Episode 18

Rap Beef, Paramount Purchase, and Jerry Seinfeld aka "Ebony Yams"

Published on: 8th May, 2024

We have a really potpourri new episode for you all today! We are covering just about everything from music to comedy to streaming services.

But first, we play our new favorite game "Fill that Quotable" a catch that quotable variation. Then Marcus breaks down for us all that is happening between Drake and Kendrick. Bryan gives us the latest update on the purchase of Paramount. Finally Doug gives Jerry Seinfeld a stern talking too.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/05/business/media/sony-apollo-paramount.html

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Transcript
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We're doing it.

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We're doing it.

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Doing it.

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Doing it.

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Doing it.

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I'm hitting the button.

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Go ahead.

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No, the button's here.

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Producer, hit the button.

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Sorry, I'm going to hit the button.

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Produce.

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What's she saying?

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What's she saying on the thing?

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Hit the fucking button.

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Yeah, that's right on, too.

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I just set a new course.

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Impressive,

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now release your anger Must

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have sensed that your

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friends are in danger Oh,

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why'd you slice off my hand?

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It's imperative that you

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understand Obi-Wan would

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never bother Telling you

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about your father He told me enough,

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he told me you killed him

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Then there's something I must do

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Welcome to Films of Black and White,

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everybody.

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How are you all feeling?

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A belated happy May the 4th

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be with you all today and

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forever and for always.

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Glad we could all be here.

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It's a great day.

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It's a great day to pod.

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Marcus is through finals and graduation,

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which is even better.

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That feels good.

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Brian's ankle is hearing,

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which is even better news.

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Things are turning up for all of us,

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and I'm very, very,

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very excited about it.

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We have an outstanding

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episode to be with you all today.

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We're going to go over a little bit of...

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gonna go over some there's

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been some rap beef I don't

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know if you've heard about

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the last yeah 48 hours

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worth of drama um two

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titans boxing it the fuck

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out yeah it's it's the

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equivalent of kong versus

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godzilla but it is all

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music which is fine and I'm here for

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Um,

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and then Brian is going to run us down

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some things about the

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latest Sony paramount merger.

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Um,

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and then I'm going to spend the rest of

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the time going off on Jerry Seinfeld,

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which I'm very excited about.

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Wow.

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Most importantly.

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Wow.

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We're all here.

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We're all on time.

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No one's having any

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technical difficulties.

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No one's having any mystery

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music come from anywhere

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that we don't know how to turn off.

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It is a great day.

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So, Marcus J. Destin, a.k.a.

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Red Undies and Rat Beef.

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How are you feeling, sir?

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Feeling good.

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I'm here with my guys.

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Listen, it's the first Monday.

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I could just pop in and be here.

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I was at home at...

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5 o'clock, which is very strange.

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Wow, that feels good.

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I'm here, ready to pod.

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I purposely did not look at

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anything in the chat.

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My guys was talking in the chat.

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I didn't look at anything.

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All I looked at was the

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Superman outfit and

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listened to a shit ton of

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hip-hop music today,

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so I'm ready to fucking pod.

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I'm so excited for you.

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You did miss out on Hulk

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Hogan representing the 700 Club,

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asking us what we're going

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to do when the Lord and

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Savior and Hulkamania go whiling on you,

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brother.

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Which is a moment that you

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can now go back and look at

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at any point in time.

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But I'm glad you were able to get home.

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I don't think I missed out

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on anything for what it's worth.

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Yeah, for sure.

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For sure.

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Hold on.

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Let's throw a wrench in there.

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Doug, heavy metal.

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How are you doing?

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Yeah.

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Outstanding.

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I'm doing great.

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So had a good weekend.

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It was nice out.

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I got a little bit of,

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for those who are watching

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the live stream, you're like, wow,

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Doug looks a little red today.

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It's because I got sunburned

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because I'm a bald man and

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I went outside.

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Oh.

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Always happens to me once,

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usually at this point in

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time of the year where I forget.

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and I go outside,

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and I forget to slather my dome.

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Thank you, Roman.

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You look great.

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Is it a film?

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Wait a minute.

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That's it.

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What?

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Films in black and white groupie.

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Yes, that's in the chat.

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All I saw was white groupie,

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and I was like, wow,

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that's very descriptive and specific.

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That's a different type of groupie.

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That feels almost targeted.

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That kind of groupie cuts

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holes in their sheets.

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That's the kind of groupie

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that we're dealing with.

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I agree.

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But also, I had a I mean,

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it's just been a good weekend.

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So Harrison got a new bike.

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We're riding bikes.

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So we're getting out on it.

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So, yeah, man, things are good.

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So, yeah, all in all, doing really,

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really well.

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I have gone down a heavy

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metal rabbit hole.

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Okay, do tell.

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We talked about it.

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I listened to... Y'all might

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remember the show Metalocalypse.

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Yes.

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And the band Death Clock.

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Yes.

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And I started listening to that album.

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And I listened to the whole thing.

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But not on purpose.

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I didn't sit down and be like,

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I want to listen to this whole thing.

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What I found is...

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there must be something

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about like the bass or the

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guitar riff or the drum

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that sends me into a trance

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where like it starts

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playing and I start working

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and then I just wake up

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three hours later and I'm like, Oh,

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what happened?

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And I have like music,

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like 25 emails sent and

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hopefully there are no spelling errors,

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but like that's,

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so that's what happened to

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me like on Friday and then

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throughout the weekend is like,

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I put myself in a weird

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heavy metal trench and I've,

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it's also good because,

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i go around and I will sing

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like talk in like a deep

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voice like uh I have to do

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the dishes like like like

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just like waiting for

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someone to come in and

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shred the guitar like the

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dishes are dirty like I'm

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just like yep yep I'm just

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ready for it um

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So,

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but that's been the rabbit hole that I

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went down.

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Not disappointed with it.

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It's actually kind of nice

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because I steered clear of

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the rap beef over the

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course of the past three days.

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Wow, impressive.

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It's usually like hip hop is my jam,

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but it's like I left that behind.

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It's like I knew that there was,

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I knew the community was in disarray.

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So I went like, no, no, no, no, no.

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They'll figure it out and I'll come back.

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Like, duke it out.

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But Brian Rausch.

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Hello.

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Magneto made valid points.

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How are you, sir?

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I'm doing great.

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Doug alluded to the fact I

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sprained my ankle pretty bad last week,

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Wednesday.

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So I've been talking with my

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personal trainer, Doug Wagner, about it.

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And he did give me a toe activity,

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which was very helpful.

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So I was in like a 90 minute

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meeting and I was like, wow,

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my foot really hurts.

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And Doug's like, yeah, just like do this.

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And I was like,

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I'm already feeling it loosen up.

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This is great.

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This is phenomenal.

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So anyway, yeah,

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nothing makes you feel like

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more of a frail human than being like,

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I'm running.

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And then all of a sudden your body's like,

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you know what you should do?

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You should put all of your

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weight on your ankle.

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And then you're like, ow, that hurts body.

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And it's like, well, now you can't walk,

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have fun.

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So that's been my reality

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for the past few days.

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And, but it's, but I'm,

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I'm better now physically.

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feeling better uh ibuprofen

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is a miracle drug as far as

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I'm concerned it's great uh

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yeah don't just just take

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it don't don't worry about

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not taking it just take it

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uh so anyway that's that's

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my long intro here that I have anyway um

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Brian, do you do the thing when you fall?

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Do you gingerly get yourself

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back up again and dust yourself off?

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Or do you hop up and jog it

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off like you meant to do it?

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Oh, this,

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this one was like easily the most

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painful sprain I've ever had.

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There was one that I could

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compare when I lived in

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Chicago and like Chicago,

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you never know what street

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you're going to get.

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And like the, like the,

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the brick stones in it were loose.

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And I just, I really,

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I really messed it up.

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And that one was pretty bad, but this one,

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man, no, there was no,

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there was no like playing it off.

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Cool.

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I yelled.

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I did swear.

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um and I just said I sat

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down on the bench and I was

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like did I really do that

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like yeah running this path

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for like the better part of

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five years and okay cool

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cool cool cool so um and

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then I yeah and then I

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lived back home it was

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great it was phenomenal but

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I'm doing better which is

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the best part uh because I've been

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spelling out the ABCs with my big toe.

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Loosening up all those nerves.

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You've got so many nerves in your ankle.

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Your blood vessels will

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swell because they're

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trying to protect the injury.

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That's what our body does

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when things swell.

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What that's going to do is

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loosen it up and hopefully

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make that swelling go down a little bit.

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I appreciate that.

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I switched into trainer mode.

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I was making dick jokes not

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five minutes ago, but

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We've got to talk about his ankle,

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and it's very serious.

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Brian, I've fallen running,

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and I remember I slid forward,

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but then I just pushed right up.

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Oh, no.

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Because there were cars around,

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and I did not make eye contact.

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I was like, nope, I meant to do that.

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Yep, I was just seeing how gravity worked.

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Yep, that's right.

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um do you want to tell folks

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how they stay in touch with

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us doug I would love to I

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would love to tell you that

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if you want to hear more

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about my sprained ankle you

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can subscribe to our

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patreon we have all

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different kinds of tiers

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but the best way to support

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us is by going to films uh

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going to patreon.com films

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in black and white this is

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how we stay an independent podcast

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This is how we cover what we

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want to cover and how we

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stay separate and

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independent from all of the

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major conglomerates.

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Because I guarantee you,

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if we were part of a larger

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podcast network,

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we may not be able to say

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certain things about

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certain hip hop artists or

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we would have had to take a

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side depending on a certain label.

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We can just say whatever we

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want or you can be like me

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and you're like,

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I'm completely neutral

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because this ain't my business.

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uh so anyway that's the best

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way to follow us and

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support us if you can't do

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clips from the show and

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spoiler warning if we're

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gonna talk about anything

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but we're not talking about

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any specific movies tonight

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doug you've had your hand

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up and you've waited so

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patiently yeah brian is

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there a patreon tier that

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gets me pictures of your sprained ankle

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I just want to know.

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Bruised ankle pics?

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That's a different website.

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That is a different website.

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Sorry.

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You leave us the link

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somewhere that people can

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go and find that website.

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Well done.

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Well done.

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Fun with friends.

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Here we go.

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Gentlemen,

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we have another exciting episode

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of fill in that quotable,

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which is catch that quotable.

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Don't worry.

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I got you.

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Distracted sounds of Marcus J.

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I mean, I mean,

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I've been across from

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someone looking at their phone before,

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so I know what it looks like,

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whether it's video,

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whether it's video or

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whether it's live and in living color.

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I can't see what I was

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seeing in my glasses.

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No, no, I wasn't looking, though.

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I'm going to go back and enhance.

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He found those bruised yam

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pictures that Brian was talking about.

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Gentlemen,

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so this is a fill-in-that-quotable.

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Each one of us has a word

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that we get to fill in.

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Aren't all bruises yams?

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Aren't all yams bruised?

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Because they all look beat

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to shit when you buy them from the store.

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah, I mean, maybe.

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I mean, maybe.

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I know what movie this is from,

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but it's not going to help

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me in this quote.

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So here we go.

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I'm going to read the quote.

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Wait, are you guys ready?

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I didn't even ask.

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Are you ready?

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I'm ready.

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Let's go.

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Hit me.

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Okay.

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Hit me.

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I missed my cue.

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Okay, I messed it up.

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It's all right.

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It's all right.

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So I think my blank of blank

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is about to blank.

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And it was said by Patrick Bateman.

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Okay, sorry.

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Say it.

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Oh, that was quick.

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Can you say it again?

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I think my blank of blank is

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about to blank.

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Patrick Bateman.

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Now, I know what movie this is from,

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but I cannot tell you.

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It's American Psycho.

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It's American Psycho.

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Okay, fun fact.

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I've never seen American Psycho.

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Ooh, that's worth a watch.

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That is worth a watch.

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Yeah, I figured.

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That seems like a classic, classic,

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but I've never seen American Psycho.

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Yeah.

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I'm out.

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yeah what is it yeah doug

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you're gonna have to lead

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us with at least a little

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bit a little bit because I

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I've only seen this movie

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once and it was like 15

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years ago my blank is gonna

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my blank is what I think my

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I think my blank of blank

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is about to blank I think

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it's not the business card sequence right

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No, because remember,

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the thing is he makes

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excuses the whole time,

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like every time he needs to step away.

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So for those of you

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listening and for those of

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you who haven't seen it,

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I'm not going to spoil it,

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but the general gist is

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Patrick Bateman works in a...

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Yeah,

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he works in the investment world in

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New York City, and he has a really,

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really dark secret.

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And the dark secret is he's a psychopath,

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which leads to weird situations,

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and it's executed in a very unique way,

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especially given the time it was made.

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But every time he needs to

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step away because he's

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having some urges or he

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feels caught off guard or

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cornered because he has to

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answer a question about

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where he was or what he was doing,

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he always says, like...

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I need to go return some videotapes.

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Like he's always making an

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excuse in the movie that he

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has to like go do something.

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So the cue that we're

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getting from Roman is think of a face.

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Think of a face.

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Okay.

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We're going to blink the face.

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I think the it's.

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okay so I think the so I

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don't know the first word

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but I think the second two

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words is I think the blank

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of no because that would be

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yeah I don't know what this

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is I have absolutely no

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idea I'm I'm out of luck I

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don't know well do you

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think my blank is gonna

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blank do we just want to

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wave the white flag and

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just look it up or moment

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give us one word yeah just

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give us one word you might

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be able to figure out one word

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Or don't give us anything.

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Whichever one of the three,

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just give us one of the words.

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We don't have to do it for money.

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We can wave the white flag,

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but I just want to... You

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just want to see how many

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of you can get it?

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I just want to see.

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What's my handicap here?

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Because I have zero idea.

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The first word is mask.

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I think my mask...

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See, that's what I thought it was.

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There's a line where he's

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looking in the mirror in

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the bathroom and he's

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taking like because he has

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this like really intense

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facial treatment in this

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facial routine and he's

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peeling the mask off.

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And he says he has this line

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out loud and I can't give

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you the exact word of it,

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but it's essentially the gist of like.

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I think my mask is about to crack.

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Like it's like something in there,

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but I can't place the order

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and I don't have it exactly.

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So I don't know what the,

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I know maybe crack is the last word.

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So I think my mask of blank

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is about to crack.

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Deception, my mask of manipulation,

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my mask of deceit.

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I don't know.

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What is he portraying

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throughout the movie that

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he's been trying to hide from people?

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Oh,

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he's trying to show people that he is –

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the whole thing is like a –

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it's sort of a commentary

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on Wall Street culture

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where it really wants you

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to think like there is –

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Keeping up appearances and

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the competition of, like,

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who has the best business card and,

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you know,

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who has the best suit and who

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can get the best dinner reservation.

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All that coupled with someone who has,

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like, a deep, dark secret.

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So there is a facade here

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that he is keeping up,

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and that's what the mask

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line is sort of getting to.

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I like deceit.

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Like, I think that that's a fair guess.

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Like, I think that's a fair shot.

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Okay.

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I looked it up.

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So...

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Do you want another hint?

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Or, I looked it up.

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Okay.

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I don't know this.

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I'm not going to place it,

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and I don't want to take

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away from the rest of the pod,

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so do you just want to give it to us?

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I can give it to you if you just want it.

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Yep, white flag in it.

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Just give it to us.

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From the movie American Psycho,

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the quote is,

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I think my mask of sanity is

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about to slip.

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I never would have gotten that.

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I never would have gotten that.

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i as soon as you got

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two-thirds of the way

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through and I was like yep

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that's a fire ass line I

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might have to watch it just

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for that oh it's a great

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line yeah yeah it's where I

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fell in love with huey

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lewis and the news yeah

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it's a great movie um jared

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leto's in it I'm pretty

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sure it's like one of the

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first movies that jared

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leto was in that's right

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yeah he's been around for

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for that long ladies and germs

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Morbius himself is in this movie.

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Morbius himself.

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The movie that broke me.

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The movie that broke Ryan.

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Gentlemen, we have a lot.

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We got some different pieces

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we want to get into.

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Marcus,

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you know what I'm most curious about?

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Just because people might

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not necessarily know,

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and you tend to be our rap

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beef correspondent.

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I mean, it's true.

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Marcus, you want to lay us down?

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What's going on with Kendrick and Drake?

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Man.

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I would be glad to attempt to.

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Please.

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Just to give everybody this brief, I guess,

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timeline of music.

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Let me look it up because

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somebody did post a good

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tweet that kind of phrased

::

things in a good way.

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This beef has been brewing

::

for decades now.

::

We all know.

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the big three right the big

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three in the realm of

::

hip-hop and music um and

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sometimes it bleeds over to

::

like one of these guys like

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drake primarily can can

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cross over to like pop and

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he's like one of the

::

biggest artists in the

::

world where the other two

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are more kendrick is also

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leans over he can be more

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like world renowned j cole

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is more hip-hop at its base right yeah

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Lyricist to his core.

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Still, the big three is J. Cole,

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my favorite rapper, Kendrick Lamar,

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and Drizzy Drake.

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They've been running the game for years,

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untouchable,

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selling over $250,000 every

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time they drop a fucking album.

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They outsell everything.

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It's crazy as hell.

::

who's froggy fresh isn't

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that the guy from that

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video game that uh no I

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don't know who froggy fresh

::

is honestly neither I don't

::

know enough that that could

::

be a real artist oh I you

::

know what I'm very it

::

absolutely could be I don't

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know doug bought it up so I

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just said I felt like I

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don't know I don't know

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okay so okay here's what

::

happened so apparently the rumor is

::

Kendrick and Drake did a

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song together called First

::

Person Shooter that was on Drake's album.

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It was a smash hit.

::

Apparently,

::

they wanted Kendrick to be on

::

the song for that to be a

::

big three type song that

::

they put out the biggest

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fucking ever to do it.

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Would have sounded crazy.

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Because the big three have

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never done a song together, okay?

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Now,

::

there's been internal beef or whatever

::

between Kendrick and Drake,

::

and we kind of knew that,

::

and J. Cole and Kendrick are more friends,

::

okay?

::

So there's a song that comes out.

::

It's called Like That.

::

It's by Metro Boomin' Future

::

featuring Kendrick on the verse.

::

Kendrick is going directly at...

::

motherfucking Drake and J. Cole.

::

He throws a little shot at

::

Cole because him and Cole are cool.

::

And then Drake,

::

he just goes directly on like that verse.

::

For all your dogs getting buried,

::

that's okay with all these nines,

::

you're going to see Pet Sematary.

::

Drake's album was called For All The Dogs.

::

Just a very crazy...

::

Just very crazy lines.

::

So he goes at him.

::

He says, there is no big three.

::

It's just big me.

::

Now, Cole, in the process,

::

disses Kendrick back in his

::

random album that he just

::

dropped randomly.

::

It was called the 7-Minute Freestyle.

::

Cole goes at him.

::

And in the verse,

::

you can tell Cole didn't

::

really want to go at him.

::

And not to mention,

::

Drake and Cole have been on

::

tour together this whole time.

::

They've been daffing each other up,

::

hugging each other,

::

showing each other mad love.

::

It's like, you always my inspiration, blah,

::

blah, blah.

::

Big rapper, tour guy shit.

::

Okay, tour shit.

::

Kendrick didn't like that.

::

So he mentioned it in the

::

song that he doesn't like

::

that because that looks,

::

you know what I mean?

::

So, all right.

::

Cole disses him on a song

::

called 7 Minute Freestyle.

::

Cole then goes to his city concert.

::

It's like a massive festival.

::

It's called the Dreamville

::

Festival in North Carolina in his city.

::

He goes out while he's

::

performing and he says, all right, y'all.

::

My bad.

::

That's my boy, Kendrick Lamar.

::

I didn't want to really diss

::

nobody because that's my dog.

::

I still love him.

::

You know, he cool, whatever.

::

So I'm going to remove seven

::

minute freestyle from all

::

streaming services.

::

And that's my dog.

::

I'm going to stay out the

::

beef because I'm in a better place.

::

I have a peace of mind.

::

OK, cool.

::

Everybody was like, boo, Jake.

::

Oh, boo.

::

What the fuck?

::

How could you?

::

You disappointed hip hop

::

until these two

::

motherfuckers start really.

::

Yeah.

::

Yeah.

::

So now here's what here's

::

what it looks like.

::

Drake and J. Cole threw

::

shots at each other.

::

Drake was pushing at him first,

::

was pushing at Kendrick first,

::

baiting him, telling him to come out,

::

dropping a few verses on Instagram,

::

trying to bait the king to come out.

::

OK, Kendrick was just quiet.

::

So this is what it looks like.

::

The prelude to the beef was

::

first person shooter and like that.

::

OK, that was the prelude.

::

Now the main battle,

::

Drake puts out a song

::

called pushups where he's

::

telling Kendrick,

::

like he's coming at Kendrick and it's a,

::

it's a catchy tune.

::

He's telling him you need to top,

::

tell them top and give me 50.

::

You're going to give them 50 pushup,

::

do 50 pushup.

::

Kendrick was doing pushups

::

in another video.

::

He had posted.

::

It was a whole thing.

::

Okay.

::

Tell me side.

::

You got a size seven men's on.

::

I had to hike down.

::

He comes at Metro booming.

::

Cause Drake is currently

::

beefing with Metro booming future.

::

Rick Ross,

::

the weekend and Kendrick Lamar

::

and Kanye West.

::

So it's a long list.

::

It's a lot.

::

That's an incredible list.

::

And I feel like one of those

::

dudes will straight up eat you.

::

So you gotta be careful.

::

That is not a list of enemies.

::

You got it!

::

I knew it was a long enough

::

list where I was like, who's it gonna be?

::

And I wonder who he's gonna guess.

::

You got it.

::

That's who I was thinking of.

::

He'll literally eat you.

::

he looks like a man who is

::

like uh-huh go ahead say

::

something I'm gonna turn

::

you and into a whole bucket

::

of wings until you get a

::

wing stop and no one will

::

come and look for you I as

::

a fat man cannot just like

::

you know I mean I'm just

::

going I'm gonna let you have that one

::

That's fine.

::

All right, cool.

::

So everybody's still with me here, right?

::

I'm with you.

::

All right.

::

So Drake drops pushups.

::

Okay.

::

Out of pushups.

::

He then drops.

::

It's very interesting, right?

::

Because this whole thing,

::

what I want people to

::

remember is you have two of

::

the biggest in music

::

dropping consistently at

::

this rate that typically

::

does not happen in a week.

::

Yeah.

::

OK,

::

this is probably one of the biggest

::

beasts in hip hop that

::

we've had since like Jay-Z

::

and Nas type level ether type shit,

::

because these two giants in streaming,

::

in talent, in music,

::

you are not supposed to

::

drop music like this to this level.

::

And these are direct shots at each other.

::

Kendrick is blatantly out

::

loud just saying Drake on a record.

::

I'm calling you.

::

Drake is doing the same thing back.

::

Right.

::

Everybody's still with me.

::

OK.

::

Yeah.

::

So Drake put out a freestyle

::

on Instagram only called

::

the Taylor made freestyle.

::

And it was referenced for

::

Taylor Swift because, Oh, I missed this.

::

Okay.

::

He, in the record, he references, he says,

::

he says,

::

what did he say in the reference?

::

He says,

::

The only one that makes me

::

move around dates is Taylor Swift,

::

the real gangster, basically.

::

And so Taylor Swift is the

::

only person in the music

::

industry that I can move around.

::

And he was hinting at

::

Kendrick was not dropping

::

because Taylor's got his

::

car pooled and everybody's

::

car pooled because she's

::

just got that amount of pool.

::

understandable so it's

::

called taylor made

::

freestyle but what he did

::

in this freestyle everybody

::

still track with me here he

::

used ai and he wrote a

::

verse and recorded a verse

::

that sounded like tupac so

::

he used ai to use to get a

::

tupac voice or a voice

::

filter to rap like pop to kendrick

::

And he did the same thing

::

with Snoop Dogg on the second verse.

::

So first verse is Tupac,

::

but it's Drake writing, but it's Tupac.

::

And second verse is Snoop Dogg,

::

but that's still Drake.

::

And then the last verse is Drake.

::

So what he's doing is he's

::

using Kendrick's favorite rapper, Tupac,

::

to go at him and to take

::

away some of the things

::

that Kendrick would use as poison.

::

Is everybody with me here?

::

Yes,

::

the equivalent is getting Stanley to

::

show up at my house and go, hey,

::

I'm really disappointed in

::

everything that you are as a human being.

::

And then he just leaves.

::

But as he's leaving,

::

he takes off a mask and it's Mike Pence.

::

And you're like, what the fuck?

::

Yes, I'm sure.

::

I was going to say a robot, but sure,

::

Mike Pence.

::

He doesn't have anything

::

going on right now.

::

Brian, you show me a better robot.

::

Mike Pence is crazy.

::

What?

::

Then Mike Pence?

::

Why is he the best robot?

::

He's pretty stiff.

::

He calls his wife mother.

::

He most certainly does.

::

And you tell me that that's

::

not an AI mistake.

::

It's an AI mistake.

::

What do they call that?

::

It's not a...

::

A Freudian slip?

::

No, an Oedipus complex.

::

He uses that Kendrick or the

::

Tupac estate then goes at

::

Drake because you are using

::

Tupac's likeness.

::

If you use Prince or something like that,

::

the estate is going to come out.

::

They came at him and he took

::

down the TaylorMade Freestyle.

::

Okay?

::

After the TaylorMade

::

freestyle is taken down

::

because it's only on Instagram,

::

but it's gotten taken down

::

because the state is after him.

::

It's then Kendrick then

::

drops this song called Euphoria,

::

where in this song,

::

Kendrick deliberately

::

states this is just one of the lines.

::

I don't like you.

::

I don't like the way that you dress.

::

I don't like the way you talk.

::

I don't like the way you walk.

::

I just don't.

::

He just says this blatantly.

::

I don't like you.

::

Okay.

::

He drops Euphoria.

::

Euphoria is a smash hit.

::

He, Kendrick, then copies.

::

Mind you,

::

all Kendrick is doing is just

::

tweeting out the YouTube

::

link to these songs.

::

That's incredible.

::

No context, no nothing.

::

That's incredible.

::

While Drake is playing

::

internet games and trying

::

to get people to get on his

::

side by posting memes and

::

things of that nature.

::

Yeah.

::

Because that's the game

::

Drake can usually win at.

::

But with a lyricist, you can't do that.

::

So the next step,

::

Kendrick then drops a song

::

called 616 in LA because,

::

partially because,

::

because there's so many triple, double,

::

quadruple entendres.

::

He dropped 616 in L.A.

::

because Drake usually this

::

is Drake style of songs.

::

Drake usually drops a timestamp song.

::

So it's like 414 in London,

::

313 in Texas or blah, blah, blah.

::

And those are Drake's best songs.

::

Oh, man.

::

Okay.

::

Oh, I'm sorry.

::

Go ahead.

::

Any questions?

::

No, I'm just glad you're pointing.

::

I did not.

::

I would have not known that.

::

I did not know this part of the lore.

::

I'm very happy.

::

We're happy.

::

I did not either.

::

Kendrick is very strategic, right?

::

And so he drops that 616 in LA.

::

It's a fire song.

::

Okay.

::

And then Drake drops Family Matters.

::

So it's immediately he drops

::

Family Matters.

::

Okay.

::

And he drops like this Buried Alive song.

::

Drake was the first person

::

to take Kendrick Lamar on tour.

::

And on Drake's first album, Take Care,

::

there's a song called

::

Buried Alive that Kendrick

::

is featured on.

::

Drake duplicates the style

::

that Kendrick did on that

::

song to diss Kendrick.

::

And it's just only on Drake's Instagram.

::

So they do that.

::

But as Drake dropped, same night,

::

as Drake dropped Family

::

Matters and is buried alive, Kendrick,

::

six minutes later,

::

he dropped Meet the Grams,

::

where Kendrick goes and

::

addresses his Drake son Adonis, his mom,

::

his dad, and Drake on the song.

::

Basically saying,

::

your dad's a disappointment.

::

Listen to this when you turn 18.

::

I want to make sure you're a real king.

::

You'll always have somebody.

::

You can call me a mentor as

::

soon as you get ready.

::

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

::

Hey, and to Drake's mom,

::

your son's got some

::

addictions he's battling.

::

I think he's a piece of shit

::

and he needs to die because

::

men like him are so fucked up.

::

And then you have his dad.

::

He's telling his dad,

::

your son is a master manipulator.

::

You should have wore a condom.

::

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

::

I'm so disappointed in you.

::

He is going crazy.

::

kendrick went crazy this is

::

the song that that like I

::

feel like this is what blew

::

up my socials because I

::

think this happened set no

::

this happened friday night

::

yeah I think it was yes

::

because this is the song

::

that put me like on the

::

wavelength of like oh my

::

gosh yes and then I was

::

starting to try to

::

understand all of this like

::

I feel like this meet the

::

grams I feel like

::

I don't know.

::

It feels like this is like a

::

cross into mainstream for a lot of folks.

::

It's when you found out the beef was,

::

it's when a lot of people

::

found out the beef was real

::

because the other ones are kind of like,

::

it's Instagrammy, it's whatever,

::

it's whatever, euphoria.

::

But Meet the Grams is like a direct,

::

it's a direct shot at Drake, right?

::

And it was the same night.

::

As soon as Drake dropped,

::

Kendrick dropped a song in response.

::

That doesn't fucking happen.

::

And I don't know if people

::

actually realize that it's

::

either there was a leak in

::

Drake's camp or he just had

::

it ready to go,

::

but they were responding to

::

each other the whole time.

::

Right?

::

Everybody sit with me.

::

Well, yeah.

::

The other thing,

::

didn't Meet the Grams also,

::

didn't that also have the

::

thing about Drake having a

::

secret daughter?

::

Yes, a daughter.

::

Which is alleged.

::

Which is alleged,

::

and Drake said it's not true.

::

He said he baited him.

::

He said Drake is claiming he

::

baited Kendrick with fake

::

information because he knew

::

people were looking for information.

::

So he gave them

::

this fake idea that he had a daughter.

::

Okay.

::

And Kendrick ended up saying

::

that in the song, like, Oh,

::

you've got a daughter that

::

you don't want to raise, blah, blah, blah,

::

blah, blah.

::

Trying to duplicate what

::

happened with Adonis, his son.

::

Okay.

::

So that is,

::

and you'll have to go listen to

::

this music.

::

Cause I'm just explaining

::

the very high level and

::

things that stood out to me.

::

Absolutely.

::

Meet the grams.

::

Now here's what happened.

::

Meet the grams came out.

::

Drake got quiet.

::

And in a rap beef,

::

you cannot be quiet for too long.

::

Because here is what happened next.

::

He dropped that, I think Ryan is right,

::

that was on Friday,

::

Meet the Grams dropped.

::

On Saturday,

::

Kendrick Lamar did his victory

::

lap in the beef and

::

essentially put his seal on it,

::

which was Not Like Us,

::

produced by Mustard.

::

And anybody knows Mustard as a B,

::

like mustard on a B, ho.

::

It's like, this dude makes music,

::

like dancing shit, and it's...

::

Like this song, when you hear it,

::

the beginning of the song starts off.

::

He says, I see dead people.

::

And then the beat kicks off.

::

So you now have all Kendrick

::

has now basically dropped

::

meet the grams and not like

::

us in the span of two days.

::

And in the span of a weekend,

::

he has dropped four songs.

::

This was his victory lap.

::

This is the one that's popping on Tik TOK.

::

It's going to see, it feels like LA.

::

It's the one that's going to

::

be on the radio along with euphoria.

::

I guarantee it.

::

But then Drake responded

::

with his final song.

::

the heart part six because

::

Kendrick usually writes

::

that's a Kendrick thing

::

Kendrick writes all of

::

these songs called the

::

heart parts one through

::

five so Drake ended up

::

doing what Kendrick did and

::

duplicated it and in the song not like us

::

Kendrick has a lot of claims

::

that I don't know if it's true or not.

::

I'm just saying what the

::

claims are and maybe a

::

trigger warning here.

::

But he talks about Drake

::

being a either surrounding

::

himself with pedophiles and

::

Drake liking these younger women.

::

And it's a dangerous thing.

::

And like, oh, that's who you are.

::

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

::

All over this bouncy beat.

::

Right.

::

And it's like this beat you dance to.

::

And he's going to him directly saying,

::

I'm the boogeyman.

::

I'm the one that came out.

::

You tried to test me.

::

I'd shot the shot.

::

And he says all of these things.

::

Right.

::

He mentions Billy Bobby

::

Brown from Stranger Things by name.

::

Not like a hint.

::

I'm pretty sure, if I'm not mistaken,

::

he mentions her by name.

::

No, it's in the lyrics.

::

I just listened to it.

::

And Drake in the hard part

::

six is basically just defending.

::

It's hard because you've basically, to me,

::

in my opinion,

::

I was trying to save it until the end.

::

Drake loses because Kendrick

::

Kendrick was up so many and

::

was consistent and was

::

rapping while Drake was

::

trying to play these

::

different games and trying

::

to belittle him and like little boy him.

::

The issue is what the hard

::

part six is now has to be

::

used for him on the

::

defensive because he has to go and say,

::

he can't rap at Kendrick

::

anymore about rap shit.

::

You now have to go out there and say,

::

I'm not, I don't like younger women.

::

I'm not a pedophile.

::

Whether people believe it or not,

::

it's out there now forever.

::

And then that is what we got.

::

So we had one, two, three, four, five, six,

::

seven, eight, nine, technically 10, 11,

::

11 songs of two giants just going albums.

::

I was going to say,

::

they just need to make a double.

::

They just make an album

::

together and they got a

::

whole beef in two months.

::

Yes.

::

Thank you for that.

::

That was a long, that was a long time,

::

but that was kind of like

::

how I've been processing

::

this whole thing.

::

I'm glad that you,

::

I'm also glad you walked us

::

through that path because I,

::

since I started,

::

since I picked up at meet the grams,

::

I was only, I knew about euphoria kind of,

::

I did not know about Taylor made.

::

I knew there was a lyric from Taylor made.

::

that I found out but I

::

couldn't find the song now

::

I understand why and then I

::

saw the allusion to Tupac

::

and the allusion to Snoop

::

Dogg but I didn't know that

::

was all on TaylorMade which

::

is also so weird and

::

twisted because Kendrick

::

was featured on her song so

::

I like I didn't when I saw

::

some of the Taylor Swift stuff I was like

::

What are you trying to say here, man?

::

Like, are you, Drake, like, what are,

::

don't pull Taylor Swift into this.

::

This is not.

::

He did it twice, right?

::

Because he says in the song,

::

Drake says in the song, oh,

::

you're basically, your label,

::

you had to do whatever your

::

label made you do.

::

So when the room five needs a verse,

::

you need to make it witty.

::

And he says,

::

and then you need to go and make that,

::

you need to go and do that

::

feature song for all the Swifties.

::

He says that in pushups.

::

Oh, man.

::

Yeah.

::

So.

::

one thank you so much for

::

you did an outstanding job

::

yeah I am flabbergasted at

::

the lengths that two grown

::

men will go to insult one another

::

I mean, it's not even insults, though.

::

It's just so creative.

::

Do you understand?

::

If I'm having an argument

::

with somebody and they start saying shit,

::

like, you know what?

::

I'm going to call your dad

::

and tell him that he should

::

have wore a comic because

::

you never should have worn it.

::

I would have been like, well, fuck you,

::

and walked away.

::

You know what I mean?

::

I would have ran away

::

because of the fact that

::

these two just had the creative...

::

mind enough the two creative

::

minds you know whoever put

::

the whoever one aside but

::

like they had the brain

::

power to put all of this

::

like pen to paper I mean

::

it's fucking insane to me

::

like it's so wild to me

::

well and I I think for me

::

I've I've been in both

::

Drake and Kendrick's orbit

::

and I've listened to both

::

of their stuff but like

::

this really not that I'm

::

picking sides here but just

::

like the lyricism from Kendrick is

::

The speed of which it was

::

put out and it was good and

::

it was good quality

::

material is astounding to me.

::

I can never do that in a million years.

::

To me, when I listened to Meet the Grams,

::

it felt like there was just

::

this satellite in orbit

::

just nuking this small

::

island country over and

::

over and over again.

::

Yeah.

::

And it just, it just,

::

it feels so personal and it feels like it,

::

what it feels like, you know,

::

I've used the example before of like,

::

like sometimes these beefs are like, oh,

::

those two people are

::

arguing in the parking lot.

::

That is none of my business.

::

but this feels like this

::

feels even it just feels so

::

personal that kendrick's

::

directly addressing drake

::

all these songs and like it

::

and drake doesn't feel like

::

he's talking directly to

::

kendrick it feels like he's

::

trying to talk to a crowd

::

but like everything from

::

kendrick is so personal and

::

it makes me feel

::

uncomfortable but also

::

makes me like I don't know

::

I don't know the best way

::

to explain it that's just

::

his lyricism though all of

::

it yeah all of it yeah

::

They all have their strengths.

::

Here's the thing.

::

I have no dog in the fight.

::

I listen to Drake a lot

::

because I think he's easily consumable.

::

I still love Kendrick.

::

Cole is my favorite rapper

::

amongst the big three.

::

I see why Cole ducked out of this, though.

::

How smart does he look right now?

::

Remember how disappointed you were,

::

Marcus?

::

I remember that episode.

::

You came on and you were like,

::

I can't believe he did that.

::

Now I don't know what to do

::

with this information.

::

No, I think you, you made the right call.

::

Like that's smartest man in the room.

::

Yeah.

::

That's,

::

that's you seeing two people fight

::

at a party,

::

like just kind of looking at

::

each other and going, you know what?

::

I think I'm going to go home

::

just a little bit early

::

before whatever is about to

::

happen happens.

::

Yep.

::

Yep.

::

Just intuition.

::

And I respect.

::

Yep.

::

No, I mean,

::

he made out like a bandit

::

because regardless of what... Also,

::

I think the other thing

::

that he made out like... He

::

is totally safe from all this.

::

He made it out totally

::

invincible on this thing.

::

I shouldn't say totally invincible,

::

but like...

::

He bowed out,

::

and it was the exact right call.

::

The other thing that blows

::

my mind with this is, like,

::

people on... Like,

::

I picked some of this up on TikTok,

::

and you have people, like,

::

just busting a move and dancing.

::

And then you start listening

::

to some of the lyrics, and they're like,

::

certified lover boy, certified pedophile.

::

And I was like, excuse me, what?

::

And, like, people are just like, yeah,

::

I'm doing my TikTok dance.

::

And I'm like, these are, like,

::

some serious...

::

allegations that are being

::

thrown at each other

::

through music and like I

::

feel like that part is lost

::

on some people like I don't

::

know what to think of it

::

I'm not a lawyer I don't

::

know how much of this falls

::

under free speech and

::

what's libel or what's

::

music or what's

::

entertainment I don't I

::

don't know that but I know

::

that I wouldn't want that

::

if I was on the other end

::

of it slander is spoken print is libel

::

And all the streaming, like,

::

what you drop to YouTube is

::

sometimes safer on YouTube,

::

but you don't upload it to, like,

::

you can tell.

::

Some of these stuff they

::

can't upload to Spotify, Apple Music,

::

all that other stuff.

::

Some of the stuff they just

::

uploaded on their IG.

::

Like,

::

TaylorMadeFreestyle would have never

::

gotten approved to post, like,

::

you know what I mean?

::

Like, whether it had AI in it or not.

::

Like, some of that, you need copyrights.

::

And so, it's just nuts.

::

And these are two giants

::

that are going to change the game of,

::

and not to mention, Metro Boomin'.

::

He's been a part of this beef too as well.

::

And he put out like a,

::

they said Drake was getting

::

like BBL shots.

::

to get his end done and everything.

::

And so Metro Boomin made a

::

beat that just repeats.

::

It's a clean beat.

::

He made it a competition for

::

anybody that wants to rap.

::

And he's like, Bebe, how's it going?

::

Jesus Christ.

::

No, I'm not supporting anybody in this,

::

but I'm not going to lie.

::

Metro Boomin made a sick beat.

::

I have listened to it multiple times.

::

But then I'm like, is this cyberbullying?

::

I don't know.

::

I don't know.

::

This could all be made up.

::

I don't know.

::

But he did make an excellent beat.

::

Like,

::

I also thought when I saw that on Twitter,

::

I was like, oh, man, if I was Drake,

::

I would just like pitch

::

whatever I would just ditch

::

whatever I'm working on right now.

::

Take that beat.

::

And I would try to rap.

::

I would try to rap over that

::

beat back to Kendrick and

::

try to make it my own.

::

But that that didn't that didn't happen.

::

And the hard part six came

::

out Sunday and that that

::

was that was kind of it.

::

Marcus,

::

we have a comment in the chat I

::

need to bring up.

::

What tier of Patreon do I

::

need to have Marcus write

::

and rap a diss track?

::

We gotta figure out that tier.

::

That's a low tier.

::

Who's he dissing?

::

That's the question.

::

The thing you have to pay

::

for in the Patreon tier is

::

not the rap itself.

::

I write that shit with my eyes closed.

::

The thing you gotta pay for

::

is to find out who I'm fucking dissing.

::

You pay that tier,

::

every month I will diss a

::

different motherfucker.

::

Don't you worry.

::

We need like a rival podcast.

::

Like a Films in Red and Blue or something.

::

Films in Red and Blue.

::

They're only 3D.

::

They take a very

::

conservative take on just

::

about everything.

::

They're just constantly

::

complaining everybody's not

::

white in the movies.

::

It's very clean.

::

I was really disappointed

::

that the Society of Magical

::

Negroes didn't have more

::

white people in it.

::

I would definitely be for

::

those motherfuckers.

::

Also,

::

I have a feeling he's just going to

::

pay you and you're going to

::

end up writing it because

::

that's what this comment

::

leaves me to believe.

::

Which means in about two

::

weeks I'm going to have a

::

diss track that's wrapped

::

in my face on this podcast.

::

Because he's going to make

::

me put it towards you.

::

Brian singing BBO and Tracy.

::

I am.

::

It's been stuck in my head all day.

::

It's a good beat.

::

Metro Boomin knows what he's doing.

::

Drake told him to do drums.

::

Careful what you wish for.

::

Brian.

::

Now that we've got that thoroughly covered,

::

care to run us down the

::

update on what's happening with Patreon?

::

With Paramount and Sony?

::

Yes.

::

Anyway,

::

we're switching gears here now from

::

Drake and Kendrick to Paramount and Sony.

::

And we did talk a little bit

::

about this last week on the pod,

::

but more news has come out.

::

So for those of you that are

::

following the streaming wars,

::

as I like to call them,

::

Paramount has now formally

::

opened negotiations with a

::

group that is Sony Pictures

::

and an investment private

::

equity giant called Apollo.

::

And essentially,

::

that group is making a

::

serious bid to take over Paramount.

::

Sony is a giant.

::

They are Spider-Man.

::

I will get a list of their movies.

::

You've seen their movies.

::

Morbius, Kraven the Hunter.

::

The big ones, you guys.

::

They're the big ones.

::

Anyone but you.

::

Yeah, like the Uncharted movies.

::

They're a pretty significant player.

::

Please, for the love of God,

::

Google a Sony movie that's

::

better than the ones you just listed.

::

Because basically you're like,

::

wait a minute.

::

They're known for all the hits.

::

You know,

::

anyone but you hold the banana peel.

::

Half eaten apple core.

::

Crash was good.

::

Excuse you.

::

Anyone but you was fine.

::

It was good.

::

I do need to watch that though.

::

uh no but we're talking

::

we're talking no hard

::

feelings we're talking

::

bullet train okay um thank

::

you thank you those are

::

dumb money if you followed

::

that um is there anything

::

like money playing

::

No,

::

Dumb Money talks about it's basically

::

like it's how the GameStop

::

stock artificially got inflated.

::

People were buying in on that.

::

But yeah, so you know Sony movies.

::

Just going to put that out there.

::

um so anyway the current

::

state of affairs with with

::

paramount and paramount

::

plus essentially is that

::

this group has offered 26

::

billion dollars billion

::

with a b as in brian one of

::

the hosts here uh for

::

paramount the entirety of

::

paramount 26 billion dollars cash so

::

And if you were like, wow,

::

I thought Paramount was

::

like in a rough spot with debt.

::

You're right.

::

They have about 14 billion

::

with a B in debt.

::

So this deal clears all that

::

debt and it puts all of

::

those shareholders in the

::

positive $26 billion,

::

which is a lot of money for

::

Nickelodeon MTV, CBS, Paramount pictures,

::

Paramount plus like,

::

All, everything.

::

So it's a pretty significant

::

development that they've offered,

::

$26 billion.

::

And so I'm saying it's

::

probably more likely than

::

not this is going to happen

::

because it clears all the debt.

::

And also the board has a,

::

I'm going to drop some

::

investment terms here,

::

fiduciary responsibility,

::

if you're not familiar with that term.

::

You can't do that in public.

::

I know what it is.

::

Doug, what is it?

::

So it means that they have a

::

duty to act in the

::

investor's best interest.

::

Bingo.

::

Yep.

::

So basically... I'm probably

::

in one of the hot water bags.

::

No, no hot water bags here.

::

Just $26 billion.

::

So anyway,

::

they're going to look at this

::

deal and be like, yeah,

::

I would like $26 billion.

::

I'm not even mad about it.

::

I don't feel great about it, but I mean,

::

anyway.

::

Thank you.

::

Now we're in a spot where if

::

this deal does go through,

::

the federal regulators are

::

definitely going to step in because Sony,

::

for those that don't know,

::

is a foreign owned company

::

outside the United States.

::

They're a Japanese company

::

and you can't have a

::

foreign owned company own a

::

broadcasting company,

::

which is why Apollo

::

Investments is involved.

::

They're basically the U.S.

::

buffer.

::

So that this is all looking

::

more and more inevitable

::

that Paramount is going to get bought.

::

And that's where we're at.

::

Jesus Christ.

::

Holy shit.

::

A lot of money.

::

That's a lot of money to be

::

just slinging around.

::

I mean, for me, it's game over.

::

Like you have you have

::

somebody that's willing to

::

wipe out your debt and then

::

put you in the black.

::

It's over.

::

They're cooked.

::

yeah I i also think it's

::

important that people

::

understand that like movies

::

don't they don't just have

::

like a big bank account

::

where all the money that

::

they need to have to like

::

basically they borrow money

::

just like we would to buy a

::

car or a house oh yeah

::

they're buying they're

::

borrowing 80 million

::

dollars to make morbius

::

like that's what they

::

borrowed money to make like

::

so and then they hope that

::

through advertising through

::

ticket sales that they make

::

enough money back that they

::

can pay off that debt and

::

have money left over

::

So they end up being in the positives.

::

That's why when we talk

::

about the way in which

::

movies are made and we say like, okay,

::

wow, the box office was this,

::

they broke even.

::

That means they paid that

::

loan back and that was it.

::

And more.

::

Yeah.

::

Yep, they paid that loan back,

::

and that was it,

::

which is why when we say

::

they have $14 billion in debt,

::

that kind of made me go, holy shit,

::

really?

::

Like, that's a lot of debt.

::

That's a lot of debt.

::

That's the reported debt,

::

and obviously that can fluctuate.

::

But, I mean,

::

there are billions and

::

billions of dollars in debt

::

because they made some bad

::

– they made some choices.

::

Let's just say that.

::

Brian,

::

through your reporting and

::

investigating... I don't

::

know why I said reporting.

::

Like,

::

you talked to someone from Paramount.

::

I'm on the ground.

::

Did you know... Is this

::

going to be like a...

::

like a Disney Fox merger or

::

is Paramount still going to operate?

::

Just they are owned by Tony.

::

Do we,

::

do you have any indication on that

::

at all?

::

And if you don't, I'm just curious.

::

So I'm pulling this from the

::

New York times piece that, that came out,

::

um, on, on Sunday here, Sunday, May 5th.

::

Um, we're recording this Monday, May 6th.

::

Um, so there isn't,

::

Yeah, I know, right?

::

So there's no indication here.

::

I know,

::

I'm just giving all the secrets away.

::

There's no indication that

::

there'd be an old guard

::

standing by for Paramount.

::

It very much looks like

::

they're going to buy everything outright,

::

gut it,

::

and replace it with the... Essentially,

::

they would replace it with

::

these Apollo investment people,

::

which would definitely make me nervous.

::

But...

::

it's what Sony would have to

::

do since they can't have

::

the full controlling stake

::

in that company due to us law.

::

So it's, I think it would be,

::

I think it's going to be

::

like a giant court case thing.

::

That'll take over a year.

::

Like when the deal goes through.

::

Yeah.

::

But it looks like all that

::

paramount leadership would be gone.

::

And whoever's in Apollo, good luck.

::

You get to run a media empire now.

::

the thing with like handing

::

over all that money to like

::

whoever this new person in

::

charge is is like they can

::

go in a complete different

::

direction well with all of

::

these you know what I mean

::

like they're not obligated

::

to anything or keeping

::

anything that we know or

::

knew or like whatever

::

No, and I mean,

::

we've seen this before when

::

an investment firm takes

::

over any business, right?

::

They're just looking at the

::

bottom line like nothing is sacred.

::

Like, they're just going to try to find,

::

like,

::

how can we make the most money in

::

the quickest way possible?

::

And we're going to just keep

::

getting Sonic sequels or, like, you know,

::

Maverick movies.

::

And we've complained on this

::

podcast about HBO Max and

::

David Zaslav and his quest to...

::

pay like make money back and

::

to be a to get to debt zero

::

right like and he'll do

::

whatever it takes so I mean

::

it's a legitimate concern

::

marcus that you kind of

::

bring up like they could

::

legitimately have something

::

several things that are

::

completely completed can

::

them and write them off and

::

say oh a hundred percent

::

and they're gonna do that

::

like that's that's going to

::

happen uh yeah and so it's

::

just a matter which movies

::

is it gonna be and that's

::

disappointing because there

::

are people... That piece

::

they got is crazy.

::

Yes, absolutely.

::

There's a lot of folks who

::

worked really hard on those,

::

which is disappointing.

::

I mean,

::

the good news would be that

::

Paramount would... I mean,

::

this new group... Sony's

::

not in debt a whole ton.

::

They wouldn't be bringing a

::

whole ton of debt with them,

::

so they probably wouldn't

::

go into a Batgirl situation,

::

but I don't see them...

::

it's very possible that some of those,

::

some of those more

::

independent projects like,

::

like operation lioness, um,

::

some of those other

::

originals probably maybe halo.

::

They just don't,

::

they just don't go forward

::

if they weren't bringing in

::

major numbers.

::

Um, yeah, that's wild.

::

That's wild.

::

We'll see.

::

I guess we'll only be able

::

to see when it gets finalized.

::

Maybe we'll be back next

::

week saying it did get finalized.

::

We'll have an exact amount.

::

We'll see.

::

Stuff moves pretty quickly.

::

It does,

::

and I'm not confirming it here on

::

this podcast for anybody that's like, ah,

::

Brian Rash confirmed it.

::

I'm not confirming it,

::

but I don't see what

::

Matthew can do on a

::

whiteboard that you can be like, no,

::

this deal's bad for us.

::

You've got someone willing

::

to take all your debt and

::

then send you on the best

::

payday of your life.

::

I can't lie.

::

I don't know the man I would

::

become if somebody offered that to me.

::

I'll clear your debt and

::

whatever the case may be, I'll be like,

::

all right, man, listen.

::

I'll do something strange

::

for a piece of change, man.

::

That's it.

::

I want to meet the person.

::

Also,

::

I would share bruised ankle pics of

::

myself for that kind of change.

::

Absolutely.

::

You like black yams?

::

How about white yams that

::

have been bumped into by a bike pedal?

::

Ooh, that's my shit.

::

Cleat feet.

::

Oh, man.

::

Cleat feet.

::

How about them ebony yams, huh?

::

Ivory yams.

::

I also want to meet the person that's like,

::

hey, where do you get your movie news?

::

I don't know.

::

There's a guy in a

::

Spider-Man sweatshirt that

::

told me that this thing was a lock.

::

Like...

::

Do you know the term

::

fiduciary responsibility?

::

No, I don't.

::

Where'd you hear about it?

::

I don't know.

::

Some movie podcast.

::

These two knuckleheads who

::

were talking about yams.

::

They switched from yams,

::

but there's helpful information in there.

::

You got to weed through the yams.

::

You got to take what you need.

::

If we weren't an independent podcast,

::

we'd be having a producer being like, hey,

::

stop talking about yams.

::

You got to move about angles here.

::

what's the name of our

::

producer again because

::

she's always gina I i

::

nicknamed her gina I don't

::

know she's like

::

disappointed but supportive

::

you know she's like I'm not

::

I'm not big fan of y'all

::

talking about your feet but

::

there's finder.com our

::

angel investor absolutely

::

is so he's wants more of

::

that that was part of the

::

oscar that's part of the

::

arrangement the angel yeah um

::

Awesome.

::

Brian, thank you for sharing.

::

That's going to be really interesting.

::

Thanks, Brian.

::

Great job.

::

No problem.

::

I'm excited to see how it turns out.

::

Doug,

::

I hear you have some news to bring

::

about Jerry Seinfeld.

::

I have beef with Jerry Seinfeld.

::

Not you shouldn't be born beef,

::

but beef nonetheless.

::

Not I hate the way that you walk.

::

Not that I hate the way that you talk.

::

You know how much you gotta

::

hate a motherfucker to say

::

I hate the way that you walk?

::

It was not even like,

::

it was like separate verses.

::

It was just like a full run

::

on sentence of him just,

::

I hate the way you talk,

::

I hate the way you look,

::

I hate the way you dress,

::

I hate the way you dress.

::

It just listed it.

::

That's my whole existence.

::

I can't change some of that shit.

::

I can't change anything.

::

now I have been on record as

::

a comedian's apologist

::

right like I generally will

::

say hey it crossed a line

::

but that's kind of a

::

comedian's job like and I

::

would even say to a certain

::

extent like comedy shows

::

push the envelope a little

::

bit because it is a game of

::

the absurd like it's a game

::

of the absurd playing off

::

the straight man doing sort

::

of these situations that

::

are that way that's the

::

reason why I like it's

::

always sunny in

::

Philadelphia is the way in

::

which this works

::

So Jerry Seinfeld is on a

::

was on about a week ago,

::

was on a tour for his

::

latest movie called Unfrosted.

::

More on that in a moment,

::

which is which is on which is on Netflix,

::

which is a movie that is

::

set in the 60s and is a

::

story of how the Pop-Tart got made.

::

Oh, OK.

::

Got it.

::

OK.

::

Yeah.

::

I didn't know about this.

::

Yep.

::

Yeah.

::

But while he was on this

::

like to like while he was

::

on this like press tour,

::

he kind of said some stuff

::

that made a lot of folks

::

sort of raise their eyebrows and go like,

::

hey, what are you talking about, man?

::

So here's the quote.

::

Now I'm pulling it like sort

::

of a he said it on an

::

interview with The New Yorker.

::

I'm pulling it from a CNN article.

::

But here's the quote.

::

Um, it would be,

::

you would go home at the end of the day.

::

Most people would go, Oh, cheers is on.

::

Oh, mash is on.

::

Oh,

::

Mary Tyler Moore is on all in the

::

family is on.

::

You just expected there'd be

::

some funny stuff we can

::

watch on TV tonight.

::

Well, guess what?

::

Where is it?

::

This is the result of the

::

extreme left and PC crap

::

and people worrying so much

::

about offending other people.

::

Now they're going to go see

::

standup comics because

::

we're not policed by anyone.

::

What the fuck are you talking about?

::

Yeah,

::

that's kind of my knee-jerk reaction.

::

Like, what decade do you think it is?

::

Like it's not TV.

::

Is he watching?

::

Right.

::

Like, do you not have a,

::

do you only have like basic cable?

::

Cause yeah, most of that's pretty shitty.

::

Not going to lie to you.

::

Like watch 20,

::

watch three episodes of big

::

bang theory back to back.

::

Oh, it's not going to go well for anyone.

::

Um, so no,

::

like there's part of it where I'm like,

::

what are you,

::

what are you trying to get at here?

::

Um,

::

And I really just take

::

umbrage with the issue of, like, come on,

::

man.

::

Like, you don't watch anything else?

::

Like, go... Again,

::

not to try to point to...

::

And this was a point that Rob McElhaney,

::

one of the creators of It's

::

Always Sunny in Philadelphia, goes,

::

you clearly haven't watched

::

our show at all.

::

Because...

::

much of that on there you

::

haven't watched anything

::

like so if the point is hey

::

there aren't good sitcoms

::

anymore I think that's

::

because we as a people like

::

a group of people in our

::

society kind of went like

::

hey like we don't need to

::

do that anymore right

::

Yeah, we don't need to.

::

Which part?

::

The sitcom part.

::

Yeah, the sitcom part.

::

We don't need to collectively say... Look,

::

don't get me wrong.

::

Steinfeld had its place.

::

I still think some of it is

::

still funny to me to this day.

::

There have been... Modern

::

Family is a great example,

::

but I don't know if I would

::

call that a sitcom.

::

Right.

::

It's hard for me how I categorize things.

::

There's just pieces of this

::

where I'm like...

::

you just kind of sound,

::

sound like a guy that's like, Hey,

::

get off my lawn.

::

Like, and it's just a hundred percent.

::

And, and also this, like the PC stuff,

::

I think we've all evolved

::

to a certain point that like,

::

if sitcoms are trying to

::

appeal to a mass audience,

::

they need to make everybody

::

feel welcome or otherwise

::

they don't work.

::

Like then they are the

::

direct antithesis of what a

::

sitcom is supposed to do.

::

A sitcom is supposed to like,

::

I'm be able to sit down and

::

everybody across the

::

country is able to sit down

::

and enjoy it and find

::

something relatable to it.

::

So I don't understand like

::

what's the critique here?

::

Like, Oh,

::

no one's making sitcoms that

::

alienate anyone anymore.

::

Yeah.

::

Yeah.

::

Probably because we all agree that one,

::

it's not in our best

::

interest as a society to

::

put that stuff forward.

::

Two,

::

people have realized that for better

::

or for worse,

::

inclusion and seeing

::

yourself in that family

::

gets more people to watch,

::

which newsflash.

::

makes more money for the

::

studio putting it on like

::

there's so many other

::

things here that just feels

::

like stupid mark if you do

::

hand up yeah I have

::

questions and maybe

::

somebody can help me

::

process a little bit for

::

people that say this

::

comment like the pc crowd

::

the pc crowd the pc crowd

::

oh yeah what type of jokes

::

are you wanting to hear or

::

that you're cracking that

::

you feel as if right ain't

::

being said enough because

::

what exactly are you looking for

::

That's a fucking great question, isn't it?

::

Like, that's a great question.

::

And he specifically mentions, like,

::

MASH and, like, I cannot recall.

::

Mary Tyler Moore, All in the Family,

::

Cheers.

::

Like,

::

what about that era is it that you

::

want to joke from?

::

Right.

::

That's my question, too.

::

Also, to me, to me,

::

and I'm not saying this is to me.

::

Remember that.

::

Them shows was white as...

::

And they weren't the most

::

inclusive TV back then.

::

Because the running joke in

::

MASH was this guy

::

pretending to be a woman to

::

get out of the military.

::

But still, all of that to say,

::

the shows were so

::

non-inclusive to a point

::

that the Black people had

::

to go to BET and do Living Single.

::

We had to create alternative options.

::

That's just for Black people.

::

I understand the whole PC thing.

::

I do understand as a comic,

::

maybe you don't know which

::

landmine to step on.

::

Maybe you don't know how to tell.

::

Maybe you don't know how to tell.

::

Maybe you should develop a

::

new way to tell some jokes

::

that ain't just about offending anybody.

::

You can tell the truth.

::

I do know that there are

::

comics out there that can

::

make a very good joke in a

::

very smart way that doesn't

::

offend anybody, but it just opens up

::

Like, some type of level of thinking,

::

you know what I mean?

::

Well, and I think...

::

standup comedy is a little bit,

::

I agree with you, Marcus.

::

I think standup comedy is a

::

little bit different, right?

::

Because I'm there and it's

::

my responsibility as the comedian to, to,

::

to sort of take you on this

::

journey with me of, I make you feel safe.

::

I make you feel like this is

::

a place where you can relax

::

and you can laugh.

::

And as I start to get into

::

my set and I get in deeper

::

and deeper and deeper,

::

I start pushing the

::

envelope a little bit to

::

see how you respond.

::

Like that's my job as a

::

comic is I'm responsible for,

::

for the people in that room

::

if you watch a comedian

::

none of them walk out and

::

go let me tell you three

::

things about my dick you

::

didn't know they always

::

start with hey this is a

::

weird city hey this is

::

here's a weird thing that

::

happened to me while I was getting here

::

Hey,

::

here's the thing that happened to me

::

at work the other day.

::

Those are entry points to start to say,

::

like, see, I'm just like you.

::

And then as they get towards the end,

::

that's when they usually

::

start to switch and start talking about,

::

you know,

::

their sex life or their

::

relationship or their marriage,

::

because they've all

::

everybody's with them.

::

Like, yep, you got me.

::

Keep going.

::

You got me.

::

Keep going.

::

Yep.

::

And you can't really do that

::

anymore because people's

::

attention spans are short.

::

One,

::

it's hard to do that in a masterfully

::

in a sitcom style format, first of all.

::

But Marcus, to your point, yeah.

::

What joke are you trying to tell?

::

So I've watched just about

::

every episode of Seinfeld

::

probably two or three times.

::

I haven't actually sat down

::

and done the math,

::

but it's my go-to show when

::

I want to shut my brain off.

::

And most of those jokes are...

::

Like about Jerry's relationship,

::

which are usually involving

::

someone talking about like sex,

::

how they're trying to get sex,

::

how they're trying to get better at sex,

::

about how something weird

::

is happening with dating.

::

Like that's one plot line.

::

There's a few episodes of a

::

routine running through

::

line where it was like,

::

we can't really talk about

::

anyone who might be gay or

::

might be different because

::

they don't gel with the

::

group that is the four of

::

them in the show because

::

the four of them in the

::

show are straight white people.

::

So anything outside of that

::

is a little bit foreign and weird.

::

There's a whole line.

::

There is a whole episode

::

where they think Elaine is

::

dating a black person, like a light skin,

::

but it's never like a black, black person,

::

like a light skin, black person.

::

And they keep saying over

::

and over and over again,

::

they keep going like,

::

I don't feel like we should

::

be talking about this.

::

So they're not like

::

comfortable talking about it.

::

Yeah.

::

So yeah,

::

What joke are we trying to

::

what joke are we trying to say?

::

Like,

::

what joke are we trying to tell here?

::

Because some of the jokes

::

are like they haven't aged well.

::

There's an episode where Jerry is dating.

::

There's an episode where

::

Jerry is dating a masseuse.

::

Yep.

::

And the masseuse will give

::

everyone a massage but him.

::

So one night he has to like

::

trick her into giving him a massage.

::

But the whole like through

::

line underneath is like,

::

this feels very like it's an allegory for,

::

I'm going to force you to

::

touch me in a way I want you to.

::

And we're all supposed to

::

sort of like laugh about it.

::

And I think if you tried to make that now,

::

people would be like, Ooh,

::

that's really close to

::

talking about race.

::

So like, are we, so again, Jerry,

::

Do you want us to make more

::

light-handed rape jokes?

::

Because I don't think those

::

are in good taste for 7.30 on a Thursday.

::

I just, I don't know, man.

::

I've seen a lot of comedies.

::

I've seen a lot of stand-ups.

::

Yes.

::

And I have seen some very

::

crude and rough jokes.

::

I'm not going to say necessarily offensive,

::

but to define the term,

::

Tina Fey talks about it in her book,

::

and I'm going to use that definition.

::

A rough joke might be like,

::

Something like saying a

::

truth about some type of

::

racial injustice.

::

Like, oh, that's a rough joke,

::

but it's true.

::

Or like there's some element

::

of truth to it.

::

And it might make you uncomfortable,

::

but it's not necessarily like...

::

It's still a joke.

::

I'll give you an example, Brian.

::

So on Weekend Update this past weekend,

::

Michael Che made a comment

::

about how there was a

::

picture of Donald Trump,

::

and Michael Che said, well,

::

I can't – Donald Trump is

::

complaining that none of

::

his fans or supporters are in the –

::

courtroom with him as he's

::

on trial and then he goes

::

what is he talking about

::

look at all those police

::

standing behind him like

::

that is a that's a great

::

example of a rough joke

::

where there might be some

::

level of truth to that but

::

it's it kind of makes you

::

go like and even the

::

audience was like uh that's

::

a great example I'm a big

::

fan of a smart joke

::

You know what I mean?

::

An intelligent joke that

::

does bear... Because the

::

thing about comedy,

::

it's got to bear a little

::

truth in order to hurt.

::

It's going to hurt a little bit.

::

It's going to bear a little truth.

::

But if you can do it well,

::

then you can do... I feel

::

like a lot of older comics

::

just are not moving with

::

the fucking times.

::

That's like the most basic

::

thing I think is happening.

::

It's the same generation of

::

comics that are complaining about like,

::

oh,

::

we can't say whatever the fuck we want

::

to anymore.

::

Why the fuck would you...

::

Like, you know what I mean?

::

Like in a more diverse world,

::

why the fuck would you want

::

– why can't you challenge

::

yourself to maybe do better?

::

Also, really quick.

::

Sorry, I want to jump in.

::

Sorry, Brian.

::

I'll cut to you.

::

Do it.

::

You're actively an adult.

::

Say whatever the fuck you want to say.

::

That's true.

::

There's the consequences for it.

::

That's right.

::

Free speech is the freedom

::

not to just insult whoever you want to.

::

It's the consequences that come behind it.

::

Now, you say some foul ass shit,

::

you should expect a

::

slapping to come out of

::

nowhere to correct or something.

::

If I go to your show and you

::

tell a joke or a series of

::

jokes that I don't think is funny,

::

I'm not going to go to your

::

fucking show again.

::

And I might boo you and tweet about it.

::

And it's really easy.

::

I am a consumer.

::

Not to say it's a,

::

I'm not trying to make this

::

like a dance monkey for my

::

enjoyment type of scenario,

::

but you chose to be in an art form

::

Like this isn't divine intervention.

::

No one said like you have to

::

be a comic so you can go like there.

::

You made a choice to have

::

that be your line of work.

::

Yeah.

::

And yes, as a as a as a as a portrayer,

::

I have to honor that by not

::

talking when you're when

::

you're going through it,

::

like trying to make you know what I mean?

::

Like there's there's an

::

arrangement here of me as a

::

viewer and you as the comedian.

::

But part of that arrangement

::

is if I don't think it's funny,

::

I don't have to laugh.

::

And two,

::

I don't have to come to a joke

::

when you do a set at a comedy club again.

::

Like I just I get to choose with that.

::

So go ahead.

::

Say whatever the fuck you want to say.

::

Write whatever show you want to write,

::

Jerry.

::

Seriously, write it.

::

But don't be surprised when

::

people don't watch it, because after all,

::

if you're an artist and I

::

believe comedy is an art form.

::

Art is valued by the people

::

who are willing to consume it.

::

If I am not willing to consume it,

::

it might still be art to you,

::

but it's not art to me and

::

I don't want to participate in it.

::

Go ahead, Brian.

::

I think you make a great

::

point of just just to kind of close,

::

close that up or put a put a bow on it.

::

I mean,

::

like if you can't engage and adapt

::

with the times and realize like,

::

you know what?

::

I may not know the current

::

status of the vibe with

::

current people going to comedy shows.

::

Maybe that says something

::

about me and looking introspective.

::

you know have some

::

introspection that would be

::

a good path to go down but

::

instead he's like literally

::

blaming everyone else why

::

he no one finds him funny

::

and I think that's so wild

::

to me because you have

::

Larry David who wrote

::

Seinfeld who I would say is

::

equally as responsible for

::

Seinfeld success as Jerry

::

Seinfeld is and Larry David

::

kept writing he wrote Curb

::

Your Enthusiasm and

::

which to me is not like

::

censored or like safe.

::

I think I want to say like,

::

there's some really rough,

::

there's some rough episodes

::

of really rough episodes.

::

I think is a good way to put it.

::

I mean, and to even talk about,

::

I don't even understand

::

what the radical left has

::

to do with any of this.

::

That was my next point.

::

I just don't understand what that means.

::

Stop blaming.

::

The radical left isn't

::

censoring things because 10 years ago,

::

I was watching It's Always

::

Sunny in Philadelphia and

::

the main plot point was

::

trying to pick up a girl at

::

an abortion rally, which...

::

I haven't seen anything like that since,

::

you know,

::

there's a man in there named

::

rickety cricket who actively,

::

every time he shows up towards the,

::

like in the middle episodes goes,

::

that'll be $5 to stick

::

anything in me or have me

::

stick anything anywhere else.

::

That is a line from the show.

::

So like, let's, let's not hear like, well,

::

like you're the radical left.

::

Is it like, we got to censor everything.

::

Cause Hey,

::

They like to laugh too, motherfuckers.

::

I don't get it.

::

Are you just trying to say

::

you want more Mary Tyler Moore?

::

Because that's fine.

::

It was a fine show.

::

There's plenty of reboots, Jerry.

::

To say that stuff is getting

::

censored by some magical

::

group because it's

::

offensive is just simply not true.

::

I've watched a comedy

::

special about John Mulaney

::

doing cocaine in a bathroom

::

off of the child changing station.

::

what is wrong with you jerry

::

like you're clearly not

::

paying attention which by

::

the way john mulaney's

::

latest netflix special

::

right a great oh yeah great

::

time um about his battle

::

with drugs baby jay like so

::

I don't know jerry seinfeld

::

clearly needs to like go

::

outside and take a walk I'm

::

not really sure what's happened there

::

Well, I could tell you another thing.

::

This is the other thing I

::

was going to mention,

::

and I'll make it quick.

::

He really maybe should think

::

about movies he makes.

::

Why is that?

::

I know I've been shitting

::

all over like Jerry

::

Seinfeld for like 20 minutes.

::

It's OK.

::

We're going to keep going.

::

The movie Unfrosted.

::

Brittany and I watched it this weekend.

::

How was that for you?

::

Not great.

::

It was not great, you guys.

::

It was goddamn liberal leftist.

::

You know what I am?

::

I'm a part of the fucking problem.

::

That's what I am.

::

I just didn't get it.

::

But I think I just didn't

::

get it is really the best

::

way to sum up this movie.

::

Now,

::

not the movies about the star didn't

::

get it.

::

That's not that level I didn't get it.

::

I just couldn't tell this whole time

::

Because it feels like Jerry,

::

it feels like Unfrosted is

::

trying to make fun of

::

Kellogg's for making the Pop-Tart.

::

Okay.

::

But I can't tell,

::

is it based off of a true story?

::

Is it not?

::

I mean, the cast in it is phenomenal.

::

Everybody is in this.

::

Let me pull up the cast quick,

::

because this is insane, this cast.

::

I remember when you were like, oh yeah,

::

Unfrosted, and I did a quick Google of it,

::

and I was like, this is so many people.

::

It's a lot of people.

::

So it's...

::

let me pull it up it's jerry

::

seinfeld it's jim gaffigan

::

it's melissa mccarthy those

::

are the three like those

::

are the three hugh grant

::

Yes.

::

So, yes.

::

So here it is.

::

It's Jerry Seinfeld, Christian Slater,

::

Jim Gaffigan, Hugh Grant, Kyle Mooney,

::

Mikey Day, Patrick Warburton,

::

Max Greenfield, Amy Schumer.

::

And then there's a bunch of other ones,

::

too,

::

that are like there's there are other

::

like smaller characters.

::

So, yeah.

::

So it's just, it's wild to me.

::

Like a lot.

::

Cedric, the entertainers in this.

::

Yes.

::

Cedric, the entertainers in this, um,

::

Bobby Moynihan, James Marsden, um,

::

$5 haircuts in it.

::

So like Tony Hale.

::

So it has like everybody is this,

::

this movie, um,

::

but it just, it's what I don't, I,

::

I just remember watching it

::

and getting like,

::

cause it's only about an

::

hour and a half and it's on Netflix.

::

I remember getting like

::

about an hour in and I

::

looked at Brittany and I went,

::

I missing something.

::

And she goes, yeah, I think I am too.

::

I'm like, is this a joke?

::

Is it serious?

::

Like I can't,

::

like I can't tell whether or

::

not it's a joke or not.

::

And so I just,

::

it was really hard for me to

::

consume and understand it's on Netflix.

::

So, I mean,

::

if you have an afternoon to kill, um,

::

it's only an hour and a half

::

so that might be that might

::

be an even worse review

::

recommendation than rebel

::

moon part two and I'm not

::

even joking and we were so

::

hard on rebel moon part two

::

and you're just like but

::

even we were like even we

::

were we were like well the

::

action sequences are cool

::

yeah I'm like I mean this

::

is I mean how fancy can a

::

movie get about a goddamn dried pastry

::

Look, I think this had potential.

::

I'm going to watch it.

::

I'm going to hate watch it now.

::

But like this had potential.

::

Like you have this these

::

many stars talking about

::

the creation of the Pop-Tart.

::

It feels like a pretty fertile ground.

::

I have some good comedic

::

bits in a time period.

::

But like from what Doug is saying,

::

it just kind of sounds like

::

it barely draws a heartbeat.

::

What genre is that?

::

Of like the origin story of Pop-Tarts,

::

Cheetos.

::

Like a biopic?

::

A fake biopic?

::

And that's the thing.

::

It's the dialogue.

::

The situations that they're in

::

are funny.

::

Like here,

::

here's one example towards the

::

beginning of the movie and

::

I'm not giving anything away.

::

They have awards,

::

like they have the serial

::

awards and they call them the spoonies.

::

Like, and it's between,

::

because the whole thing is

::

about this competition

::

between Kellogg's and post.

::

And that's where Cedric,

::

the entertainer is.

::

He plays the MC giving out the awards.

::

Um, and it's sort of like, Oh, cool.

::

But is that like, are those real?

::

Are they not real?

::

Like they, cause they feel made up,

::

but you're all right.

::

There's no moment of anyone

::

looking at the camera being like,

::

this is funny, right?

::

It's all... Everybody's

::

doing the most taking

::

themselves seriously.

::

Right.

::

And the performers are great.

::

I just think there's

::

something about the

::

delivery and the way it was written,

::

to be honest.

::

Yeah, it sounds like...

::

Sounds like you got your

::

head in the wrong business.

::

Sounds like you need to stop

::

worrying about what's too

::

PC and worry about them roles.

::

I'm only mad at you right now.

::

Honestly, I don't know you like that.

::

I don't really care.

::

I'm not a big fan of Seinfeld.

::

I used to watch it because

::

it was like the longest

::

running TV show and the

::

only thing on it like four

::

in the fucking morning

::

where they do five episodes

::

back to back to back.

::

Yep.

::

but I just think stop

::

blaming other people either

::

like get used to it and

::

stop trying to either all

::

of the comics are going to

::

come together and rebel

::

against the leftist PC

::

agenda or shut the fuck up

::

like do something different

::

and find another way to go

::

get it any real hustler

::

will find a way to hone

::

their craft in a different

::

fucking way and stop making excuses

::

I think there's two things here.

::

I feel like Jerry Seinfeld

::

is maybe two to three years

::

away from the right-wing comedy sector.

::

Inevitable Tim Allen syndrome.

::

Exactly.

::

I do think he might Tim Allen it.

::

He's certainly on that trajectory.

::

Remember when when things

::

were back in the 50s?

::

Everyone's like, Yeah, I do.

::

I remember when things were in the 50s.

::

Like, and that's it.

::

That's the bit.

::

That's when I couldn't vote.

::

Mm hmm.

::

I remember that.

::

How funny was that?

::

Like, that's the Tim Allen said, like, Hey,

::

remember when kids didn't have iPhones?

::

Yeah, I do.

::

Isn't that funny?

::

Um,

::

I feel like we're really close to that.

::

And I,

::

I do think in the next two to three years,

::

this isn't full Roseanne bar syndrome.

::

Like this is a sliding scale

::

of old white comedian.

::

Like itis is, you know,

::

you've got your 10 amounts

::

where they were kind of weird.

::

And you're like, Hey,

::

remember when you did like

::

cocaine hard in the eighties and people,

::

then you got home

::

improvement and everybody were like him.

::

Um,

::

really they're like yep he's

::

turned a new leaf that's

::

what's happened everybody

::

out to the FBI so yeah

::

that's what happened and

::

then but not like Roseanne

::

where it was like where she was like

::

There's a cabal of people

::

who make me in charge and I

::

don't feel like serving.

::

I don't want to be their slave anymore.

::

And it was like, God damn, Roseanne.

::

Like, yeesh.

::

Honestly,

::

I think the other thing here is

::

that comedy is so, it's not,

::

like back in the day when

::

Seinfeld was doing his thing,

::

there was like four network shows, right?

::

And that was it.

::

It is so, it is just so,

::

I'm not going to say fractured,

::

but there's so many

::

different waves of comedy

::

and so many different shows,

::

so many different channels.

::

Like people follow comedians

::

on Tik TOK and would rather

::

watch their lives than like

::

watch a standup set.

::

That's not, that's not me, but like,

::

I do know those people and

::

the way that comedy has changed.

::

It's so clear that Jerry

::

Seinfeld and his team are,

::

just don't get it.

::

And I think the best

::

contrast I can give you to

::

this is Conan O'Brien, who is like,

::

I'm going to have a podcast.

::

I'm going to talk to these people.

::

I'm going to connect with these people.

::

And he just went on Hot Ones

::

not too long ago.

::

It was incredible.

::

And he's killing it.

::

It was incredible.

::

Like, Conan O'Brien...

::

almost 60 years old just

::

killing the game like I i

::

was shocked he just had an

::

hp he just had a he had a

::

max thing that came out

::

where he's conan o'brien

::

must go and he just goes to

::

different country countries

::

and basically does yes and improv yep

::

all over these different

::

countries and it's funny

::

like it works like it's

::

silly at times but it works

::

it just shows you that like

::

Jerry Seinfeld is just he's

::

not creative anymore he's

::

not open to anything and he

::

has people around him

::

lapping him and he just

::

can't make sense of it

::

yeah and I and I'm kind of

::

tired like I I'm kind of I

::

am equally tired of the

::

like coming for comedians

::

for what they said when

::

they were on stage like

::

that group of folks that's

::

like we need to police

::

everything everyone anyone

::

ever says with a mic in

::

their hand with their on

::

stage but I am also equally

::

over the comedians that are

::

like we're not

::

allowed to say what we want

::

anymore like I both sides

::

both extreme sides of that

::

coin make me go like enough

::

like I'm just over both of

::

you like leave me alone um

::

because both make me angry

::

for different reasons for

::

very different reasons but

::

they both I'm fed up with both

::

That's what I got.

::

Thanks for being with me

::

while I was on my Jerry

::

Seinfeld diatribe.

::

I appreciate it.

::

It needed to be said.

::

Anybody else got anything

::

that they want to chat

::

about before we wrap this one up?

::

Marcus,

::

do you want to maybe talk about

::

maybe a certain red-caped fellow?

::

Yeah.

::

Our favorite alien?

::

Yeah.

::

It's okay if it's no.

::

Maybe you need some time.

::

We need to talk about it

::

because it was revealed today.

::

It was.

::

James Gunn posted the first

::

full-ish picture of Henry

::

Cornsweat as Superman today

::

in the full red and blue

::

boy scout in all of his glory.

::

He's sitting in this seat

::

and what you see in it is

::

like the way that he has it

::

set up is there's an attack

::

happening in Metropolis in

::

the background and in the caption it says,

::

suiting up or getting ready

::

and it's Superman basically

::

putting on his boots and

::

getting ready to fly out.

::

So now what you can see, thanks, Brian.

::

No problem.

::

I got you.

::

So what you see here is just

::

a picture of Superman getting ready.

::

You see kind of a blue, tattered,

::

it looks like this suit has

::

been through some type of hell.

::

Like he's been through it.

::

It's not like a clean suit.

::

And so this is it.

::

You can kind of slightly see

::

if you pay attention enough,

::

there are red undies on Superman.

::

And so they kind of do their

::

will to like hide that.

::

There's a collar on this

::

Superman too as well.

::

And so that's very interesting.

::

And so this suit has a lot

::

of like the new 52 vibes.

::

Yeah, that's what I was about to say.

::

DC Comics.

::

It's like there's the collar on it.

::

There's a lot of these

::

pieces that just scream.

::

It's not your...

::

Superman that we're kind of

::

used to that traditional

::

red cape tucked into blue tights.

::

This is a little bit more modern,

::

a little bit more fresh.

::

So this was a picture he

::

posted on Instagram and

::

socials everywhere.

::

Thoughts?

::

And I love, I love that in the background,

::

there's this giant cosmic

::

event happening and he's

::

just casually getting dressed.

::

Love that for everyone involved.

::

My knee jerk reaction when I

::

first saw the suit for the

::

first time was I really like the collar.

::

I don't know why.

::

I felt like they always,

::

with some of these,

::

not so much with Henry Cavill's suit,

::

but with the other ones,

::

they always gave this

::

plunging neckline to Superman.

::

They always made it right here.

::

And I was like,

::

it just doesn't make any sense to me.

::

Like,

::

it just seems I would want my neck

::

protected,

::

especially if I have a cape

::

because then I can make my

::

whole connect to my traps

::

and through my shoulders

::

instead of having to be

::

just my shoulders.

::

I just, I liked,

::

I really liked the look of the, the, um,

::

the collar.

::

I thought it gave him a

::

little bit more of like, uh, a nice look.

::

So I enjoyed that one.

::

Um,

::

This is the feeling that

::

it's giving me here,

::

like a little bit of this

::

collar that's here.

::

But this is definitely like

::

the more you see by the

::

pattern tracing in the arm,

::

except for the red undies.

::

Like this is what

::

essentially the new

::

Superman looks and feels like.

::

And I'll be honest with you.

::

I'm 50-50.

::

Oh, okay.

::

I need to see one with the suit,

::

the way that the picture is

::

taken in the suit, the suit looks bulky.

::

It doesn't look, you know what I mean?

::

Like it looks like it's,

::

it has like a lot of extra protect,

::

protect your neck, Superman,

::

protect your neck.

::

I'm like Wu-Tang.

::

You got to protect your neck.

::

You got to protect your neck.

::

Woo said it best.

::

Shout out to the Woo.

::

If I find out,

::

if I walk into the theater

::

and Superman is listening to Wu-Tang,

::

I'm going to lose it.

::

I might cheer.

::

I might yell.

::

I might scream like a little.

::

Ah!

::

Yeah.

::

And I'm 50-50.

::

I want to see what the suit

::

looks like when he's like

::

standing up in the more so

::

iconic Superman pose.

::

Yeah.

::

Obviously James Gunn doesn't

::

want to do a full reveal

::

because I imagine he wants to do

::

like a shot or a scene.

::

He wants to see the suit in

::

action in the movie.

::

So, but I don't know.

::

I'm 50-50 on it.

::

I like it.

::

I like the Superman symbol.

::

I like that it's something new.

::

It still pays homage to

::

everything that came before it,

::

but it's still definitely its own thing.

::

And it'll take some adjusting,

::

but I think it'll be fine.

::

And it's not CGI.

::

Oh, that's helpful.

::

No better.

::

No, I like honestly,

::

if I'm if I'm James Gunn

::

and I want to make a

::

distinct difference from

::

the previous movies,

::

I feel like the collared

::

suits is a really good way to go.

::

It's distinctive.

::

It's immediate and it's small.

::

Like it's something you can

::

do with every outfit.

::

Yeah.

::

i also I'm also looking at

::

this picture and it looks

::

like he has like shoulder

::

pad armor and I'm not 100

::

sure what I'm looking at

::

but if it does go that

::

direction I do like that

::

idea of bulking up those

::

shoulders just a little bit

::

just to kind of give it a

::

little bit more definition

::

and something just a little

::

bit more different

::

Yeah, but I'm hyped.

::

I'm hyped for this movie.

::

Just because the man is

::

invincible doesn't mean his

::

shoulders don't get sore

::

from running into shit.

::

That's my thought process.

::

His back is always hurting

::

because he's just carrying

::

the whole world on his shoulders.

::

I'm sorry,

::

what did that have to do with

::

the neck thing, or what?

::

No, the shoulder pads.

::

Like, think about it.

::

If I'm going to go flying

::

shoulder first into a car

::

or a brick building, yeah,

::

I'm invincible and I can go

::

right through it.

::

It doesn't mean it's not going to hurt.

::

Like,

::

I'm still taking my body and throwing

::

it through a brick building.

::

Maybe if you're not Superman, but for...

::

Superman, that doesn't hurt, by the way.

::

He doesn't need shoulder pads.

::

Also, we have an additional comment.

::

Are we doing it?

::

I got really defensive.

::

I'm sorry.

::

You did.

::

You were like, no, not my guy.

::

Shut the fuck up, Doug.

::

I know who my next diss track is about.

::

This dumb motherfucker.

::

The track is going to be

::

called Shoulder Pads.

::

I'm sorry.

::

You got shoulder pads.

::

I don't know.

::

I'm sorry.

::

I didn't mean that.

::

I need shoulder pads from

::

your dumbass brain.

::

I was just moving on.

::

I just feel like... You need

::

shoulder pads.

::

I got sands.

::

I don't know.

::

That's why I don't rap.

::

All right.

::

Brian's spitting a hot four bars.

::

Oh, just, just, yeah.

::

That's how you know it's a

::

real piece of art.

::

Yeah.

::

No, I think,

::

I think this will be interesting.

::

I think I'm ready to see him

::

surrounded by the other,

::

because there's six other

::

main characters in here and

::

I want to see what their

::

costumes look like.

::

Obviously your first one in

::

your first movie is going

::

to feel significantly

::

different as that character ages.

::

If it's anything like Marvel,

::

they can't let one costume sit for

::

You know what I mean?

::

They always find a reason to

::

give a new one.

::

It's superheroes and wrestlers.

::

Anytime that there's a big main event,

::

they get a new outfit.

::

That's how you used to be

::

able to tell with WrestleMania.

::

You knew who was going to win.

::

They showed up wearing new shit.

::

Did Triple H get new tights?

::

That motherfucker's going

::

home with a championship.

::

That's what's happening.

::

His action figure's going to drop.

::

Those fucking Cody Rhodes.

::

I don't know.

::

That's all I got.

::

alright, well,

::

let us know if your opinion changes,

::

whether one way or another.

::

We would be eager to know about it.

::

Oh, I did have something else.

::

I watched Crisis on Infinite

::

Earths Part 1 and Part 2.

::

It's a DC animated movie.

::

Part 1 is on Max for free,

::

and then the second part is

::

on Amazon Prime.

::

I had to pay for it to buy it.

::

But they have a Part 3 coming out, too,

::

as well.

::

So it's a three-part animation.

::

Which will be on Paramount+.

::

Which

::

probably at this point.

::

Yeah.

::

I just thought,

::

I think that that movie is

::

very interesting in the way

::

that they depict their characters.

::

I could see that kind of be

::

in the tone of what they

::

want Superman to become in

::

James Gunn's kind of like

::

between the mix of my

::

adventures as Superman and this movie,

::

I feel like it has to feel

::

kind of similar to how they want,

::

because James Gunn is all

::

about hope with the Superman.

::

Like this guy's going to

::

provide some hope.

::

He's going to be the one

::

that people look to for hope.

::

And I think that Corn Sweat looks great.

::

I mean, he looks like a.

::

lack of a better term, he looks like a big,

::

tall, white,

::

country-bred motherfucker with a curl,

::

and he looks good as Superman.

::

How you act and how you portray everything,

::

we'll have to wait to see,

::

but I just thought that

::

that movie was really interesting.

::

Got me really excited for this.

::

So, yeah.

::

Yeah, I'm a big fan.

::

Yeah, I will say, suit aside,

::

he looks good.

::

Like,

::

David Cornswet in that picture looks

::

good as Superman.

::

So there's no concerns.

::

That confirmed, like,

::

that was a good cast

::

because just the way he fills it out.

::

So I agree with you, Marcus.

::

The rest will sort of have

::

to be time will tell.

::

Cool.

::

Gentlemen.

::

Okay, Roman acted up.

::

Oh, did you just say it on Max for free?

::

Get this title for free with

::

a $10 subscription.

::

You're right.

::

I did fuck that up, Roman.

::

I did.

::

I'm sorry.

::

I did.

::

Man,

::

everybody turned it on Marcus in the

::

last 15 minutes of this podcast.

::

Yeah, yeah.

::

I deserve it.

::

That's what happens.

::

My tone was Superman,

::

but he fucked up a lot of stuff.

::

You know what I mean?

::

That's my fault.

::

That's okay.

::

It's okay.

::

We all get defenses about things.

::

It's confusing.

::

What is on Amazon Prime?

::

What is Amazon Prime?

::

Yeah.

::

Gentlemen,

::

anything else before we close it out?

::

Otherwise,

::

I will turn it over to what you

::

all have to plug this week.

::

Nothing.

::

I think I'm good.

::

Brian, take it away.

::

What do you got to plug?

::

Hey, folks.

::

Head on over to Etsy.com and

::

search Color Me Confetti.

::

One word.

::

You can go check out my

::

wife's printables for parties.

::

You've got a party coming up.

::

Go print those decorations.

::

You don't have to go anywhere.

::

You don't have to go to Amazon.

::

You don't have to go to the big one.

::

You can go to Etsy.com.

::

Type in Color Me Confetti.

::

Go check out those printables.

::

Absolutely.

::

Marcus, what do you got?

::

You always want to make sure

::

you follow the mantra, never offended,

::

always humble.

::

Go buy yourself some merch.

::

Soul Tide drops this week.

::

He drops his new song, Link.

::

You can find that everywhere

::

on DSPs and a pre-saved

::

link out in his bio right now.

::

Follow him on Instagram, S-O-U-L-T-Y-E.

::

But whatever you do, follow the mantra,

::

never offended, always humble.

::

Absolutely.

::

I want to plug this podcast.

::

Hey,

::

if you enjoyed our conversations about

::

yams and Superman and rap beef, you know,

::

share us with a friend or a

::

family member.

::

It's the best way that we

::

get that traction with others.

::

But if you're feeling generous,

::

head over to Patreon dot

::

com slash films of black and white.

::

Sign up for one of our tiers

::

there and be a part of the Patty family.

::

Love to have you.

::

Gentlemen,

::

we have a three-step process to success.

::

Brian, what is that first step?

::

Hi, I'm here to tell you to read a book,

::

and I'm currently reading Invincible,

::

the first compendium, via Hoopla.

::

It's great.

::

It's all on my iPad.

::

I get to read as long as I have battery.

::

That's the one thing about

::

reading nowadays.

::

You gotta make sure if

::

you're reading on a device,

::

it has batteries.

::

Hey,

::

remember when you didn't have to read

::

books with batteries?

::

It's weird.

::

You gotta read

::

Things with batteries.

::

But anyway,

::

make sure the battery's charged.

::

And yeah, just go to your library.

::

Just take the books.

::

They don't care.

::

As long as you bring them back,

::

you just take them.

::

Just take them.

::

Read a book.

::

I love it.

::

Marcus, give us that second step, man.

::

You want to make sure that

::

you drink some water.

::

Today was rainy here in South Dakota,

::

but it'll get hot eventually.

::

And you want to be proactive.

::

So make sure you drink some water.

::

Treat yourself to the nice stuff.

::

If you want to treat some sparkling,

::

bubbly water,

::

whatever it is that gets your shit off,

::

just make sure you drink some water.

::

absolutely and look y'all

::

like marcus said it was

::

rainy today but just

::

because you walked outside

::

in the rain that doesn't

::

count as a shower that

::

doesn't count as washing

::

your ass you got to go into

::

a bathroom with some soap

::

and a washcloth or a loofah

::

or whatever your utensil of

::

choice is and wash that ass

::

it is very very important

::

that you do so uh because you

::

We're in two shower territory, you guys.

::

It's going to be 75 at the

::

end of this week.

::

Two showers territory,

::

especially on the weekends.

::

You wake up, you shower,

::

you do some work outside,

::

or you play with your kids,

::

you do whatever you're doing,

::

you shower again,

::

because Lord knows you sweat,

::

so get after it.

::

And step four from our guy in the chat,

::

Roman Meyer, step four,

::

grab an extra chocolate

::

chip muffin when given the chance.

::

He's not wrong.

::

He's not wrong.

::

You never know when you're

::

going to need a muffin.

::

I did that Friday.

::

It was great.

::

Yeah,

::

you never know because you might need

::

a snack later, and then you have it.

::

You don't have to worry about it.

::

Gentlemen,

::

that does it for this week's

::

episode of Films in Black and White.

::

We will be back next week

::

with another outstanding episode.

::

But in the meantime,

::

and in the between time, stay safe,

::

stay healthy.

::

We love y'all.

::

We appreciate y'all.

::

We'll catch y'all next week.

::

Love you!

::

Brian, were you giving us robot guns?

::

I was.

::

I was going...

::

kind of like a terminator

::

but like and then I saw

::

your heavy metal thing so

::

it was just it was a lot

::

happening in my brain at

::

one time as you were

::

starting to sign off I'm so

::

glad the stream was still running

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