don't even know what I'm asking.

::

No, no, you're not wrong.

::

I do see it in a different light.

::

And here's the reason why.

::

And I think it's because

::

this movie makes you...

::

Kind of puts it in the

::

perspective of... Because I

::

did say there's some geopolitical stuff.

::

There's some rage against the state stuff.

::

Because that's prevalent throughout.

::

And that's the reason why

::

I'm willing to say it's not cowardice.

::

Because...

::

The way the Japanese

::

government is portrayed in

::

this movie is they are

::

portrayed like they have

::

absolutely no idea what they're doing.

::

And all of their people

::

suffer as a result.

::

They talk about it on the boat.

::

Like right before they get on the boat,

::

the captain says like, geez,

::

like eating like this

::

government will never be

::

able to fix itself.

::

I only hope that something

::

can make it fix itself,

::

which is like an ominous

::

foreboding for Godzilla.

::

Right.

::

It's an ominous foreboding.

::

And so you're not wrong, though,

::

in terms of this.

::

I mean, he joined the army.

::

Everybody,

::

every other kamikaze pilot flew

::

their plane into where they

::

were supposed to fly their plane.

::

Some could see it as cowardice,

::

which is the description

::

saying he's looking for redemption.

::

Again, not wrong.

::

His parents died.

::

He didn't fulfill his mission.

::

He's not owning up to his

::

responsibilities as a parent.

::

Where I see that this is

::

also complicated is,

::

in the at the end there's

::

this whole thing where his

::

four friends are like if

::

you fly your plane into

::

Godzilla's mouth you are

::

still a coward because you

::

are not taking

::

responsibility for this for

::

your family and you're

::

leaving your daughter

::

parentless so like that's

::

where for me it's like it's

::

shift and becomes like

::

that's where the layers are

::

there for me a little bit

::

more and why I enjoyed it a lot

::

I have another question.

::

I've kind of figured out

::

what I wanted to ask.

::

With that, what you just said to me,

::

that whole... Now, obviously,

::

this is a movie and history

::

is history and real life is real life.

::

I understand that.

::

So this is just for the sake

::

of discussion.

::

How do you define the

::

difference between him

::

leaving his family and

::

being a kamikaze pilot if

::

he was to fly and complete

::

that mission versus,

::

because that was where the

::

friends kind of,

::

I understood where the

::

friends were coming from.

::

You got this kid who's calling you daddy.

::

You told the kid, I am not your father.

::

Okay?

::

The young lady, that was tough.

::

That was tough for me.

::

Because I was like, ooh,

::

you told that kid to, like, the kid.

::

To their face.

::

To their face.

::

I am not your dad.

::

Do not call me that.

::

Family is not coming back.

::

Right.

::

Which is like,

::

that's just a whole nother thing.

::

Then the woman that loves you,

::

which is obvious as day.

::

Right.

::

From the moment,

::

which another thing that I

::

love was the relationships

::

that they built,

::

because you could tell from

::

the very first interaction,

::

she won't go nowhere.

::

It wasn't like a lingering

::

person that was just using

::

you for whatever.

::

She saw how sweet he was

::

because he didn't turn them away when,

::

or he was like,

::

I can't just leave this baby out there.

::

Like,

::

why would I just leave this baby out

::

there?

::

And she saw something in that.

::

I love that.

::

From that moment, she was locked in.

::

Yep.

::

Is there a difference to you both?

::

And if there's not, that's fine.

::

We can move the fuck on.

::

But him going and going to Godzilla,

::

right?

::

And them telling him, hey, brother,

::

you're still a coward if

::

you do that and you kill

::

yourself like this,

::

knowing that you have a family.

::

But he was going to be a

::

kamikaze pilot and still left his family.

::

And they turned on him and

::

considered him a coward.

::

That seems like a lose-lose

::

at its most surface level.

::

Not the...

::

complex level like layered

::

levels does that make sense

::

it does yeah I have a

::

thought it does I think the

::

difference is is that I

::

think that that that moment

::

at the end where he flew

::

the plane in and he had and

::

he pulled the ejection seat

::

I think that that was like

::

the full circle moment of

::

like yes I'm doing this

::

because the way I want to

::

do it not because the like

::

the the machine has

::

convinced me that that's

::

the only way that I can

::

have okay got it got it got it

::

Because when he's a kamikaze

::

pilot – You're doing it for

::

two different reasons.

::

The reason why he's a

::

kamikaze pilot is because

::

everybody's like,

::

that's the – if you go out on top,

::

that is the best way you can go out.

::

That's why people are so

::

shocked that he's back.

::

They're like, what are you doing here?

::

That's why they're like, exactly.

::

It's a very high honor to die that way.

::

And so that's why when he's at the end,

::

he's like, I don't have to die to,

::

to fulfill my mission and

::

to save my family and do the right thing.

::

I can eject and we can, it's a win-win.

::

So I think that that's,

::

that's the way that I saw it for sure.

::

Yeah.

::

Thank you.

::

I think one of the other

::

things that they don't

::

explicitly communicate in the movie,

::

which I think is a credit to the movie,

::

is that I think it's Sosaku, the mechanic,

::

that they track down at the end.

::

He was great.

::

He was phenomenal.

::

He was a really good actor.

::

In a role that you could overact,

::

he was suitably restrained

::

for how angry he was that

::

he felt that Shikishima

::

basically killed his entire unit.

::

And I think one of the

::

things that I enjoyed about

::

that was that you have...

::

Shikishima carrying this

::

shame and guilt through the

::

entire movie he's having

::

PTSD about it and then

::

Godzilla comes at this at

::

this moment and he's like

::

oh it can all be solved

::

like this one thing can

::

solve everything and if I

::

track down this mechanic

::

who I know I can make it

::

all right like this idea

::

that if you just do this

::

one thing everything's

::

gonna be fine and like

::

In real life, that's not the case.

::

Like,

::

you can't just do one thing to fix

::

everything.

::

And I thought this movie did

::

a really subtle way of

::

showing that by maybe it wasn't subtle.

::

Maybe I'll take that back.

::

But it was understated when

::

they show that flashback

::

right before he flies into

::

Godzilla's mouth and the mechanics like,

::

anyway, here's an eject button like.

::

even even even the mechanic

::

Toshibana I think was the

::

last name here even

::

Toshibana is like yeah like

::

just live your life man

::

like I was angry at you but

::

like live live your life

::

like let's let's move on

::

like in this kind of sense

::

of like it's changed like

::

this time has changed us

::

and changed what we value

::

and I think even the boat

::

crew kind of get in on that

::

too as they talk about the

::

japanese government not

::

sharing information not

::

deploying resources

::

effectively like for what

::

purpose right why are they

::

putting them out on a small

::

fucking wooden boat like a

::

mind-sweeping wooden boat

::

and they're like that's

::

what the doctor's like yeah

::

I think they want us to

::

like slow the monster down and then

::

That's what the captain's like,

::

this fucking government.

::

It's so well done.

::

I love that moment.

::

And Brian, to your point,

::

it is such a fine moment to be like,

::

my parents wanted me to live,

::

my four friends want me to live,

::

and even this mechanic,

::

who I thought would want me

::

more than anyone else to die, is like,

::

Pretty much.

::

You should live to like that

::

is such a like trying to

::

fight and buck against that, like, like,

::

you know,

::

not valuing life and losing that

::

identity and that value for

::

life in such a bigger like

::

cog in a machine type environment.

::

yeah yeah I mean I think

::

that's a great question

::

Marcus because I feel like

::

that moment is like the

::

linchpin for the whole

::

movie and it wasn't it

::

wasn't some big monologue

::

it was like anyway here's

::

this button and then cut

::

back to Godzilla which I

::

just thought I just thought

::

that was really well done

::

and an efficient use of

::

storytelling yeah um

::

yeah no I also love that

::

shot I mean I love the shot

::

of the plane flying into

::

godzilla's mouth because

::

yes it feels realistic you

::

have a it's not like one of

::

those I'm gonna take my

::

plane and godzilla's so big

::

to make my plane look small

::

that I'm inside of his

::

stomach and I'm flying

::

around inside of it no it

::

was like no plane meet

::

godzilla's throat and like

::

right it was yeah crash

::

like that was it I thought

::

that was pretty fire

::

The other point where I

::

thought that where I knew

::

that this movie had me is

::

this movie had me here.

::

Oh, yeah.

::

In the water with the little boat.

::

Yeah, this is a good scene.

::

Midday.

::

This is where this movie had me.

::

It's a detail.

::

When I saw this in the theater, I went,

::

is that a practical effect?

::

Did they like build like a

::

puppet Godzilla and push it?

::

Like how the fuck did they, like it,

::

it genuinely left me leaving the theater.

::

And even when I saw it again

::

on my screen at home, I went,

::

how the fuck did they do that?

::

Like,

::

because remember the budget was $10

::

million.

::

Even Godzilla's.

::

So here's the thing about this Godzilla,

::

right?

::

His eyes.

::

Yes.

::

This motherfucker don't give

::

a damn about nothing.

::

No.

::

He is just there.

::

The other Godzilla's,

::

the way that they make them seem,

::

which I think I love how

::

they handle Godzilla, right?

::

There's so many iterations of it,

::

and you can pick your favorite.

::

There's animated.

::

There's this one.

::

There's the movies.

::

There's the goofy buddy cop

::

Godzilla gorilla movie.

::

Whatever that is.

::

Funny Godzilla.

::

Yeah, funny Godzilla.

::

But, like,

::

this motherfucker meant destruction.

::

He's stepping on people.

::

The funny scene to me was

::

the news reporters as

::

they're reporting that Godzilla is coming,

::

right?

::

And they're like,

::

he looks like to be headed this way.

::

Is this our final moment?

::

Is this what's going on?

::

And he just knocks the

::

fucking building down.

::

I love that about this.

::

Yup.

::

Yeah.

::

Those eyes are just like...

::

Those eyes are like, holy shit.

::

Like...

::

does not give a shit at all.

::

Roman said they had the real

::

Godzilla portray himself.

::

He has a producer credit.

::

Good for him.

::

He's been overlooked a lot.

::

I'm glad he got that EP.

::

I agree, Doug.

::

I actually forgot about that sequence.

::

I'm really happy you showed

::

that picture because I was

::

thinking of the downtown explosion.

::

That midday shot when

::

they're on the minesweeper boat.

::

I was enamored.

::

I couldn't stop looking at

::

the detailing of Godzilla and being like,

::

is this like a Jurassic Park situation?

::

Did you use both CG and practical?

::

Is it... I just... He looks...

::

he looks deranged.

::

Yeah.

::

Like, yeah, the best way possible.

::

Um,

::

and I think that was such a good

::

creative choice.

::

Cause like the Godzilla's we have now,

::

it's like,

::

there's kind of some sentience

::

there and it kind of just

::

reminds me of a little bit too sexy.

::

I don't know.

::

It kind of reminds me of a dog.

::

Like, like,

::

which is fine for those movies.

::

I'm not bashing those movies,

::

but like Godzilla dog is like,

::

It's kind of friendly, it's kind of mean,

::

whatever.

::

You can understand its motivations, right?

::

The thing that's so awesome

::

about this Godzilla is it's like, oh no,

::

he's on the same mission of

::

vengeance as anybody else,

::

and he's doing exactly what

::

animals thought.

::

He was like, they blew up my island,

::

they tried to kill me,

::

so now I'm going to go fuck them up.

::

That is literally that thing's motivation.

::

Animal instinct.

::

is, oh, you attack me?

::

Well, I'm bigger and better.

::

I'm going to go mess you up.

::

And the best part is,

::

it's how this movie ends,

::

is just like Shikishima's

::

mission wasn't over, Godzilla's isn't.

::

And I always...

::

I love when you take a

::

concept I didn't even think

::

about and then you expand

::

it into something else.

::

When they said it was just like a,

::

like a radioactive mutation

::

that let him just like grow

::

his shit back.

::

I was like a fucking course.

::

Like I never thought of that.

::

Like it was just,

::

I loved all that was so well done.

::

Ah,

::

So why are they called Minus One?

::

That's a great question.

::

I have no idea.

::

My assumption, I interpreted it as like,

::

hey, this is like Godzilla,

::

but we're going back.

::

Like, take a step back.

::

That's how I interpreted it.

::

Okay.

::

Um...

::

But yeah, they never, I mean,

::

there's not a Superman four

::

quest for peace moment in this movie.

::

It's not like it's Godzilla minus the one,

::

you know,

::

like that never happens to its credit.

::

Thank goodness.

::

I'm so glad that didn't happen.

::

Oh,

::

the title symbolizes Japan's lowest

::

point after World War II

::

and how Godzilla's arrival

::

made the situation even worse.

::

You know,

::

something I do want to say about

::

this movie,

::

and I will totally own the

::

fact of my privilege being a U.S.

::

citizen and getting history from U.S.

::

schools,

::

is that I did not know the extent

::

of devastation the United

::

States left on the Japanese mainland.

::

And when I saw this movie, I was like,

::

oh...

::

Yeah,

::

I guess I wouldn't know about this in

::

high school.

::

And I'm not necessarily...

::

I don't know.

::

Maybe I am blaming a school system,

::

but like, basically I was like,

::

I never thought about this.

::

Like everything I learned in

::

my history class, it was all us focus.

::

And it was like,

::

we dropped the bomb and we

::

won baby go USA.

::

And to see this movie be like, anyway,

::

these people don't even

::

know where to get food and

::

they don't have houses.

::

And there's just people

::

leaving babies because

::

they're stealing food.

::

um that's that's pretty

::

flippin bleak and it did

::

snap me out a little bit of

::

like yeah like this is not

::

great this is bad um and I

::

feel like having this

::

entirely japanese

::

perspective after the

::

second world war was like

::

it was informative for me um and just how

::

how bad it was for the

::

Japanese after 1945 when the war ended.

::

And even that's peppered in

::

throughout the entire movie

::

of Japan not even having a

::

standing military force to

::

fend off Godzilla.

::

And they're like, hey, US, what's up?

::

Help us out.

::

And they're like,

::

we're fighting the Soviets.

::

Actually,

::

we're not supposed to be there

::

because the Soviets will be mad at us.

::

But you know those boats

::

that you use to basically blow us up?

::

Use a couple of them.

::

Go nuts.

::

We don't give a shit.

::

They don't have guns on them.

::

Don't worry about it.

::

You can put new guns on them.

::

Yeah.

::

Like, that's basically how that operated.

::

Yeah.

::

This is why I knew Doug

::

loved this movie because of

::

the historian in him.

::

Because the other part of

::

this that people don't think about is,

::

like, you think, like, oh, man,

::

why did we hang out in Iraq so much?

::

Because that's our playbook.

::

We're an invading force,

::

and then we just kind of

::

hang around for a little while.

::

Almost like when someone goes in to, like,

::

break up a party,

::

and they hang around to

::

make sure you clean up.

::

Don't you have a party again?

::

Make sure those cans go

::

where they're supposed to go.

::

You already took all the alcohol away.

::

Leave us alone.

::

Absolutely.

::

It's not great.

::

the American imperialism of

::

it all is so blatantly on

::

display and the humanistic

::

component of it, which they don't,

::

I'm not going to say they deep dive it.

::

They just make a comment

::

about it because the focus

::

is so much on like, we can do this.

::

Like we as a community can

::

defend ourselves from this

::

giant monster coming from the ocean.

::

It's almost like a secondhand thought,

::

but yeah, you make a great point,

::

Doug of like,

::

Anyway,

::

if you want to kind of see the

::

secondhand effects of

::

American imperialism, here you go.

::

Yep.

::

This lizard movie.

::

You want a doozy of a Saturday?

::

Watch Oppenheimer.

::

Then watch this.

::

Like, you know, fuck.

::

That's so funny.

::

You mentioned that because

::

when I woke up the next morning,

::

I was like,

::

this is like some of this was

::

like what was missing from Oppenheimer.

::

A little bit.

::

Right.

::

Like the consequences kind of things.

::

Yeah.

::

Just like I understand.

::

And we're veering into Oppenheimer.

::

But like Oppenheimer did

::

such a great job with the

::

back half of it.

::

And like.

::

how his downfall happened

::

but like the idea of like

::

hey man you made a bomb

::

that was a sun that like

::

totally changed the face of

::

the earth we're not gonna

::

like see any of that okay

::

that's fine anyway it's

::

weird that godzilla minus

::

one filled in that gap just

::

did not have that very odd

::

very odd that showed that

::

yeah yeah and that's the

::

thing I think I appreciated too is like

::

that moment where the, like the doctor,

::

like the, the scientist,

::

he was such like a,

::

we're going to have to move

::

past our imperialistic

::

tendencies of being military,

::

military focused.

::

And we're going to have to

::

focus on science to get us

::

out of this jam.

::

And that's the only way that

::

we're going to do it.

::

And it was like, uh-huh.

::

Yep.

::

You're right.

::

That's,

::

that is the only way all of us get

::

out of this one guy.

::

Yeah.

::

I guess I would be... I

::

wanted to go back to

::

explain the title because I

::

don't feel like explaining it.

::

The idea behind Godzilla

::

Minus One as the title is

::

to indicate that Japan was at zero,

::

the country's lowest point

::

after World War II.

::

That is the reasoning for the title.

::

Fire title, very deep on another level.

::

It has nothing to do with Godzilla at all.

::

It does, but it doesn't.

::

It talks about a lot more.

::

Why,

::

my question for y'all is why does

::

Godzilla work?

::

You know what I mean?

::

Like what, what is it about Godzilla?

::

That is that it just works.

::

I think you do it.

::

And I haven't,

::

I'll be honest outside of

::

the silly Godzilla, you know,

::

like my guy Harrison, funny Godzilla,

::

right?

::

Godzilla, all these years still works.

::

And this is a very deep and

::

complex storyline that you

::

could have used anything to

::

be insert Godzilla, right?

::

Like whatever that is, why does it work?

::

Is it because it's larger

::

than life and it's

::

something so unrealistic

::

that it makes people come together?

::

And then I had another

::

question about kind of your point, Doug,

::

the science portion of it, right?

::

Imagine that world where the

::

scientist has created this plan.

::

It worked.

::

What do you think would have

::

happened next if they were to do like,

::

all right,

::

we face the Godzilla in order

::

to make sure this does not happen again?

::

And history has now changed

::

itself because you followed

::

that scientist and things

::

seem to have worked.

::

What do you think that world looks like?

::

You can take whichever question.

::

I know I just asked you two

::

kind of loaded questions, but whatever.

::

I think Godzilla works

::

because he's such a...

::

he's such a totem for like

::

whatever issue you want to

::

make him about.

::

Like, you know,

::

like back like Matthew Broderick,

::

Godzilla, that was environmentalism.

::

Like that, that was like,

::

that was the consequences

::

of our own radiation and

::

our own lack of care for

::

the earth and the way we've

::

poisoned things.

::

has come back to bite us in the ass.

::

That is all that one was.

::

And just like this one can

::

be an amalgam for a lot

::

of... It can be a totem for

::

a lot of different things.

::

I think that's the reason

::

why Godzilla works.

::

Even 70s Godzilla,

::

where he's a guy in a suit

::

fighting Ghidorah,

::

another guy in the suit.

::

That even has... They are

::

going for some level of...

::

symbolism of what they were

::

afraid of what I've always

::

appreciated about what I've

::

always appreciated about

::

Godzilla is Godzilla always

::

felt like a commentary on

::

the United States like from

::

my perspective he always

::

felt like a commentary of

::

like you all bombed us back

::

into the Stone Age like

::

and you weren't even

::

remotely concerned with

::

what the consequences are.

::

So it always felt like a commentary on,

::

for me,

::

Godzilla always felt like a commentary on,

::

we are always still living under the,

::

almost like they are the

::

consequences of the nuclear

::

war that was waged on us.

::

That we'll never be able to escape.

::

There's always this

::

underlying threat that we

::

are going to have to deal

::

with something scary at

::

some point in time.

::

a problem we didn't create,

::

but we are now going to

::

have to be responsible for

::

getting ourselves out of.

::

And that's what I've always

::

like looked at and why

::

Godzilla works for me is

::

that level of symbolism

::

throughout all of it of like,

::

they took this action and

::

whether that's our children growing up,

::

like with some sort of birth defect,

::

that's the real life or it's a, uh,

::

giant monster that comes in,

::

destroys our cities or

::

fights a giant moth and

::

then like goes on off into the sunset.

::

And then,

::

and that's the thing I think I

::

appreciate about it is like they've,

::

they've claimed this

::

tragedy for themselves and says,

::

this is still us.

::

This is still who we are.

::

And that's because, and that's,

::

what's weird is like by all

::

tense and like by all circumstances,

::

Godzilla should be the bane

::

of their existence.

::

Yeah.

::

And yet,

::

in every, like, 70s Godzilla movie,

::

he is seen as a hero.

::

Like, he is,

::

that is the one that is for

::

Japan that is moving us forward.

::

And it's just, it feels,

::

it just feels really, like,

::

it's a weird concept,

::

but that's the reason why I,

::

it's always worked for me,

::

is that it can represent

::

just about anything,

::

but there's this level of, like,

::

the consequences of us as

::

Americans and U.S.

::

citizens,

::

the actions we've taken and what

::

that effect has been long-term.

::

Interesting.

::

That's a great answer.

::

Yeah, I mean,

::

I think I think Doug covered it.

::

And I think I think the only

::

thing I would I would add

::

on to it is that I think for Godzilla,

::

it's also it's also pretty

::

easy accessibility from an

::

accessibility standpoint.

::

Like and I mean this in the

::

best way possible.

::

But like you say, Godzilla, you're like,

::

oh, big green monster.

::

Like I know exactly what's happening.

::

And it can work on multiple levels,

::

like the atomic level that

::

we described earlier.

::

It works on this like person

::

on the ground just trying

::

to survive a disaster.

::

It works.

::

I mean,

::

even even Roman just commented like

::

talking about how these

::

atomic weapons should

::

probably be decommissioned

::

because they'll they will kill us,

::

whether it is from a nuke

::

or from a giant monster like Godzilla,

::

like consequences we can't fathom.

::

And there's another movie

::

called Shin Godzilla,

::

which is essentially bonkers.

::

Which is essentially like it

::

is only focused on the

::

government officials trying

::

to deal with a disaster and

::

red tape of how to take care of Godzilla.

::

And it's just it's Godzilla

::

is this concept of just

::

like it is disaster right in your face.

::

And there's no nuance to it.

::

I maybe I maybe I should

::

maybe walk that back.

::

But it's very direct.

::

It is very direct.

::

There's a giant lizard out

::

there that is spewing

::

atomic fire and you got to deal with it.

::

Mm hmm.

::

which I think is a contrast

::

to some of the things in our world.

::

Um, even, you know,

::

back in the forties and fifties,

::

I guess I could say,

::

but like some things can

::

get talked out of the way

::

or stuck in committee or, Oh,

::

we just don't talk about that anymore.

::

Or we don't bring that up at dinner.

::

Like Godzilla's in his face.

::

He's outside your window and

::

you have to deal with it.

::

And forcing those people to

::

have those interactions

::

from a narrative standpoint,

::

I think is what has always

::

kept its relevance.

::

Um,

::

I just wanted to add that on.

::

Those were two great answers.

::

That was a great addition.

::

Yeah, that's well said.

::

I think, for those that don't know,

::

Shin Godzilla is where

::

Godzilla opens its mouth,

::

but it has a top part and

::

then two separate bottom parts,

::

and he looks really weird.

::

He looks super weird.

::

You can make him look however.

::

It's so easy to understand.

::

The point I was going to

::

make is I think that that's where...

::

Don't get me wrong.

::

The modern Monsterverse WB

::

Godzilla movies are entertaining,

::

but they do feel a little

::

just a smidgen soulless

::

because it is very much

::

like we just made the big

::

monkey and the big lizard fight.

::

Yes.

::

That's all we did.

::

We made them fight each other.

::

And it's like...

::

But why?

::

It's like,

::

because you paid to see him fight, baby.

::

Like, that's why.

::

Like,

::

and so it's just that's that's that's

::

the part of it where it's

::

like and you can even make

::

a sense like Godzilla

::

versus Kong is about like

::

technological advancement.

::

And like there's still sort

::

of an angle there,

::

but it's just like it's so

::

lost in the like circumstance.

::

It is.

::

It is.

::

And I feel like those movies

::

have its place.

::

Oh, sure.

::

They don't like what they could cover.

::

They absolutely don't.

::

It's like,

::

what if Godzilla had lasers or like,

::

what if there was a monkey

::

army instead of like.

::

What if they stood in for

::

technological and environmental progress,

::

right?

::

Well, that's the American, no, no, no.

::

That's just to Doug's point

::

or everybody's point.

::

I think that's just

::

Americanizing this

::

character that probably has

::

more significance in as

::

like a original Japan,

::

like a character from Japan,

::

Jesus Christ.

::

Like an American version is laser laser.

::

mechanical Godzilla make

::

them fight like yes you

::

have big monkey you have

::

big lizard you make them

::

fight like that's such an

::

American response right and

::

it's like I think that the

::

new Godzilla had a lot of

::

potential with this monarch

::

type of world that's why

::

King of Monsters works so well

::

Yes.

::

And King of Monsters,

::

I love King of Monsters.

::

It's so good.

::

It gets sillier.

::

Like, that's where you take Godzilla.

::

I remember the shot in King

::

of Monsters when Godzilla

::

is walking through all of

::

the fucking debris and dust

::

to go fight the other

::

big... I think that was

::

King of the Monsters.

::

He's like, to go fight the other monsters.

::

And it looks like fucking

::

death and disarray.

::

But like...

::

This one resembles that

::

because this Godzilla

::

wasn't fucking around.

::

Matter of fact,

::

he might have ran a 4-4-40

::

because that fucking was fast.

::

When they put the spotlight on him,

::

he dipped quick as hell to

::

go knock the damn tower over.

::

But it gets... Godzilla vs. Kong,

::

I haven't seen it yet,

::

but I'm assuming it's just

::

as silly as it's Godzilla

::

and Kong fighting side by side.

::

It has its place,

::

and that's really all I had to say.

::

I think y'all responses for

::

that Godzilla question was

::

really fucking phenomenal, by the way.

::

That was great.

::

We have quite bright.

::

I was going to say like and

::

I'm not saying like

::

Godzilla completely owns this concept,

::

but I do feel like it is

::

one of the ones that you

::

can revisit very frequently

::

and put a new spin on it.

::

Like I think zombies

::

you can, you can talk a lot about it there,

::

but I don't think it has

::

the same sticking power as Godzilla.

::

Like obviously alien

::

invasions and stuff like

::

that is like movies like oblivion,

::

but like, there's nothing,

::

there's nothing there that

::

has stuck as much as Godzilla to me that,

::

that represents a lot of that.

::

So yeah, like some stuff,

::

some stuff has come and gone,

::

but Godzilla,

::

I feel like it's still the best example.

::

I agree.

::

That would be fire Roman.

::

I have the question, but Doug,

::

I want you to go.

::

Yeah.

::

So I had one little fun fact

::

that I wanted to drop on y'all.

::

So you all know that my

::

affinity for like the Godzilla song.

::

Oh, sure.

::

Great sample.

::

Yeah.

::

Yep.

::

Great sample.

::

Uh, not to Pharaoh, uh, monster Simon says,

::

uh, um, um,

::

But then that like... So that, fun fact,

::

was a song that was

::

originally used as a part

::

of a Japanese war

::

propaganda video that they

::

repurposed for the Suite for Godzilla.

::

in the original yes godzilla

::

suite I think it's godzilla

::

suite part two is what it's

::

referred to as but that

::

song is to add like sort of

::

some further layer and

::

context to it all it's a it

::

was made by a was made by a

::

japanese composer and it

::

was made originally for

::

japanese like propaganda

::

videos that were used in

::

during the war okay I love

::

that detail jesus christ

::

I had to know.

::

When I heard it in this, I was like,

::

I gotta fucking know where this was.

::

So I went down a rabbit hole.

::

I know we're starting to

::

kind of close in here.

::

And one thing I do want to

::

say about this movie was

::

that I do appreciate how

::

this movie made such a

::

concerted effort to

::

actually think through how

::

these characters would deal

::

with Godzilla.

::

And I know...

::

It's really easy to just like, ah,

::

it's Godzilla.

::

We gotta just shoot a big

::

gun at it and we make a big

::

robot Godzilla and then we fight it.

::

Which is fine.

::

I love Pacific Rim.

::

Oh, yeah, that's Pacific Rim.

::

And I own it on Blu-ray.

::

They should make more.

::

I love it.

::

I love that movie so much.

::

Pacific Rim is so good.

::

But in Godzilla,

::

it looked at Pacific Rim

::

and then it was like, no, not like that.

::

and instead no not like this

::

no daddy no not like this

::

like they completely throw

::

out that playbook of like

::

guns and I love the fact

::

that their giant plan to

::

take down godzilla is to

::

like give him the bends yes

::

And I, when I'm watching the briefing,

::

they're like, okay,

::

here's what we're going to do.

::

There's a big trench in Tokyo Bay.

::

We're going to put them down.

::

We're going to put them down.

::

And then if that doesn't work,

::

we bring them back up.

::

And I'm just like, honestly, it's funny,

::

but also like, this is so relatable.

::

And maybe it's because we

::

live through a global health crisis,

::

but I'm like, yeah,

::

this is the conversation

::

people would have.

::

Like, I don't know.

::

We just have them go up and

::

down and then just, we hope in the ships,

::

they tie them up and we

::

hope for the best.

::

Good luck, everyone.

::

There's no backup plan.

::

I just,

::

I loved that plan because it was so

::

practical.

::

It was materials they would have used.

::

It wasn't anything like combat focused.

::

And it was really using your noggin.

::

And obviously they have the

::

plane come in at the end,

::

but here's the thing, coming back,

::

it was so intentional

::

because it served that character's story.

::

That is that character.

::

You cannot...

::

you cannot remove either of

::

those elements from that

::

character and not have that

::

fulfilling story.

::

So that is something I think

::

this movie does so well.

::

Yeah, Brian, their second, like,

::

their plan B was attach a

::

bunch of rafts to him.

::

Like, that was their plan B. It's like,

::

make sure that we've got

::

enough rafts to get him up.

::

And that's my favorite part

::

when they're like, oh, no,

::

he bit through the rafts.

::

Like, yeah, like...

::

Well, what's the backup plan?

::

Everybody look out this window.

::

And I was like, that's it?

::

I was with the guy who was like,

::

so what happens if this doesn't work?

::

No, no, no.

::

It'll work.

::

You gotta fight for your country.

::

This movie's a comedy.

::

The ships collide in the

::

middle of the plan, too,

::

and the Admiral's like, I don't know.

::

Good luck.

::

Yeah.

::

and this is relatable yeah

::

the two my favorite is the

::

two scientists looked and

::

went he chewed through the

::

raft it has like such super

::

troopers vibes of like

::

we've already pulled over

::

we can't pull over any

::

further oh my gosh that's a

::

perfect that's a perfect

::

comparison yeah um

::

gentlemen this apparently

::

the way you get me to act right

::

on a pod is to get me to

::

talk about godzilla I mean

::

because I all of the 180 by

::

the way all of the jokes

::

went away and I was like oh

::

we're talking about

::

godzilla we shut the fuck

::

up we gotta take this shit

::

seriously he left me

::

hanging where I had to like

::

figure some shit out but I

::

was like martin's like well

::

I guess it's just me um

::

anything that you all

::

anything else that you all

::

have to chat about or

::

anything else you want to

::

talk about as it relates to

::

godzilla I think

::

I will re-watch this.

::

Is the black and white

::

version on Netflix too?

::

I think it is.

::

I think I want to re-watch it.

::

Minus one, minus color.

::

The non-dub black and white

::

version because I think

::

that this is a very good movie

::

easily rewatchable,

::

it might be even better in

::

black and white.

::

That's just my... I might

::

watch it in black and white too.

::

I never saw it in black and white.

::

And I didn't watch it high,

::

so I enjoyed this in its most sober form.

::

Oh, man.

::

Your mileage may vary.

::

That might be the best decision you make.

::

Honestly, yeah.

::

I should do it again just watching it.

::

I have a great time regardless.

::

So the rumor is, this is only rumored,

::

but Godzilla minus one minus color

::

is coming later this summer.

::

Oh, okay.

::

That sounds like it's going

::

to be an option.

::

Before or after Rebel Moon 3?

::

Based on everything Rebel Moon 2,

::

definitely before.

::

That motherfucking key post and shit.

::

I want to say, Zach,

::

how did you turn me into this guy?

::

I don't understand why I

::

look at a post and say, God damn it.

::

What the fuck?

::

Yeah.

::

That's some inception there.

::

Watching a film in black and white.

::

There it is.

::

Shout out to Doug.

::

He's been encouraging us to

::

watch this movie and he

::

really locked the fuck in for this.

::

It was so good.

::

And I'm glad that we can

::

talk about it for our

::

listeners too because I

::

feel like it was kind of on

::

the fringe because it was

::

in theaters really fast

::

because it was considered

::

like a foreign film.

::

And then it left.

::

And then I feel like all the

::

licensing got weird with Max.

::

We didn't talk about Max, but we will.

::

Don't worry.

::

You're still on our list.

::

You're on our list.

::

You're on our list.

::

And the licenses got weird with it.

::

So if you've made it to this

::

point in the podcast,

::

go watch this movie on Netflix.

::

Go watch it.

::

Yes.

::

And Netflix just not

::

announcing it and being like,

::

if you go to Netflix,

::

Godzilla Minus One is there.

::

boom like that is like what

::

a flex from them on like

::

just you know every time

::

I'm like I don't really

::

watch netflix there's

::

something that comes up

::

like once every four weeks

::

where I'm like yeah this

::

totally paid for I watched

::

atlas and I'll be honest I

::

did too yeah I didn't think

::

that movie was that bad I

::

watched the garfield movie

::

like the new one in

::

theaters how was that on

::

netflix I mean it's okay

::

the kids wanted to go to a

::

movie on saturday and

::

that's what we went to I'll

::

give you a review on it

::

next week all right good um

::

yeah I got excited you guys

::

were talking about movies

::

you watched mine wasn't on

::

netflix it was you're fine

::

no I mean we're talking

::

about movies we watched I

::

watched hey I've been there

::

I've been considering my

::

kids been watching pokemon

::

now on and off or

::

and lego batman batman has

::

been on weekly um but no

::

atlas with j-lo is

::

basically jennifer lopez

::

just talking to herself for

::

like a solid hour and it's

::

fine and by the way it's

::

she overacts sometimes but

::

it's fine so it's fine um

::

and also if I may um j-lo

::

you have made two marriages

::

to ben affleck not

::

necessarily work maybe

::

don't go back down that road

::

J-Lo, have you met my friend Marcus?

::

Come on the pod and talk to Marcus.

::

You're a mom?

::

That checks a box.

::

You're into music?

::

That checks another box.

::

Checks a lot of boxes.

::

Just saying.

::

I mean, he's not wrong,

::

and that's the best part.

::

That's the best part.

::

I mean, if it happens, J-Lo.

::

I'm manifesting that in the

::

world for my guy.

::

That feels like it's

::

starting a fight with me

::

fighting fucking Batman or Ben Affleck.

::

And her purse is full of green M&Ms.

::

Fuck.

::

Home run.

::

Gentlemen,

::

anything that you all want to

::

plug this week?

::

Hey, folks,

::

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::

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::

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::

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Our first key to success.

::

Hey folks,

::

I was on vacation and that gave

::

me time to read.

::

So if you're taking a vacation, get a book,

::

any book,

::

maybe a book you've wanted to

::

read for a while.

::

Cause guess what?

::

You're going to have some

::

free time and use that free

::

time to read a book.

::

You're going to be super

::

tempted to be like, you know,

::

I'm just going to check my

::

phone for like one thing.

::

Don't do it.

::

Don't do it.

::

You don't need to,

::

you don't need to do that.

::

Just read a book,

::

read a book and look at the

::

beautiful place that you're in.

::

Yeah.

::

It's true.

::

Actually.

::

Sure.

::

That guy's living what he

::

preached to a hundred percent.

::

Uh, Marcus.

::

You want to make sure

::

Juneteenth is coming up.

::

It's drink some water.

::

That's the best way to put that.

::

Simple and to the point.

::

And here's what I'm going to say.

::

It's still 84 degrees outside.

::

The humidity is like 80%.

::

Wash your ass.

::

Wash it twice.

::

This might even be three showers.

::

If you're a person who works

::

outside for work, drink water.

::

Then go home and wash your ass.

::

Maybe in the morning and in the evening.

::

Cause that's, that's a lot.

::

Just do it for yourself.

::

You feel so much better.

::

You'll sleep better.

::

You ever go to sleep and you

::

smell yourself.

::

Oh shit.

::

I made a choice.

::

It ruins the vibe.

::

And I have a hard time even

::

like sleeping then.

::

So wash your ass.

::

It's your body and your sleep.

::

Even when you think people can't smell you,

::

you'll do like a little

::

sniff test to be like,

::

can I go another day?

::

Sometimes they can.

::

And women have very strong

::

senses of smell.

::

So if you are like trying to

::

like pursue somebody,

::

always remember they can smell you.

::

Yeah, they can.

::

Yeah, they absolutely can. 100%.

::

That does it for this week's

::

episode of Films of Black and White.

::

We'll be back next week with

::

another fantastic episode.

::

But in the meantime and the between time,

::

stay safe, stay healthy.

::

We love y'all.

::

We appreciate y'all.

::

We'll catch y'all next week.

::

I was this close to saying

::

something about J-Lo when you said that.

::

And I said, nope,

::

I'm going to take a high road.

::

I'm going to take a high road here.

::

You already talked about J-Lo.

::

You were the hard sell on Marcus, man.

::

You're going to say

::

something about J-Lo again?

::

It's not a hard sell.

::

He's an incredible person.

::

Well, thank you.

::

I appreciate it.

::

I don't know if I want any part.

::

If she ruined two marriages, why would I?

::

Why?

::

Why send her my way?

::

Because maybe you'll be the

::

one to fix her.

::

I don't know.

::

I don't think it works in three.

::

No.

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