Episode 17 - bonus

BONUS: Resident Evil

Published on: 24th April, 2024

We continue our deep dive into our favorite movies with the one, the only Bryan Roush. This time Bryan had us watch the 2002 movie Resident Evil starring Mila Jovovich, Michelle Rodriguez, and Colin Salmon. Join us as we get into all of the gory, zombie-filled details.

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Thank you.

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welcome to films of black

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and white everybody bonus

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edition bonus bonus that's

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crazy intro we're gonna get

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some fish oh yeah we are

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we're the mouse is not

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having that that mcu intro

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I forgot I forgot there's

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footage of me just straight

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up dancing which made me

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laugh so I i appreciate

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that thank you for that

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serotonin yeah of course it's great

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Welcome to the bonus episode, everybody.

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We are here to talk the

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movies that made us.

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So the last time we did this

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particular episode,

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we went and saw Don't Be a

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Menace While Drinking Your

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Juice in the Hood,

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Marcus' recommendation.

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Don't Be a Menace in South Central?

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Well, this will be interesting.

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I forgot the South Central.

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No, South Central is here.

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um but this week we are

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watched resident evil which

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is a brian that is this is

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a brian movie everybody um

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I have a very funny story

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about that before we dive

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into the movie let's just

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do a quick run around the

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whole wheel here marcus j

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destin aka hallway lasers

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how you feeling sir

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Feeling good.

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Happy to dissect this movie

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for my buddy Brian.

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Just here for a good time,

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you know what I mean?

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But we're here, live in the living color.

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Yeah, we are.

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Absolutely.

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Brian Rausch, a.k.a.

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Umbrella Human Resources.

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How are you feeling, sir?

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I'm feeling so good.

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I'm so excited to talk about this movie.

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After I rewatched this movie

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for probably like the umpteenth time,

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I like looked at Maggie and I was like,

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I got to watch another one.

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And I did.

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So I'm just feeling so much

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joy that we're going to

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talk about this movie.

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Absolutely.

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And what about yourself, Doug?

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How are you?

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You know, guys, I'm just... Zombie dog.

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I'm so happy to just be here

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with my guys talking about movies.

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It's just an honor and a

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blessing to be in this

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space just doing things that we enjoy.

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And so it's a real...

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Boy, howdy.

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Boy, howdy.

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Is it a treat?

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Doesn't sound genuine at all.

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No, I'm very excited to see this.

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I had thoughts about this.

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Yes.

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Why do I feel like Marcus is

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reaching for something that

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he's going to show me later?

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I don't know, man.

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I don't know.

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Anyway.

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He could be eating.

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I don't know.

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It could.

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He's a wild card.

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But I was very excited to see this.

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This is a movie I have not seen ever.

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So this is my first watch.

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I've also not played the

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video games at all.

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So I had zero.

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Is that a reverse card?

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Is that a reverse?

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It's a reverse card.

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This is describing Doug's

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bullshit antics that he's

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on his entire day.

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I've been in here for half

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of a pod and this whole pod,

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this ain't even doing shit

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but trying to hit a Uno

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reverse and it's not going to work.

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God damn it.

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I'm going to persevere.

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I'm going to persevere through it.

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That's what I'm going to do.

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Brian, before we dive into this movie.

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How is this movie like a

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part of your foundation?

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How did it become a part of

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your foundation?

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And then we'll do like our

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barbershop summary.

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But tell us about it.

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Yeah.

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So this so when a lot of

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people like talk to me,

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they obviously know I like

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Star Wars and we can do an

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episode about that at some point.

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But I really like dug deep and it's like,

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what what are one of these

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movies that is just that sticks with you?

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And Resident Evil sticks

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with me because it came out

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when I was just like

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becoming like a young adult.

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So it's one of those was one

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of my first rated R movies

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I could see in the theater.

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So it sticks in my mind that way.

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Funny, though, I still had to get a

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parent to buy our tickets

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because we were 16 and you

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needed to be 17 and so I

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was like hey can you buy

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this Resident Evil tickets

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and then we went to the

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theater and saw it without

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that parent I did the same

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thing oh yeah and this it

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stuck with me because it

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was so different and one of

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the and like I'll get into

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more of that but like

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It just it was a horror movie,

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but it was an action movie

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and there was like a mystery element.

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And I just at that point,

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I hadn't seen anything like this.

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Like I hadn't seen someone

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genre mash all those things

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together until this moment.

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And it was also based on a

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video game that I enjoyed.

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And I like I'm a huge gamer,

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was a huge gamer.

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And Resident Evil was always

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kind of one of these like, I don't know,

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it was kind of always one

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of these like white whales for me.

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I never finished the games

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because I had to rent them.

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And you can't finish

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Resident Evil game in a weekend.

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And so it was nice to have

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like a full experience.

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And that's the other thing I

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remember is like,

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I got a whole experience.

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I didn't have to play a game.

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This is great.

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We also did it for a

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friend's birthday party.

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I doubt any of them are listening,

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but Peter Wurtz, Sean Tudor, Matt Davis,

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if you're listening, I love y'all.

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I remember this movie.

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I remember the four of us

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going and I loved it.

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And it was for my friend

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Peter Wurtz's birthday.

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So like, it's just,

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it really sticks in my brain.

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There's just a lot of good

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memories associated.

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about that dude that's

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awesome that's a great

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story and I appreciate you

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sharing you're right that's

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it's some of those movies

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we see when we are very

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beautiful like real full

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adults it it they have they

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just stick with us a little

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bit longer so I appreciate that so yeah

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But gentlemen,

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this took me down a rabbit

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hole that I did not expect.

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I love this.

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You and I talked a little

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bit about it in the chat.

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But after watching this,

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there were things that I

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had to uncover and dig into.

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Yes.

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And so I have a whole

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Fangoria article called 20 Years Later,

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a look back at the history

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of the first Resident Evil film.

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Jesus Christ.

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I was down there today.

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So I'm excited to get into this.

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I love that.

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But in order to get into it,

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somebody's got to give us a

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barbershop summary of Resident Evil.

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So who's it going to be?

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brian do you want it because

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it's your movie you want to

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do it do you want me to do

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it I'll do the honors I'll

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do the honors here uh so

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what had happened was you

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you start this movie and

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it's you got this this guy

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and he's like he's taking

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vials and then one of the

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vials breaks and you're

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like that seems bad but

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then the movie moves on

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it's like people in an

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office complex and then all

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these people in the office

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complex are suddenly

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trapped in there and you

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no idea what's going on and

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it's super scary and people

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are dying you don't

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understand what's happening

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but there's cameras

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watching it and it's super

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creepy and anyway some lady

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tries to get out of an

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elevator and she only has

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her head out and you can

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figure out how how that

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ends I mean also spoilers

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we're gonna spoil this

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movie it's been 20 years

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like get get with it um

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And then we cut to Mila

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Jovich hanging out in a shower.

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And then a series of minutes,

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I'm going to just say a

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series of events later as

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she's exploring this really cold, open,

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dark mansion she's in.

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SEAL Team 6 busts in and

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takes her to a really weird train station

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And then they tell her that, hey, actually,

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you're an agent.

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You don't remember this,

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but you're an agent of Umbrella.

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And stuff has gone wrong at

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this underground research

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facility called The Hive.

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And instead of just leaving it sealed,

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we're going to go in there.

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And there might be some

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terrible things in there.

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And that's your setup for the movie.

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To the synopsis.

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That's pretty much it.

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That's pretty much it.

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Ah, shucks.

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Let's run down cast and box office.

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Let's do it.

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Joe, which plays Alice.

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Michelle Rodriguez plays Rain.

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Ryan McCluskey plays Mr. Gray.

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Oscar Pierce plays Mr. Red.

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Indra Ove plays Mrs. Black.

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Anna Bolt plays Dr. Green.

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And then the only other one

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is Eric Mavis plays Matt.

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Colin Salmon plays one.

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That's pretty much it.

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What?

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That's kind of running it

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down in terms of folks.

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These are the actual names?

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These are the actual names of the actors.

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Mr. Black, Mr. Green, one.

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Oh, no, those are the... Mr. Red,

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Mr. Green.

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Those are the character names?

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Those are character names, yeah.

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Did not catch that at all.

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Got it.

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They really simplified that.

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I mean, I like that.

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Makes sense, but yeah.

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Yeah, no, I mean, it's easy to remember...

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and it doesn't matter

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because I don't even

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remember them saying colin

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colin salmon's name they

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referred to him maybe once

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but you're like is that his

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name and so yeah they don't

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matter it feels like they

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were like oh fuck we gotta

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put it guys we gotta make

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the imdb for this what do

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we want to call him mr

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black just yep that's just

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yeah that's exactly that's

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it so that's it um

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But budget for this movie,

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$33 million in 2001, 2002 dollars.

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That's when this came out.

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Box office globally was $40

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million estimated.

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Wow.

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And again, in 2002 dollars.

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So would have done well considered.

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maybe not like a smash hit

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but good enough that they

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also now have done like 4

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000 sequels of these um and

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so willingly both yeah

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exactly yeah yes um but

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gentlemen thoughts on

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resident evil go ahead no

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no go ahead I was gonna say

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doug you've never seen this

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before so I want to know

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where you're where your

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head is that tell us dude yeah

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I, this movie is a fun ride.

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Like, and it's, I think it's, this is,

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this movie is like all gas, no brakes.

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Like it is, it is like,

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there is never a dull moment.

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There is never a quiet

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moment where nothing is happening.

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It is all like, Hey,

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we're going over here.

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Oh no zombies.

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Okay, good.

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Now we're here.

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Oh shit.

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More zombies.

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Like that's just kind of the

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pacing for this movie.

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And you can kind of tell by the tight,

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like hour and 37 minute

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runtime that they were just like, no,

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don't have them walk around a lot.

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don't have them like

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wondering where things are

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um and so it's a lot of fun

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in that respect and it

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keeps it really interesting

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there were questions that I

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had and brian can attest to

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one of my questions where

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that I was like but wait

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why and it feels like for

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the majority of this movie

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they were like no this is

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the wrong question sit down

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like that it feels like

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like the director and

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everyone was like no no no

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no like sit down it doesn't

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matter like yeah because

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right away I'm like

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Why were they making a

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zombie virus in an underground bunker?

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And they were like, man,

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it does not matter.

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Just don't worry about it.

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You don't need to know about it.

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All you need to know is it's bad.

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Bad things are happening.

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Why do you have these giant

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meaty monsters in lockers down here?

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Don't worry about it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Like I get that umbrella makes everything,

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but like everything,

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everything like it's so.

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So, yeah, I had a lot of

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I had a lot of those style questions.

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Sure, sure.

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But again,

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they're not relevant and they're

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not needed.

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And it is kind of nice to

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have a movie where you

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don't have to invest that

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mental energy in trying to figure it out.

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And so, yeah, it's a fun ride.

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I mean, that was my first impression.

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Hell yeah.

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I mean, you just... Yeah!

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hell yeah I mean it does

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just throw you into it I

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mean even the ending is a

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little ambiguous because

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it's like white coats come

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in bright room take you

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away and that's kind of

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like and then she wakes up

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and everybody's kind of

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gone maybe like everybody's

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gone and probably yeah you

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know what I mean picks a

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lock with a needle like and

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it's and it's like she's

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out in the world like ta-da

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I didn't know how that worked.

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By the way.

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No,

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I talked to Maggie about this poor

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Maggie.

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I was probably talking

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through half this movie

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because like I'm just

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telling her stuff because

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like this was the first

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movie that I like watched

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all the DVD extras on like

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every single one of the music videos.

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And like so I was just

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telling her the whole time

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like this part you can see

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the camera tracking on here

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and you can hide it easily

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because it's in a sewer and

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she's like that's nice.

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But no,

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the finale scene where she gets out

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of the operating room,

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it's implied she gets out

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by jamming an IV in a key card reader,

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which is like...

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no sense at all she did was

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that's not how any of this

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works well you know what

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mila jovich sold the shit

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out of it because they

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didn't look so focused they

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didn't just put it in there

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and it popped open they had

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her like take a little

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angle and then slide it up

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and down and then it went

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and then it like opened the

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door okay dirty bloody

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needle with her half shaved

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head and she and it's just

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like it's just her against

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the prop like literally like

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So thank you, Mila Jovic,

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for your service.

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And also, shout out to Mila Jovic,

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because she...

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regularly is the like we

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need an actress it's not

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like a super serious role

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they do have to be like

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kind of naked like wait

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hold on like no we're just

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gonna like drape shit over

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her yeah make people think

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that there's nothing going

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on what's the name of the

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movie the fifth element and

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then we're gonna need her

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to do it again in resident

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evil wait a minute was she

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in the fifth element

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Yes!

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She played the element.

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She's great.

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She is the fifth element.

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She is the fifth element.

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Yeah, multi-pass.

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That is Mila Jovovich.

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Okay,

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so can I just take this moment to say

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this?

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You may.

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Now that I remember that,

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Mila is phenomenal.

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Yes.

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Because there is something that,

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not to step on Doug's joke,

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because you're right.

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No, no, no, no.

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You step away.

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Go ahead.

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Step all over it.

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Okay,

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I'm going to shut the fuck up now and

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y'all keep talking.

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How about that?

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You want to hear the Uno reverse?

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I'll hear the Uno reverse too.

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The audience has no idea

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about... You know what?

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That's your choice and I respect it.

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Brian, what else you got?

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Oh,

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I'm happy to pull us up out of this

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nosedive.

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Yeah,

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so one of the reasons I love this

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movie is that it does not

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waste a lot of time.

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And the beginning of the movie,

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I feel like it gives you

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just enough mystery,

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but it doesn't linger there.

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Because I feel like nowadays,

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and you're going to hear me

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saying this a lot in

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reference to this movie,

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but I feel like if they

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wanted to franchise it, you would like...

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you would find like all

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these side characters and

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you'd find out like, and they'd be just,

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they'd be very shallow,

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but you'd know just enough to be like, oh,

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that's blue shirt.

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And they walked down the

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hall together or whatever.

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This movie, it's like,

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we're going to show you 10 characters.

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All of them are dead.

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You don't even need to worry about it.

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You jettison all that information.

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Here's Alice 10 minutes in

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and now you're going to Wonderland.

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I appreciate that about the

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movie because I feel like

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it kind of does pull a

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fastball where you think

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the lady in the elevator

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might be a significant

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protagonist and nope, she's dead.

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Immediately.

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Not even a chance.

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You said Wonderland.

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Is that a reference to

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Is there a connection to

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Alice in Wonderland and why

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they take that route, right?

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That's pretty spot on.

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That's my assumption.

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I mean, to me,

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with her being named Alice

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and then it's just kind of like...

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She goes down a tunnel.

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Yeah.

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But that's not the only reference.

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No, no.

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They call the computer the Red Queen.

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Yep.

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Yes.

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I just wanted to make sure I

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wasn't tripping.

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No, you're not.

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I assume it's very

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intentional from Paul W. I

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have to re-watch this

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fucking movie again?

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Isn't it great, Doug?

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Isn't that great?

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Like it kind of feels like

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it kind of feels like a

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little like I expect like I

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kind of expect like the guy

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from Knives Out to kind of

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show up and be like,

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it's genius and be like, no,

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it's not like it is.

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No, it is.

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You got to think about it, though,

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for the time.

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that was probably premiere

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sneaky like Brian said and

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I think it's a great

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description it's horror

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it's mystery half the movie

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is spent with these two

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pretty white motherfuckers

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trying to remember who the

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fuck they are and having

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sex flashbacks that's not

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the only flashback but

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they're having these

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flashbacks and she's like I

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made good love to that man

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obviously I'm in love with

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him and he's like

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nope I flashback at the very

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end of I'm actually the bad

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guy and like that was and

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like that's it but yep yeah

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there's several references

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made I think that this was

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really smart for that time

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period yeah I mean go ahead

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I was gonna say they make a

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white rabbit reference in

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the matrix too so I do feel

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like it's a common right

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it's a common denominator I

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very much enjoy it in this context though

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I feel like they did that a

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lot with movies that had to

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deal with any type of

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internet or technology

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or... Getting out of the system.

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Fish out of water kind of

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moments where it was like,

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this person's going down the rabbit hole.

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They wanted to do that a lot.

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All the time.

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It's not what he's saying, Brian.

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I'm just going to talk to Brian.

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It's not what he's saying.

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Surprise.

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Let's talk only to Brian.

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It's how he's saying things

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that makes it 10 times funnier.

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Because it's not what he's

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saying is correct.

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It's been how he's saying it

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that's throwing me for a fucking loop.

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I mean, I'm tone neutral here.

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I'm enjoying it both ways here.

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Can I interrupt your

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discussion so we can keep

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talking about Resident Evil?

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It's your podcast, dude.

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Don't let me stop you.

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This is your show.

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Welcome to the bonus episode

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where we're airing it all out.

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He's lucky I showed up 30

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minutes late to the first one.

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I didn't give him hell like I wanted to.

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And now we come to the

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airing of grievances.

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Yeah, I think they did this a lot.

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I think, Brian, to your point of like,

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they could have easily done...

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a movie where it's like oh

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who's key carded this oh

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it's rick's key card like

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rick had a day off like and

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that leads them on like a

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whole side quest of all the

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other things oh my gosh it

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makes me wonder because one

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of the things that I

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discovered you and I talked

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about this in the chat a

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little bit that the first

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part one of they one of the

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folks who wrote this

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It was George A. Romero.

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George A. Romero did Dawn of the Dead.

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He was brought into the

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Resident Evil world because in 1998,

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this movie came out in 2002, 1998,

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he directed a Japanese ad

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for the game Resident Evil 2.

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And...

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As the story goes, the creator,

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Shinji Makami,

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loved the work so much that they said,

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hey, why don't you just write the script?

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Apparently,

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he wrote such a detailed script

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where they had every character,

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every type of zombie,

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like all put into the movie.

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And eventually they were like,

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it's too much detail.

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It's going to get us an NC-17 rating.

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So you're out.

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So this script still exists.

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So anybody who goes to the

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University of Pittsburgh,

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they have all of George A.

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Romero's complete works at

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the University of Pittsburgh.

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So you can actually go and

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find a copy of it and read

::

the script for this movie

::

that was never produced.

::

That's actually cool.

::

I would do that in a heartbeat.

::

I think I found a version of

::

it online and it's very...

::

It is very grown up.

::

I don't know what the right word is.

::

Adult, sure, but it's not aimed at kids.

::

This is not a fun and games

::

type of script.

::

It is very much like a, no,

::

these are adults.

::

Yeah, pretty much.

::

Pretty much.

::

These are adults.

::

And this first Resident Evil,

::

it is very much aiming

::

for... I was the target demographic.

::

I was a teenage boy with

::

money to spend and into action movies.

::

like I 100 I was the target

::

demographic for this um and

::

I do I do think it's

::

interesting how some of it

::

re-watching it I was like

::

oh this is like really

::

gratuitous like as a kid I

::

understand why I love this

::

but like watching it now

::

and knowing what I know now

::

there's a scene um

::

after they uh basically

::

after they reboot the

::

system and all the zombies

::

come out and basically it's

::

like paul ws anderson was

::

like I want 20 minutes of

::

guns shooting okay I want

::

to put that in this movie

::

and it's just they have

::

guns and can they use them

::

and they and they use them

::

a lot and like basically

::

it's just like five minutes

::

straight of just people

::

shooting machine guns and

::

all I could think of was like

::

man,

::

I don't think operators would do that.

::

Like, real-life operators would go, like,

::

full automatic.

::

Like, they would be semi-auto, like,

::

just trying to, like, not hit everything.

::

And then in the movie,

::

it shows them hitting all of, like,

::

the liquor tanks and stuff like that.

::

And I'm like, oh, man,

::

this totally went over my head as, like,

::

a kid.

::

Like, this is... I like the point of, like,

::

you do get this gratuitous violence,

::

but also they went full...

::

and they let everybody out

::

and that's bad and they're

::

always pointing guns at

::

each other that's the other

::

thing that I and it's not

::

until like the last like 20

::

minutes where he's like I

::

need to conserve ammo so

::

I'm not actually gonna

::

shoot you but right for the

::

majority of the movie it's

::

just them pointing guns at

::

each other I mean a little

::

oh go ahead margaret no no go ahead

::

it's a little bit of video

::

game logic of like you

::

can't change the character

::

model when they look at

::

someone so like they're

::

pointing the gun at someone

::

when they're like when

::

they're talking to them

::

even though it only needs

::

to be a discussion like

::

they just they carry that

::

over to the movie yeah yeah

::

I mean, for the first,

::

so I was texting the guys and I was like,

::

for the first 10 minutes, I was missing,

::

like,

::

so this movie is not very dialogue heavy.

::

No, it is not.

::

You are not going to get, like,

::

don't feel like you got to pay extra,

::

extra attention to the dialogue.

::

No.

::

It's the most simple.

::

Denis Villanueva would love

::

this movie because it is

::

the most simplified version

::

of a dialogue.

::

He really would.

::

And so first 10 minutes of this 15,

::

I was kind of like cleaning

::

up and doing something else

::

at the same time.

::

But I could have sworn I was

::

watching Doom for like the

::

first 10 minutes because it

::

has the same vibes.

::

I'm waiting for The Rock to

::

like walk the fuck out.

::

And I'm like, oh, no,

::

that's not that's the wrong movie.

::

But what I do like about this, though, is.

::

It's something about the

::

practical effects and the practical set.

::

It's not CGI.

::

They go to open up doors and

::

the doors are like, they shake a little,

::

they're a little wonky when

::

they go in and open this steel door,

::

quote unquote, right?

::

But I like that.

::

I like the fact that they are in,

::

you can tell that these

::

motherfuckers are trudging through water.

::

Yes.

::

Whatever scene that is,

::

they specifically set it up

::

to shoot that scene.

::

Yeah.

::

Yeah.

::

I mean, even the, the,

::

the liquors are practical effects.

::

They,

::

for like the big movements and CG and

::

it looks, it looks rough,

::

but I'm also not critiquing it.

::

Cause it was 2002.

::

Like that's just fine.

::

Yeah.

::

That's yeah, it looks good for 2002.

::

But like there's practical

::

effects of the liquors and

::

they look terrifying.

::

Like you can tell there was

::

love and care put into that.

::

And also the dogs are it's a

::

blend of CG and real makeup.

::

And one of the problems they

::

had with putting the makeup

::

on the dogs was they kept eating it.

::

So, like,

::

they basically had to shoot that

::

dog scene, like, super fast.

::

And that's why it's such a

::

small part of the movie,

::

because they're like,

::

we couldn't get more

::

footage because the dogs

::

just would keep eating them.

::

And I just, I love that.

::

It's actually really funny.

::

I mean, the practical makeup too, right?

::

Like you see the makeup

::

effects are also really good in this.

::

You actually see zombies and

::

you can tell somebody sat in the seat,

::

gave you the yellow eyes

::

and they gave you like this

::

messed up looking and they

::

were actually pretty terrifying.

::

Like I love that.

::

Yes.

::

Yeah.

::

The rules were established very easily.

::

If you get scratched by this shit,

::

it's a wrap.

::

One bite, one scratch, it's over.

::

Little scary London girl,

::

British girl with the

::

accent is the computer.

::

She telling y'all motherfuckers, hey y'all,

::

I was tripping, my bad y'all,

::

but I really had to shut

::

this shit down because

::

motherfuckers was getting

::

loose and I'm a little

::

scary little girl and these

::

are the zombies and y'all

::

got to shoot that

::

motherfucker before I let y'all go.

::

Easy rules.

::

Yep.

::

Yeah.

::

I mean, yeah.

::

And established tried and

::

true zombie rules.

::

You get that bit or scratch by, I mean,

::

ostensibly before this

::

short of George A. Romero's

::

like land of the, like his movies,

::

there wasn't a ton of zombie, like,

::

you know, lower out there.

::

So this kind of like kicked

::

it off and established the, like, Nope,

::

here's the rule.

::

You get bit, you get scratched,

::

you turn into one.

::

Like that's, it is what it is.

::

And so, I mean, kudos to them for, for,

::

for blazing the trail.

::

well and this is like this

::

is like two three years out

::

from Zack Snyder's Dawn of

::

the Dead which I feel like

::

helped kick off the next

::

wave of like zombie stuff

::

and so like Resident Evil

::

kind of existed in its own

::

like little weird space and

::

I agree with you Doug like

::

they were very they're very

::

clear there was no

::

ambiguity here and they

::

even panned a Michelle Rodriguez's like

::

bit in hand they're like

::

that's probably not good

::

right viewer anyway moving

::

on like nobody addresses it

::

in the moment but the

::

camera does well and and

::

they said that according to

::

some of the sources that I

::

read as I was like combing

::

through this and going down

::

the rabbit hole they said

::

that one of the main

::

reasons why we had more movies like

::

dawn of the dead zack

::

snyder's dawn of the dead

::

and others was because of

::

this and particularly

::

george a romero had two

::

movies that came out after

::

this so while he didn't get

::

this one fascinating he had

::

more work because they had

::

movies like this that came

::

out because it was a very

::

specific genre of movie

::

called survival horror that

::

they were trying to go for

::

with it and this is the

::

first one of its kind which is

::

pretty incredible.

::

Again,

::

pretty interesting that they were

::

able to do that overall.

::

Brian, I got a question.

::

What is it that about this

::

movie defines who you are today?

::

The things that... It's kind

::

of funny now that I've had

::

this retrospect when I rewatched it.

::

It's like a two-parter.

::

When I was growing up,

::

what defined it for me was...

::

it was one of my first rated R movies.

::

So that, that is just, it is baked in.

::

And I remember all those effects.

::

Cause I was like,

::

that dude's bleeding out of his mouth.

::

What?

::

Like, I just, that was all new.

::

That was all new to me.

::

But second of all, it was also like,

::

it was the start of me understanding.

::

I would be drawn to like

::

female led projects.

::

Cause like up until this point,

::

I don't think I had seen an action movie.

::

with a with a woman in the

::

lead role like I'm trying

::

really hard to think like

::

pre-2002 but I i am drawn a

::

blank and so this was the

::

first time where I was like

::

that mila jovich lady's

::

like gonna kick that dog in

::

the face like that's nuts

::

uh she didn't it was a cg dog but like

::

um it leads me to my next

::

point though of like as I'm

::

watching as I'm re-watching

::

this movie I'm like huh

::

they did some slow-mo and

::

I'm really into that and

::

then I think about all of

::

the zack snyder discussions

::

we've had and like how I'm

::

seeing these things that I

::

like of like I really like super stylized

::

action I want to take it

::

another level like I want

::

to see that I want to see

::

how it gets created and I

::

want to have it be more

::

creative and iterative and

::

resident evil like kind of

::

set off that spark in me of

::

like yeah I like action

::

movies but I want to take

::

it like a step further like

::

make it more stylized like

::

make it more weird make it

::

give me something else give

::

me another layer to it and

::

resident evil did that it

::

was like yes it can be more than that um

::

And then lastly, this is for me now,

::

not for what it was back then,

::

but looking back,

::

Resident Evil also has all

::

these themes of anti-corporate sentiment.

::

That's what I picked up on immediately.

::

Immediately, right?

::

Unrestricted free commerce

::

of this pharmaceutical

::

who's just legit making

::

monsters and everyone's fine with it.

::

And those seeds got buried

::

deep and sprouted.

::

in my twenties and thirties,

::

like a hundred percent.

::

And I was watching it as a kid.

::

And I looking back, it's like,

::

I took that as like, Oh yeah,

::

that absolutely makes sense.

::

Didn't even cross my mind to

::

question it because it was like,

::

it made so much sense to me.

::

And then looking back, I'm like,

::

this absolutely informed

::

parts of who I am.

::

And like,

::

And and stuff like that.

::

And the entertainment that I

::

like because I am I am

::

always drawn to those projects of like,

::

OK,

::

like we have a we have a woman in this

::

lead role for an action movie.

::

Like, yes, like that's the stuff I like.

::

And I knew that even at a younger age.

::

Thank you, Brian.

::

That's what I picked up on right away,

::

Brian.

::

When I was watching it,

::

like the anti-corporate piece of this,

::

I was like, this makes a ton of sense.

::

Because when I was watching it,

::

as those threads were there, I was like,

::

this makes a ton of sense

::

why this is Brian's jam now.

::

Just because I know who you are.

::

And I'm not saying like,

::

I just think it all tracks

::

and it all fits.

::

So thanks for sharing.

::

But that was, I also saw that too.

::

Oh, no, I appreciate it.

::

And they ham-fisted sometimes.

::

It is kind of funny looking

::

back because the blue shirt guy,

::

I can't even remember his name.

::

Oh, God.

::

The corporation's going to pay.

::

And I'm like, okay,

::

that's ham-fisted even for me.

::

But yeah, okay,

::

I see where some of these

::

seeds got planted.

::

Ham-fisted.

::

And there are other moments

::

where they do that too, Brian,

::

where they're like, well, you know,

::

the corporation owns you

::

and it owns everything.

::

And you're like...

::

okay we get it but like take

::

it back just a smidge but

::

Doug did you get it when it

::

was on their wedding rings

::

like just in case it wasn't

::

entirely clear to you yeah

::

it's just everywhere that's

::

the one thing I don't know

::

if they really discussed

::

in full or maybe I missed it

::

she gave the codes away to

::

the lady who ended up you

::

think she's gonna come back

::

later and be like she's

::

alive and this is gonna be

::

important turns out that

::

motherfucker dead too so

::

like you know she gives

::

Mila gives the codes cause

::

she wants to be with her

::

man she wants to take down

::

Umbrella like she she

::

basically grows a

::

conscience doing this work

::

and that's explored in the

::

later movies too

::

Which is like a whole other thing,

::

by the way.

::

But like, no,

::

she comes to her senses and is like, no,

::

Umbrella is bad.

::

And it's just that simple.

::

Got it.

::

Pretty much.

::

Yeah, it's not super complicated.

::

Blue shirt guy, Brian,

::

his Eric Mabus was the actor's name.

::

Yeah.

::

Do you want to hear something funny?

::

David Borrance from the

::

Boreanaz Boreanaz from Angel.

::

Yeah,

::

he was originally supposed to play

::

blue shirt guy,

::

but he was too busy with

::

Angel to break away and

::

actually shoot the movie.

::

That's the blonde hair guy

::

that was on Buffy?

::

No, he was the dark hair guy on Buffy.

::

So Spike was the blonde guy.

::

He's like another vampire.

::

But yeah, Bones.

::

The guy with Bones.

::

That TV show.

::

That's amazing.

::

I did not know that nugget.

::

I would have loved David Boreanaz.

::

Oh, I do know Bones.

::

There you go.

::

Yeah.

::

And my other very favorite

::

piece of fun fact trivia

::

was the original title for this movie.

::

The original title for this movie,

::

before it got changed,

::

was called Resident Evil Ground Zero.

::

But it came out in 2002,

::

so because of 9-11,

::

they had to change it.

::

Hey, you know what I say to that?

::

Smart move.

::

Hey, way to be ahead of that one!

::

I mean...

::

man I i mean well and I

::

appreciate that this movie

::

is like acts like a prequel

::

essentially to everything

::

resident it really does and

::

I i don't know like it

::

doesn't tell you it's a

::

prequel and I feel I wish

::

more movies did that

::

Like, I don't need to know.

::

I don't need to know everything like that.

::

And I don't know.

::

That's part of the mystery with it.

::

It's not a super complicated mystery.

::

But to me,

::

it's satisfying because the

::

amnesia aspect is kind of a

::

cumbersome plot device.

::

But I think it's really

::

effective in getting the

::

viewers like into it

::

because you're on the same page as Alice.

::

You know, Umbrella is here, but like.

::

I got no clue who all these

::

other people are.

::

I have no idea what's going on down here.

::

And it puts her and the

::

viewer basically on like the same footing,

::

which I think is a really

::

effective tool for this movie.

::

Well, do you think it worked?

::

It worked.

::

It worked.

::

Right.

::

Because I mean, like, I didn't know I,

::

what were my questions?

::

Why are they doing that?

::

Why is like,

::

why all I had all of these like,

::

why based questions?

::

Yeah.

::

Which I'm sure if we are

::

like trying to dive into

::

the mind of the character,

::

Alice has some of those

::

very same questions.

::

Yes.

::

But they just never take the

::

time to ask them because in

::

that moment they're not relevant.

::

And again, it just it worked.

::

It just worked.

::

Yeah.

::

Sorry, Marcus.

::

I cut you off.

::

No, no, no, no.

::

I think that was kind of the

::

same thing that I was going

::

to say was it did work.

::

And it worked so well that

::

it keeps you locked in,

::

trying to figure out what

::

the fuck is going on.

::

And I think it definitely

::

played to its strengths.

::

And then there was another

::

point I had about that

::

oh,

::

do you think that this movie follows

::

that nobody's safe regimen?

::

Because that was one of the

::

things I did like.

::

You have this big,

::

tough Navy SEALs six guy, this black,

::

bald-headed man that's

::

coming in there barking orders around.

::

His ass is one of the first

::

ones to die within 30

::

minutes of the movie.

::

Give or take.

::

In the hallway laser scene,

::

which is always embedded in

::

my damn skull.

::

That was one of the scenes I

::

watched and I was like, oh yeah,

::

what if I am in a hallway?

::

and the lasers are really

::

smart and that motherfucker

::

turned into a damn dice

::

shredder like you know I

::

mean like I'm fucked like

::

that was it and the way to

::

show him getting sliced

::

through the reflection but

::

not directly I was like

::

that's how you safely use

::

your cgi but not having to

::

do a full body or anything

::

like that but still make it

::

impactful in the way that he died

::

And that sequence is what

::

stood out to me in that entire movie.

::

The first time I watched it, it was like,

::

oh yeah, I like knowing the ending,

::

of course.

::

But you think about that

::

laser hallway scene and

::

people immediately know

::

what you're talking about.

::

And I watched that so many times.

::

I like, I just,

::

the other part I like about

::

that scene is you can now

::

watching it being on the podcast.

::

Now I'm like the certain

::

things I look at in movies.

::

You can tell they definitely

::

sat around a room for like

::

a day or two or maybe longer being like,

::

okay, if this was real, what do you,

::

what are you doing?

::

You have these super commandos.

::

How are they avoiding it?

::

And I love the fact that in the sequence,

::

they, they put a guy, uh,

::

Who's just like, well,

::

I'm going to jump over it.

::

And then the laser follows him.

::

And you're like, oh, no, like this word.

::

It's over.

::

Like, game over, man.

::

Fire.

::

I really I really enjoyed that.

::

And you can just tell they

::

thought about it.

::

And I feel like it lends

::

itself to that like video game sequence,

::

too,

::

because if the level is getting harder,

::

the further I get close to

::

where I need to be.

::

Right.

::

Yeah.

::

The first two,

::

I'm going to be able to dodge easy,

::

but then I'm going to have

::

to time my jumps better.

::

Well,

::

I think that they and I think that

::

they they did it from your angle, Brian,

::

where they were like,

::

let's how do we make this

::

as real as possible?

::

But then what I like is that

::

they stuck with it and they said, like,

::

not only how do we make this possible?

::

And by accident, they were like,

::

it's also kind of video gamey,

::

which I think is helpful.

::

So yeah,

::

which makes a big difference since

::

this was only, what,

::

four years after the

::

original game was released?

::

Yeah.

::

I think you can get away

::

with that scene back then.

::

Now I think the viewer would overthink it.

::

Technology is so advanced

::

now that that almost seems

::

like back then seeing that seems like,

::

whoa,

::

there's a hallway with lasers that

::

adjust to whatever the fuck is going on.

::

Kind of unfathomable.

::

to an extent, right?

::

Just like this dungeon and

::

having these things that

::

they're making and whatever

::

the case may be seems like, oh,

::

that's so far out there.

::

Now it doesn't feel as far

::

out there with technology

::

and everything now that

::

people don't have the imagination to

::

kind of just see that and go

::

oh my god this is a well

::

thought out scene I like

::

yeah well even the hologram

::

even the red queen even the

::

red queen hologram I mean

::

holograms show up at

::

concerts now like they're

::

just everywhere and at the

::

time it would have been

::

like that's not real don't

::

trust it it's gonna fool

::

you and I'm sure we were

::

all like oh my god look at

::

that that's right yeah I

::

will and that's the other

::

thing that is kind of

::

covert about this movie is that like

::

Yeah, they don't mention smartphones,

::

but to me,

::

it's a more timeless movie than

::

others of the era because, again,

::

smartphones,

::

but they're underneath the ground.

::

They wouldn't have worked anyway.

::

You don't even need to address it,

::

but it's just like...

::

yeah,

::

like it's these people just trying to

::

survive.

::

And I feel like that's the

::

other thing that always connects with me.

::

I've always connected with

::

survivor stories.

::

That is just something that

::

has always jumped out to me.

::

And like,

::

whether it's video games or in

::

real life and this entire

::

movie is just like, get out alive.

::

That's yeah.

::

That's it.

::

And I,

::

I don't know if that is something

::

that is entertaining and it

::

connects with me.

::

And before it gets away from me though,

::

there are two,

::

there are two plot holes in

::

this movie that I love talking about.

::

Cause there's so much.

::

Um, the first is,

::

did you enjoy the magic

::

hallway that appears after

::

they go back to the laser

::

room after the initial

::

zombies attack them?

::

And then all of a sudden

::

Mila Jovich and blue shirt

::

are like in a different part of the hive.

::

What?

::

Did you notice that?

::

Brian, I did not notice that.

::

So also a testament to how

::

good this movie is and how

::

it like kind of shades some

::

of that stuff.

::

So right.

::

All the commandos are

::

fighting all the zombies.

::

they try to get through a door.

::

One of them gets taken in and they're like,

::

Oh my gosh,

::

like we're going to be overrun.

::

And then like,

::

basically they cut to Mila

::

Jovich and blue shirt

::

walking through the office

::

section because of the plot.

::

They have to get there to find his sister.

::

Like that's the connective tissue.

::

But yeah,

::

the way they set up the hallway,

::

there's no other doors.

::

Like there's no other way

::

out of the laser hallway.

::

But then all of a sudden you can,

::

there's a doorway.

::

We found this other doorway.

::

Oh, weird.

::

There's a doorway here.

::

Oh, fuck.

::

We should have looked.

::

No about weird.

::

And so like,

::

there's somebody call that guy's parents.

::

Yo, that's on us.

::

We fucked up.

::

Like we didn't see the other door.

::

And that's where, look, that's, Hey,

::

we're sorry.

::

Pretty much should have double checked.

::

And like, they don't really address it.

::

It's fine.

::

I don't really think it matters,

::

but it is kind of funny when you're like,

::

there was another door the whole time.

::

Like, really?

::

Okay.

::

That's fine.

::

And then the other one is

::

that you get this basically

::

when they're in the sewers and

::

and like they're trying to

::

crawl out and uh the guy

::

with the computer arm he's

::

like oh no I'm not gonna

::

make it and he like has

::

this entire dramatic

::

overture he puts the gun in

::

his mouth and you hear the

::

gunshot and you're like oh

::

man this guy this guy's not

::

gonna make it and then it

::

cuts back to him and my

::

favorite part is he's like

::

oh there's like a tunnel back here

::

The movie cuts away.

::

I love this movie.

::

It's so silly.

::

I have no idea what was

::

going through Paul W.S.

::

Anderson's head of make it super dramatic.

::

He's going to commit suicide.

::

Actually, there's a tunnel.

::

Go ahead.

::

We'll move on to the next scene.

::

It's such a weird tone shift to me.

::

It's so funny.

::

That's so crazy.

::

I had questions about the

::

final boss zombie scene.

::

Okay.

::

But again, they're not relevant questions.

::

They're questions that

::

they're Doug Wagner questions of like,

::

hey,

::

he evolved when he ate the first human,

::

but he was eating a bunch

::

of other people on the train.

::

Why isn't this thing

::

evolving every six seconds?

::

Like I know, Brian,

::

it's not like it's just

::

like because again.

::

if we go with video game logic, okay,

::

he's only had one body.

::

He needs three bodies to evolve.

::

That's, I mean, you know what I mean?

::

Like he needs to get enough DNA to evolve.

::

That wasn't enough DNA.

::

Like, yeah,

::

it's all explain it away with

::

video game logic,

::

but that is exactly where my brain went,

::

which I was like,

::

shouldn't he be evolving

::

like I gotta fill up that a

::

lot of he's gotta fill up

::

and that's the clock that

::

we're all fighting against

::

as the playable characters

::

yes right right god exactly

::

can't let the liquor fill up the meter

::

A lot of your questions are

::

being answered through video game logic.

::

And I think that that's half

::

the premise of the movie is like, yeah,

::

it's just think of it like a video game.

::

And when you do that, it's like, yeah,

::

I get,

::

I woke up half naked white woman in

::

a tub.

::

Hey,

::

gas released itself to knock my ass

::

out in case of an emergency.

::

I go down this tunnel with CO2 sticks.

::

I trust the big black man to

::

lead us to freedom.

::

Like, yeah, for sure.

::

Then you go.

::

Yes.

::

You find the dogs,

::

you find this computer that

::

leads you astray,

::

still following video game logic.

::

This all makes sense to me

::

because I don't know where

::

else I would go.

::

Where else are you going to go?

::

And then I crack a code and

::

get out of there with a crack needle.

::

Man, Colin Salmon, his voice is just, man,

::

just incredible.

::

He's in a lot of those kind of movies too.

::

Punisher Warzone and Alien

::

vs. Predator he's been in too.

::

That was another movie directed by Paul

::

No, it was.

::

It was.

::

Brian, I gave you the list.

::

He did Resident Evil.

::

You're right.

::

Brian, I gave you the list.

::

He did Resident Evil.

::

I gotta do my homework.

::

He did Death Race.

::

He did Alien vs. Predator.

::

He did the other Resident Evil movies.

::

And then he also did Monster

::

Hunter that came out in 2020.

::

I mean, look.

::

And Mortal Kombat.

::

Sorry,

::

that's the pinnacle was Mortal

::

Kombat before this.

::

I did bring this up in the chat.

::

And like people like to make

::

fun of the fact that

::

Anderson and Mila Jovich

::

just keep making movies as

::

a married couple.

::

And it's like, that's fine.

::

That's a good life.

::

We should encourage that.

::

Like,

::

like he just gets to see his wife

::

kick ass every day.

::

This whole podcast is

::

predicated on three friends

::

that just like talking to

::

each other about movies.

::

Who the fuck are we to be like,

::

shame on you for doing

::

things with the people you like.

::

That doesn't make any sense.

::

Just keep making them.

::

Go ahead.

::

I think I enjoyed watching

::

it and feeling Brian's

::

enjoyment through this movie.

::

I love the fact that you did

::

not pick a Star Wars movie

::

because I think we have

::

enough discussions

::

personally to know why we love Star Wars.

::

I know you know the lore and

::

the history of Star Wars

::

and I can come to you with

::

any Star Wars question for sure.

::

This movie felt like another

::

piece of Brian that I think is,

::

it explains a lot.

::

The female led roles.

::

I think that is a major

::

piece of who he is.

::

This, this sci-fi horror.

::

It's a B movie.

::

Like I don't need nothing

::

that's super fancy dolled

::

up makeup or any,

::

sometimes the most simplest

::

version of a movie just fucking works.

::

So I did enjoy watching this.

::

Yeah, I will.

::

No,

::

and that means a lot that you said that

::

because like, yeah,

::

I definitely wanted to push myself.

::

Like I knew I could take an easy out,

::

but like like Resident Evil

::

is just kind of one of

::

those movies that I feel

::

like has become a little

::

bit of a punch line, by the way,

::

for good reason.

::

Like there are six of these.

::

Seven, technically.

::

Kind of outrageous.

::

And they do keep getting more outrageous.

::

And just like you said.

::

But I think for me,

::

this first one was so special.

::

And I'm glad that it

::

resonated with you all.

::

Because as I was re-watching it, I'm like,

::

this is like a B-horror flick.

::

But when I watched this,

::

this was just new and

::

improved everything.

::

And I will say, full disclosure,

::

I did not go into this

::

expecting to enjoy it.

::

I was wondering how it would

::

land with you.

::

I went into this expecting to be like, ugh,

::

yuck.

::

But I really overall, again,

::

I think Marcus, you said it best.

::

It's something I can have on

::

in the background.

::

I don't have to pay attention to it.

::

It's not like I have to

::

listen to the dialogue.

::

I can look up and be like, oh,

::

this is the sewer part.

::

And then I can move on.

::

I don't have to invest a ton

::

of mental or emotional energy in it,

::

which is kind of nice.

::

And the other thing about it too was like,

::

I was also still figuring

::

out what my dyslexia was.

::

I had a pretty good handle on it,

::

but I've always, right,

::

I've always been attracted

::

to things that are visually

::

telling the story.

::

And you could probably watch

::

this movie on mute and you

::

know exactly what's happening.

::

You know what the beats are.

::

like you you understand like

::

those are the monsters and

::

they're bad and like that's

::

the lady in the red dress

::

she's pay attention to her

::

right like you get those

::

main beats um and I think

::

that's one of the other

::

reasons so like I didn't

::

have to worry so much about

::

like parsing out like and

::

hearing and listening which

::

is part of my dyslexia and

::

like my brain works a

::

little bit harder to

::

process that so like to to

::

enjoy this I could I didn't

::

have to worry about that aspect um

::

That was another piece.

::

That's very interesting you

::

said that because you are

::

absolutely correct.

::

The follow the lady in the red dress,

::

the visual, that's very good.

::

That's very good.

::

It's simple.

::

It's simple at parts,

::

but also I feel like the

::

way they constructed it,

::

it's entertaining.

::

It's more than Mila Jovic

::

running around in a red dress.

::

It's like,

::

No,

::

there's something weird around that

::

corner.

::

No, what are these lasers going to do?

::

And so it just kind of gives

::

you that center point,

::

and you kind of go off from there.

::

I'm rambling a little bit,

::

but that's one of the reasons I enjoy it.

::

Well, no,

::

I think that's the more

::

impressive part is that small,

::

minor detail,

::

and then going back to the

::

Alice in Wonderland, right?

::

She is wearing a red dress.

::

All of the Navy SEALs people

::

are in black and all black.

::

There's one dude in a plain shirt.

::

You have the other regular

::

t-shirt guy with the hairy arms.

::

Everybody else is pretty much basic.

::

They find a way to highlight

::

her as this is the lead and

::

who you follow.

::

Everybody else might not be safe,

::

but this is who is going

::

to... I don't know.

::

That's interesting.

::

They even give her a black

::

jacket and black combat boots.

::

They cover up the red dress

::

almost immediately after she puts it on,

::

which, by the way, is, of course,

::

a huge stylistic flourish.

::

Of course,

::

you wouldn't wear a dress to go

::

fight zombies.

::

Of course, you wouldn't, but...

::

i feel like that stylistic

::

flourish is feeding into

::

like yes this is different

::

and it's weird and no I

::

know it doesn't make sense

::

but I'm enjoying it yeah

::

well I mean if we think

::

what a color is supposed to

::

do right like red is

::

supposed to capture your

::

attention it's supposed to

::

be like it's supposed to

::

convince your brain that

::

like that's something that

::

I need to watch and pay

::

attention to at all times

::

it's why the guy in the

::

blue the blue shirt guy

::

he's the one that we're

::

supposed to he's the one

::

who's supposed to be trying

::

to make us feel better

::

You know what I mean?

::

When the blood isn't coagulating,

::

who's giving the reason?

::

Like, oh, the blood is coagulating.

::

Why is that a problem?

::

Well,

::

it would only do that if they were dead.

::

He's supposed to be

::

providing you and feeding

::

you with that information

::

that's supposed to make you feel better.

::

If you turn it at the very end,

::

what happens...

::

the thing that's making her

::

feel better the blue shirt

::

is taken out of that scene

::

and we're supposed to have

::

this visceral response that

::

our safety net it's now no

::

longer safe wow I've been

::

rewatching this movie for

::

20 years and I never even

::

thought about it that way

::

that's beautiful that's beautiful

::

goodnight everybody I mean I

::

just want to do one last

::

thing that I think is

::

really funny and weird so

::

the end of this movie right

::

is Alice like basically

::

picking up a shotgun in a

::

deserted zombie city right

::

and I would like to point

::

out this movie came out in 2002

::

And the Walking Dead comic

::

released in 2003.

::

And all I'm saying is that

::

she certainly has some Rick

::

Grimes vibes waking up in a

::

hospital with nobody around.

::

Oh, I think that's weird.

::

Yeah, I could see that.

::

I could see that.

::

Obviously, it could be coincidental.

::

They're two completely different stories.

::

But when I finished watching it,

::

I was like, well,

::

that's kind of how Rick

::

Grimes story starts.

::

That's very interesting.

::

I like the way it ends

::

because it feels like a beginning.

::

Yeah.

::

me too well and it took a

::

risk like it wasn't a sad I

::

would say it's not a it's

::

not a tied up ending like

::

it's actually pretty

::

terrible the one person she

::

could trust is now a

::

monster well spoilers for

::

resident evil apocalypse

::

but like it's just her like

::

she what did she just lived

::

and now she has to survive

::

again like that's I don't

::

know I think that's awesome

::

I think that's such a cool story

::

That is cool.

::

I love this.

::

Brian, thanks for sharing that with us.

::

Yeah, it was a lot of fun.

::

Thanks for coming along on the ride,

::

y'all.

::

Thanks for letting us be

::

tall enough to ride the ride.

::

Absolutely.

::

Anytime.

::

Doug,

::

I'm excited for your movie when you

::

choose it.

::

Yeah, what are you choosing?

::

Jesus.

::

Brittany asked me that this weekend,

::

and she goes,

::

what are you going to choose?

::

And I'm like, I don't know.

::

I have a couple ideas that

::

are my knee jerk,

::

and if we go with one of those...

::

It's going to be depressing.

::

That's okay.

::

That's okay.

::

But again, when we get into it,

::

It's a very specific,

::

like you'll understand.

::

Comedic depression.

::

That's what I'm waiting for too, Marcus.

::

I feel like Marcus and I are

::

both over here like, how rough is,

::

how depressing is this?

::

It's only a matter of, to me, which one?

::

Which route do you take?

::

You know, like I know my guy.

::

My guys, I know the vibe.

::

That's true.

::

And it's just a matter of

::

which route you decide to take.

::

Yup.

::

Yup.

::

Yeah.

::

Yeah.

::

But again,

::

I'm going to try and stick with

::

ones that you haven't like

::

things that we haven't seen.

::

Cause that's what I've appreciated.

::

I didn't see,

::

don't be a menace in South

::

central while drinking your

::

juice in the hood.

::

I didn't, I've never seen resident evil.

::

So I'm going to try to pick

::

something that neither one

::

of you like watched before.

::

So I'll, I'll kind of go about that way,

::

but this has been a fun series.

::

And like I said,

::

I appreciate both of you sharing your,

::

your souls would be a,

::

your movies with us a little bit,

::

which was fun.

::

So, uh,

::

Anything else you guys want

::

to chat about before we

::

close this one out?

::

I think we're good to close

::

the book on the hive.

::

Or if you want, Doug,

::

if this interested you,

::

there are six more movies.

::

If you really...

::

You know what this did give

::

me an itch for?

::

It gave me an itch to try

::

and find the other movies.

::

I think Apocalypse is on a

::

separate streaming service

::

I have to pay for.

::

They're all scattered

::

because I did the same thing.

::

Retribution is on Netflix.

::

The Welcome to Raccoon City, the reboot,

::

it's on Pluto TV, I think.

::

They're all over the place.

::

I do want to watch this did

::

kind of put the like the

::

taste in my mouth for

::

zombie movies again.

::

You know what I mean?

::

Like I am like I could watch.

::

This does get me maybe

::

excited to go back to like

::

Dawn of the Dead or that

::

would be a perfect follow up.

::

But you know what movie this

::

really kind of got me in

::

the mood for 28 days later.

::

oh right also stellar follow

::

I really really like 28

::

days I went a different

::

route for what it gave me

::

because after I couldn't

::

find the the next movie

::

mine wanted to make me

::

watch um underworld oh sure

::

nope that tracks I mean

::

that makes it a classic

::

yeah absolutely yeah yep

::

All right, y'all.

::

Well,

::

thanks everybody for listening to the

::

bonus episode.

::

We'll be back next week with

::

a regularly scheduled episode.

::

But yeah,

::

but in the meantime and in the

::

between time, stay safe, stay healthy.

::

We love y'all.

::

We appreciate y'all.

::

We'll catch y'all next week.

::

Mm-hmm.

::

Uh-huh.

::

Mm-hmm.

::

Mm-hmm.

::

Yes.

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