Episode 16

"Deadpool and Wolverine" Trailer + Spider-Man News aka "Meaty Bits"

Published on: 24th April, 2024

This week we are back breaking down some big announcements in the Marvel/MCU world.

But first we play Catch that Quotable, and fail spectacularly. Then we get into the brand new "Deadpool and Wolverine" trailer that dropped on Monday. Then we finish with talking some Spider-Man 4 speculation, debating when is a good time to introduce Miles Morales.

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Transcript
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I mean, yes, we have, but also here we go.

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welcome to films of black

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and white everybody all

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right all right all right

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I don't do mouth horns.

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You don't do mouth horns.

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You were feeling the, you know,

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DJ Jazzy Jeff,

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like Will Smith summertime.

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So Brian, it's okay.

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It's okay.

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We were all feeling it.

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So it's okay.

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I missed my cue.

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It wasn't like a ton of dead air there.

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It wasn't like a lot of dead air.

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But yeah,

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I went with the Matthew McConaughey.

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I feel like you can't go

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wrong with all right, all right,

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all right.

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That used to be my go-to in

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meetings when I was in student affairs.

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So yeah.

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So yeah, I brought that out.

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It's all reliable.

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It is.

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It is nice to have in your back pocket,

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something you can go to

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whenever you need it.

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Hopefully everybody's doing well.

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It is another fantastic Monday.

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We're happy to be with you

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all today to talk a little

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bit about a lot of little things.

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Like we're going to basically,

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this is kind of the potpourri episode,

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y'all.

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We're going to

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We're going to be a little bit of this,

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a little bit of that before

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we get into a bonus.

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Last week was a little intense.

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Civil War brought a lot out.

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We were talking about war crimes.

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Some of us were maybe

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selecting our favorite ones.

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Who knows?

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Things got really intense.

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We'd have to go to the tape.

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Who knows, really?

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But I guess our podcast knows.

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We recorded everything.

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I'm excited to talk about

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some lighter things.

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Oh, yeah.

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On this episode.

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Yeah.

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But man, before we get into that, Doug,

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how are you doing?

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I'm doing great.

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Got to celebrate a birthday

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party yesterday.

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So Harrison turned seven yesterday.

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So we had a birthday, which went really,

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really well.

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So, I mean, no complaints.

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Things were great.

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So all in all, it was a good weekend.

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Everything went smoothly.

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It was what we wanted it to be.

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And here we are.

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Here we are.

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Happy birthday to Harrison.

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Whoops.

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Yeah, happy birthday to Harrison.

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So I'm glad he had fun.

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That's the most important thing.

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Yes.

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He had his first, like, big kid party,

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like, where he actually liked to,

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you know.

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God damn it.

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Okay, so Roman's in the chat.

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Roman's in the chat.

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His name this week is Sad ASPCA Dog.

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Doug didn't want to help last week.

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Yes, there will be a quote this week,

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Roman.

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Just so you know.

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Yeah, so here we are.

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But Brian, Bubble Wizard, how are you,

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sir?

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Hello.

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Yes, I'm doing great.

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I am the Bubble Wizard,

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according to my children.

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Okay.

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Because one of the

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activities that me and all

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three of my kids can do

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outside is do bubbles.

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Yeah.

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And we have these really long wands.

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We invest in the summer

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infrastructure for outside play.

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So we got bubbles.

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We got like hundreds of chalk.

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Uh, you know, we got a hundred chalk.

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I don't even know what to call them.

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I don't know.

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Whatever.

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We have a ton of pieces of chalk pieces,

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whatever.

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Um, we got, we got a big chunks.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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Chalk chalk pencils, whatever.

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I'm going to look.

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We got, um, we got, we got chalk.

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We got chalk.

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And, uh, so we're, we're,

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we're starting to get into

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summer mode and being outside.

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And I had this one and I was

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just like doing a figure eight.

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And my one kid was just like, dad,

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you're a bubble wizard.

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And I was like, thanks.

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I am.

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bubble wizard so I am a

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bubble wizard I am you know

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what I deserve happiness I

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deserve to be a bubble yeah

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and you know what I love

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those those are also some

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of my favorite moments when

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your kids identify

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something that like is

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rudimentary like I remember

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I was playing with a yo-yo

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once and I just was like

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letting it go and they're like

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you're so good at the yo-yo

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and I'm like uh-huh yep I

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am you should know that I'm

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excellent at the yo-yo so

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it's just always great to

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me like that for now all of

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our children still look up

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to us and are like and I

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was like dad's a bubble

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wizard rather than when

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they're 14 like dad's a douche like

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No, none of our children would say that,

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but I hear they get angsty

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when they become teenagers.

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I mean, yeah, I think my oldest is seven,

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and I'm already starting to get... I mean,

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he's in first grade,

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and he's had some of that recess attitude,

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and I'm like, whoa, okay.

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And I'm like, wow,

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it's only more intense after this.

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What's his favorite piece of

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recess attitude?

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What's the one thing he says

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where you have to like...

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fight back the tear like

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fight back the laughter a

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little bit he uh so Liam

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the other day went on a

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whole streak of like I

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don't care I don't care and

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like he like to his credit

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I'm waiting for Liam to

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listen to this in like 10

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years yeah to his credit

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like he committed to the

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bit this seven-year-old

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looked me dead in the eyes

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and I was like hey kid if

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this continues you're gonna

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lose video games he's like

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well I don't care

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I don't care and I'm like I

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know you care I know you

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care it's Lego Marvel it's

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like your two favorite

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things like I know you care

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and he's like whatever I

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don't care and I'm like you

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totally pick this up on the

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playground it's like a

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defense mechanism but my

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man like this is like

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recess ends like you you live here

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Yep, that's right.

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My favorite from Harrison is, I don't know,

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you tell me.

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Like,

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that's my favorite one that he's been

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doing lately is, I don't know,

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you tell me.

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And we'll say things like, hey, man,

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have you brushed your teeth?

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He'll go, I don't know, you tell me.

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And I'm like...

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because he's not even like

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using it quite right like

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that's amazing that's

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perfect like oh my gosh hey

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did you eat all your peas I

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don't know you tell me and

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he'll like show me the

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plate and I'm like I mean

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yeah you did you could have

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just answered me that way

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like that's my that one is

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my I don't know you tell me

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and I don't care because we

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had a we had a streak oh I

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don't care too brian yeah

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we had a streak but I don't

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know you tell me is my favorite i

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I like I don't know you tell

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me because there are

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literally going to be

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things where it's like no I

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I do need you to tell me

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like I do need you to tell

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me this like I wasn't there

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did you did you do that

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like like yeah yeah man

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it's the best that's that's

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incredible seven-year-olds

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are another level

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seven-year-olds are just

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coming into their own I

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didn't ask you about your

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Chiron sir it you list

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yourself as Doug white girl

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interrupted what's going on there

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so we're going to cover this

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today we got a new

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wolverine and deadpool

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trailer and white girl

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interrupted was my favorite

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nickname for cocaine that

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they used in the trailer so

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there was a string of them

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there was a string of them

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where it was like oh my

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gosh like I love marching

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marching powder white girl interrupted

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Um, they were all really great,

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but for some reason,

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white girl interrupted,

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I thought was hilarious.

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So that's incredible.

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That's incredible.

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But we're going to carry on.

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So you might notice Marcus is in here.

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Uh, the,

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the state of student affairs is

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that he's got stuff to do.

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Um, and here's where we're at,

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but we are going to play a

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little game called catch that quotable,

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uh, catch that quotable.

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Sounds of Doug Wagner.

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The harsh tones of Doug Wagner.

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I can try to T-Swift it,

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but it's going to be ugly

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and nobody wants that.

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Brian, I don't need to hear it.

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You're not breaking up with

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Catch That Quotable.

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We don't need to know.

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We're fine.

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That's it.

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Yep, that's the one.

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So this week we are going to do a quote.

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Now, Roman did send us to the one.

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I'm saving the one that he

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sent us to fill that

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quotable because I feel

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like Marcus would be mad if he missed it.

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And he'd also be mad at us

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if we missed it.

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So we're going to go back to

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last week's quote.

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I don't know why I'm telling

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all of you this,

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but that's what we're going to do.

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No, that's what we should do.

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So, Brian,

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are you ready for this week's quote?

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Doug, hit me.

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I woke up this morning, you know,

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and the sun was shining and

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it was nice and all that type of stuff.

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And the first thing I saw you and I said,

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boy,

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this is going to be a one terrific day.

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So you better live it up

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because tomorrow you'll be nothing.

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You see?

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And I almost was.

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Oh, boy.

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Yeah, that's how I felt too.

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Okay.

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That's how I felt too.

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This is a quote from a piece

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of cinema that was shot with a camera.

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That's most likely in the past 50 years.

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Yep.

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So I'll read it again.

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I don't know what this is.

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I need to stretch this out.

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I woke up this morning, you know,

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and the sun was shining and

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it was nice and all that type of stuff.

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And the first thing I saw

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and the first thing I saw you and I said,

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boy,

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this is going to be one terrific day.

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So you better live it up

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because tomorrow you'll be nothing.

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You see?

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And I almost was.

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No idea.

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OK,

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so the only thing that I can get is

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this is either I don't know

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if it's like a comedic tone or not.

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It feels like it's a comedic tone.

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And so my knee jerk reaction

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is to say this is from like

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Scary Movie 3.

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Like if that's the only

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thing that I can think of,

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like I can see Kevin Hart saying this.

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I'm getting a vibe that it

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is it is an existential piece of cinema.

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If we're going to be using

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the fancy terms here.

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Yeah, that's fancy.

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We're fancy today.

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Mr. Watkins, that's for you.

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That was one of my film, my film teachers.

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I this it feels cheeky,

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but it also feels serious.

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So it feels like this person

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that is speaking is going to die.

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Yes.

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And they see someone and they're like, oh,

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well, this isn't so bad.

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But then they end up living.

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So I'm trying to think of a plot.

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Yeah.

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Like a movie like that.

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Yep.

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You know, there's Angel.

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There's Angel with, I think,

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John Travolta.

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But I feel like that is.

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Is that Phenomenon?

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No, I honestly think the movie was... Oh,

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it was Michael.

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I take it back.

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Oh, Michael, yeah.

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Michael.

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Yeah, it came out in 96.

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I watched that with my parents,

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but y'all don't need to know that.

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Brian,

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that's because this movie and there

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were like a string of

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movies like that movie that

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we all collectively watched

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with our parents.

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Like Angel...

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We all watched Splash with

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our parents at some point in time.

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The movie where Tom Hanks finds a mermaid.

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Contact.

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We all watched Contact.

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We all watched My Stepmother

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is an Alien with Dan Aykroyd.

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We all watched those kind of

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movies with our parents.

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yeah um yeah that I don't

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know michael's coming to

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mind but I i don't feel

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like that's it um I don't

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feel like that's it welcome

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marcus the real big texas

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oh here comes big texas

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holy shit he's got a gun

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yeah just like big texas

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it's just you know his name

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jamal yeah yeah

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Welcome, Marcus.

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Welcome.

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We're in the middle of muddling through.

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I sang Big Texas to myself

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for a majority of the day today.

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Me too.

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Marcus, here's the quote.

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Brian looks very serious.

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His trusty steed is named Jamal.

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We got completely

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sidetracked by Big Texas

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and we're in the middle of

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Catch That Quotable.

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Come on, guys.

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Focus up.

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I woke up this morning and

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the sun was shining and it

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was nice and all that type of stuff.

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The first thing, I saw you and I said, boy,

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this is going to be one

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terrific day so you better

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live it up because tomorrow

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you'll be nothing.

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You see?

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and I almost was,

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we don't know what it is.

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Oh, fuck no.

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I don't know what that is.

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Marcus, you're supposed to come and help.

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Come on, man.

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Please help.

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Deep-ass philosophical.

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I don't know what that is.

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I don't think it's a dogma.

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We had one,

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but we weren't sure if you were

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going to be here,

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so we went to the one from last week.

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I'll be honest.

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I don't know what it is.

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Dogma is a very... That's a deep quote.

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That's a deep pull.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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No, I don't.

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Great.

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I have no guess.

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I'll give you a hint.

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It is a classic.

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It's from 1955.

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I don't know this.

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I don't watch anything where

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racism was still alive and well.

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Fair point.

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That is free the civil rights act.

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So I don't watch anything.

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Nothing before 2024.

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Gotta be black and white, right?

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean,

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I don't think it's A Wonderful Life.

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I don't know when that came out.

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I don't know.

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Roman, give me one word in the title.

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I've looked it up,

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so I can give you a hint.

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Yeah, give me one word in the title.

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I don't know what it is.

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Not like the or an.

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Cause.

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Cause?

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Cause.

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Cause?

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Cause.

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Cause.

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You know, in the 1950s,

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all titles were long as hell.

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Like,

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I'm going to go meet Grandma in the

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Rainbow because... Like, Meet Me in St.

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Louis.

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Which is a real movie.

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It's like, why is that so long?

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It's a wonderful life.

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Miracle on 86th Street

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around the corner and around the bend.

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I don't know what this is still.

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I don't know what this is either.

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Are we white flagging it?

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No guesses?

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Are we just going to white flag it?

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I want one more joke on the

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long movie title thing.

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Mr. Smith goes to Washington.

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I don't know, man.

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They just couldn't.

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They could not have a concise title.

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Yeah, save their life.

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The best years of our lives.

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Anyway, I'm throwing in the towel.

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Cause and effect.

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Here we go.

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It's Rebel Without a Cause.

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Gosh dang it.

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It is considered a classic.

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It is a James Dean classic.

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I wasn't going to get this

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because like Marcus,

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I don't watch things.

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I need to re-watch it.

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I'll give you as many hints

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for the amount of catch

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that quotable you did there.

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Still salty.

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I thought we overcame it.

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We had some scheduling stuff, man.

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We had stuff to do.

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We're doing stuff.

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Did you forget that I was in

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a car with my kids?

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Did you forget?

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Did you forget?

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Marcus,

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do we want to explain Big Texas to Brian?

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What is Big Texas?

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What's happening here?

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Brian,

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I'm going to explain it to you in

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the exact way that it happened.

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That's the best way to do it.

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I'm with my guy, Doug Wagner,

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and my nephew, Harrison.

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Doug invites me to a

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Comic-Con toy con in the mall close by.

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We go up there.

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It was pretty nice.

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They had a lot of fun stuff up there.

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I got me a...

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got me a nice little small

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soldier you know that was

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yes that was a that was a

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find that was a deep find

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too I love that so we had a

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good time so we leave and

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doug's like oh man you know

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do you mind if I go by you

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know uh sam's club so I'm

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like yeah for sure because

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doug is very efficient when

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he goes in the same I don't

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waste any time no no you have to be

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Does not fuck around.

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So he goes in and we're just

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walking around.

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We're shooting the shits and

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we're just talking about like whatever,

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you know, me,

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Harrison and Doug all messing around.

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Sure.

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And so I just passed by.

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We both passed by this big

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Texas cinnamon roll.

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And I just say big Texas cinnamon roll.

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I say it just like that.

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And all of a sudden,

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I don't know who started singing.

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You did.

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It was amazing.

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You did.

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What a lead-in.

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What a lead-in.

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Brian,

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when I tell you this is exactly how

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it happened,

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I saw the Big Texas Cinnamon Roll,

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and my ADHD kicked in,

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and I just started singing,

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here's Big Texas.

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And then I said, like, you know, that's,

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and I was like,

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do you know what the beat is?

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It's dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun.

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And I was like,

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and there's a whip in the background.

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And then for the remainder of the trip,

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he and I just riffed off of Big Texas.

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That's incredible.

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We made a whole song.

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We made a song.

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So the whole song is, here's big Texas.

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Holy shit, he's got a gun.

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Here's big Texas.

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You know these colors never run.

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Here's big Texas.

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His trusty steed is named Jamal.

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He is big Texas.

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He's the hero for us all.

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Wow.

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Well, subscribe.

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I would like to like and

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subscribe to your newsletter.

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We're going to start an old

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ass black and white TV show

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with just this guy who's

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like from Texas and everybody's like, oh,

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holy shit, he's got a good.

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My favorite part was that, the holy shit,

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he's got a good.

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It really took me off guard and I was like,

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no, this is going to be

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it's gonna it's gonna be not

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what you think it's the

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only lyric that doesn't

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make sense to the rest of

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it like no it's shocking

::

but the delivery was spot

::

on it was spot on yeah um

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the best part of this whole

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comic trip is y'all the

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addiction's back I i found

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a I found a hall

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oh boy and the problem is is

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marcus knew precisely when

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it was gonna be a problem

::

it was crazy so one of the

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vendors there he had like

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these bin he had comic

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boxes set up he goes hey

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just you know like all the

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ones that are in that bin

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like they're they're 50 off

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like so if you find

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something like go for it

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and that's where I was like

::

oh shit yeah that's when you knew

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Yep, that's what I knew he had me.

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Because I had, from a while ago,

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I had these three.

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Like this Brian Michael

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Bendis Uncanny X-Men run.

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I had these first three for a while.

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And it was always on my list.

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Like, hey, I'd like to complete.

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You know me, being a completionist.

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Of course.

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And having some OCD.

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I was like,

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I'd really like to complete that.

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I'd really like to complete that.

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So Brian, I did.

::

oh okay listeners he's

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holding a fat stack of

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comics so I went I went

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that was one through three

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I found four through no

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kidding that was just there

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and so wow so now I've got

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some reading to do because

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I guess you do what you all

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can't see behind me is that

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there's a stack here a stack here

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all unread that I need to

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get to at some point in time.

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I need someone to barricade

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this door and just say, hey man,

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you can come out once

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you've read all of it.

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Read, bitch!

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Sit in there and read!

::

Here's the thing, though.

::

I watched my guy lock in in real time,

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Brian.

::

So like, did you really?

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I don't know when the last

::

time you got to be around

::

when you see him locking in.

::

Right.

::

So there was it didn't seem

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like there was like really

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a functional system to

::

anybody who just kind of

::

started like just flowing

::

through comic book.

::

Yeah.

::

Here's what I've noticed.

::

experienced vinyl record

::

player vinyl records

::

lookers people that go to

::

vinyl record stores and

::

people who shop at comic

::

books and even to an extent

::

like clothes shopping yeah

::

they have a system or a way

::

of like combing through

::

things because you kind of

::

know what you're looking

::

for right I can go to a

::

vinyl store and I can just

::

pop through because I know

::

exactly kind of where to

::

look on the vinyl seam I

::

know exactly what the cover

::

like what covers trying to

::

catch my attention

::

For the comic book,

::

the store we usually go to in Sioux Falls,

::

Rainbow Comics and Collectibles,

::

they have a nice system.

::

It's very easy to like – you

::

can go through everything.

::

You can be in there for hours,

::

and it's not for fighting the system.

::

This guy, nice guy,

::

he didn't tell us what the system was,

::

just what the deals were.

::

Got it.

::

It didn't look like there

::

was one because what threw

::

me off was I found like 18,

::

and I was like –

::

i was like where's but I was

::

like 1918 and I was like

::

why are we doing this in

::

reverse order it just

::

didn't make any sense to me

::

and so I was like all right

::

well let's keep going back

::

and see if I can find it

::

and finally I got to that

::

one I was like this is nope

::

fuck all right here we are

::

and I was like and I just

::

once I figured it out once

::

I figured it out I was it

::

was fine it was like you

::

saw the code of the matrix

::

and you're like yep I know

::

Brian,

::

he stopped making jokes and

::

immediately got quiet.

::

All I could hear in my ear

::

was a... He came out with a stack.

::

This is what amazed me.

::

He did the math on the stack

::

of comic books that he got.

::

Basically, he got a hell of a deal.

::

It was actually a great deal.

::

It came out pretty cheap.

::

If you think about it, I got...

::

what was it?

::

Four.

::

So I got like 18, almost 18,

::

19 comics that I got for

::

essentially like 50 bucks.

::

Like, because yeah, they should have been,

::

I did the math in my head.

::

Like I was just running the

::

math in my head as it was going.

::

It was like, yeah, yeah, this makes sense.

::

Like that should have easily

::

been a hundred bucks.

::

Oh, easy.

::

Absolutely easy.

::

Wow.

::

We were, we're fine.

::

So here we are.

::

Wow.

::

That's awesome.

::

But more importantly, y'all,

::

We had a fire trailer

::

released this morning.

::

We got another Deadpool and

::

Wolverine trailer.

::

I don't think this one's going on TV.

::

This was the red band.

::

This is the red band trailer.

::

I guess it was.

::

We'll drop a link in the

::

episode description so that

::

you all can check it out if

::

you haven't already.

::

Gentlemen,

::

first thoughts on this Wolverine

::

Deadpool trailer.

::

I mean,

::

it fulfilled all expectations just

::

by... It caught me off

::

guard with the seriousness of the tone,

::

if I'm just being honest.

::

Yes, I agree.

::

Because everything... It's Deadpool.

::

It's supposed to feel goofy.

::

It's supposed to be funny.

::

And everything we've seen

::

leading up to this point

::

has been that same Deadpool feeling.

::

But this trailer kind of

::

showed the seriousness of

::

what the... Kind of the

::

thick of the plot is in

::

that it pretty much

::

revolves around a Wolverine

::

redemption arc.

::

It appears that way.

::

It certainly feels that way.

::

Yeah.

::

So I thought that was pretty cool.

::

Yeah,

::

I think one thing that jumped out to

::

me immediately was how it

::

this is all multiverse.

::

I don't think we're getting

::

I don't even think we're

::

going to be in Deadpool's world,

::

even if that is the same

::

world as the MCU.

::

Like, I don't think.

::

I don't think we're getting any of that.

::

I think we are immediately

::

multiverse hopping.

::

That was the thing that

::

stood out to me immediately.

::

And I also enjoy that it

::

seems like there's going to

::

be this element of like, no,

::

like Deadpool, for some reason,

::

you're the only one that

::

can go save this particular

::

universe or you're the only

::

person that can recruit

::

Wolverine or something like that.

::

So I'm, I'm really pumped for that.

::

I feel like that's going to

::

be a fun twist and it's Deadpool.

::

I feel like it's going to be

::

irreverent at some point

::

with that concept.

::

And I'm very much here for it.

::

Yeah.

::

And I like that they did it.

::

The tone is serious because

::

there's stuff going on.

::

But they also kept those

::

elements of it of like why

::

you showed up like of those

::

like fourth wall breaking moments.

::

And then even like so

::

staying true to character,

::

which I really like really

::

appreciated a lot, which was.

::

Yeah.

::

Let me know at which point I

::

can just go off.

::

Go for it.

::

Go do it.

::

Do we want to now?

::

Do we want to keep?

::

No, seriously.

::

I want to keep digging up

::

the trailer first.

::

Are we sure?

::

Okay.

::

All right.

::

Listen.

::

Let that dog off the chain.

::

It has nothing to do.

::

It has nothing to do with the trailer.

::

It has something to do with

::

a tweet I saw about the trailer.

::

Oh, that's fine.

::

It's trailer adjacent.

::

It's trailer adjacent.

::

Before we get to that,

::

because I also saw some stuff.

::

Let me get into some of like

::

two other meaty bits that I

::

wanted to... Brian,

::

give us your meaty bits.

::

Motherfucker.

::

I set myself up for that.

::

I really did.

::

I really did.

::

You know what, Brian?

::

I don't even blame you.

::

I mean, no.

::

That was perfect.

::

I mean, you said it.

::

I mean, you sung it.

::

Someone's going to hang it

::

over a middle center plate.

::

I'm going to hit that out of the park.

::

I'll take all your meaty bits.

::

Thank you.

::

You know what?

::

That means a lot.

::

The egg might be meaty bits.

::

Look, the two things...

::

The two meaty bits I wanted

::

to bring to everybody's attention.

::

Bigger than anticipated meaty bits.

::

Quite large.

::

Holy shit, he's got a gun.

::

I don't, but anyway.

::

No,

::

it looks like Cassandra Nova is going

::

to be an antagonist or the

::

main antagonist of this movie.

::

And I have been reading

::

comics for about 30 years now,

::

and I did not know who this person was.

::

And then I looked her up,

::

and I didn't... It's

::

probably one of the most, like, comics,

::

like, character stories I've ever heard.

::

Oh, it's 100%.

::

Like, so basically...

::

Basically,

::

she's on the level of Charles Xavier,

::

I think is the short version here.

::

She has history with Xavier.

::

She's potentially his twin.

::

Kind of, sort of.

::

That was my gist.

::

I also know she was a clump

::

of cells on a sewer wall at one point.

::

Oh,

::

that's because she was his biological

::

twin.

::

Okay, I thought so.

::

And she tried to kill him in the womb?

::

No.

::

Because she's a mama dry.

::

And so basically those folks

::

like absorb and can like

::

shift around to different

::

people based on who they are.

::

And so she she basically

::

like she tried to kill him

::

in the womb when she

::

accepted all of his psychic powers.

::

Well,

::

Charles in the womb used his psychic

::

abilities to drive her out

::

and she became a clump of

::

cells on the wall.

::

Amazing.

::

Fast forward.

::

Amazing.

::

She's a bald woman.

::

There you go.

::

She's a bald woman terrorizing.

::

She's a bald woman version

::

of Charles Xavier.

::

Yeah.

::

Cassandra Nova.

::

I feel like that's a thing

::

here popping out.

::

And then I didn't get this

::

from when I watched the

::

trailer the first time.

::

Excuse me.

::

But it appears that other

::

people picked this out.

::

There are a ton of other

::

X-Men characters in the movies.

::

Some of the Morlocks.

::

We have Azazel from First Class.

::

We've got Pyro.

::

We knew that already.

::

We did know about Pyro.

::

Someone said they saw Toad.

::

Toad was in there.

::

Yeah.

::

So that strike is in there.

::

Yes.

::

Oh my gosh.

::

I'm just I'm really pumped

::

for that because there is

::

so much X-Men history with that.

::

And some of those characters

::

got plenty of time to shine.

::

Others did not.

::

So I'm excited to see how

::

they kind of bring all that.

::

And we know Kevin Feige, he,

::

he gets how to make movies and honor,

::

like give those characters

::

time to breathe without

::

them overstaying their welcome.

::

So I'm pretty excited about that.

::

I'm really curious how that,

::

is going to hit for people

::

who don't know the X-Men movies.

::

So, I don't know.

::

This movie feels like a

::

really weird blend of a reboot,

::

but also nostalgia,

::

but also having it be

::

something new because...

::

we haven't got Wolverine in

::

his classic suit since the

::

beginning of these films in 1999.

::

So we waited now 25 years for this.

::

So I feel like people are

::

understandably hyped for it.

::

And I think that's okay.

::

Like,

::

I don't think we should shame those

::

people.

::

Wolverine was never in a comic suit,

::

which is,

::

I feel like that was really easy

::

to do and nobody ever did it.

::

Yeah.

::

One other thing I'll mention

::

about Cassandra Nova before

::

we pivot over to Marcus's thing.

::

She's also the one.

::

So the most recent episode of X-Men 97,

::

I think we talked about it

::

last week where it was like

::

a big central Sentinel

::

conglomeration that

::

attacked Genosha and the comic book.

::

She's the one responsible for that.

::

she's the one who's

::

responsible for the

::

genocide on Genosha because

::

it's a relic of her brother

::

started it and she wanted

::

to tear down everything

::

that he created so she

::

attacked and did the

::

genocide in Genosha can't

::

remember the issue but it

::

definitely happened

::

I mean, yeah,

::

I have not run into her in my comics.

::

No, neither have I. At all.

::

So I'm kind of... To be honest,

::

I'm kind of excited just to

::

see the movie version.

::

Yeah, me too.

::

I don't really feel like I

::

need to go read a bunch of comics.

::

I know that there's like a

::

comic... There's a story

::

where Jean Grey talks about it, but I...

::

I don't know where to track it down.

::

And I'm like, you know what?

::

I'm okay.

::

Like I'm okay with the movies.

::

The way she gets,

::

the way she gets beaten in

::

one issue of the comics is it's all like,

::

when we say it's like hashtag comics,

::

this is the best way.

::

This is like the most insane way.

::

Charles separates his mind

::

into a million pieces and

::

goes into the minds of

::

everybody and helped like drives her out.

::

And just like,

::

it's just the most insane

::

thing you'll ever hear.

::

So yeah.

::

You know, yeah,

::

it just kind of feels

::

like... Cassandra Nova kind

::

of feels like someone was

::

in the writing room and they're like,

::

who's a good match for Xavier?

::

And then they just kind of

::

conjured this out of thin air.

::

Amazing.

::

Amazing stuff.

::

His twin!

::

Yeah, exactly.

::

And I will say,

::

I think it's kind of a

::

unique thing because, I mean,

::

she could be a Charles from

::

a version of a... Like,

::

you know what I mean?

::

He is a freak.

::

Absolutely is a freak.

::

100%.

::

He's down to clown.

::

She could be the...

::

Thank you.

::

He wants to put some oil on that bald head,

::

and he just wants you to rub it.

::

That motherfucker was ready

::

to bark for his wife.

::

Yes.

::

In the episode, this motherfucker said,

::

they think that I'm your pit.

::

And she says, calm down.

::

I'll make you bark later.

::

And he said, I'm excited for that.

::

I mean, yeah, essentially.

::

Excellent.

::

I mean,

::

she could be a Charles from an

::

alternative universe.

::

I mean, right?

::

I mean, like, it's possible.

::

That's the thing with this is that, Brian,

::

you're right.

::

This is multiverse.

::

So she could come from

::

anywhere and be a relic of anything.

::

So there you go.

::

Yeah.

::

Marcus, I'm taking your leash off.

::

No.

::

Hold on.

::

Go nuts.

::

Go nuts.

::

You want to get nuts?

::

You want to get nuts?

::

I felt racist what I just said.

::

Yeah, I was going to go pit.

::

I was just going to ride right past it.

::

I acknowledged the mistake.

::

You did.

::

Hey, Marcus, take it away.

::

That's what makes him a great white.

::

All right.

::

Listen, here's what happens.

::

So I saw somebody pulled my phone,

::

literally just died.

::

But the post,

::

the tweet that I saw was a screen.

::

Now,

::

my favorite part of this was the fire

::

ass money shot that they got,

::

which they let us bask in

::

it for a nice little nice few seconds.

::

Wolverine sleeveless walking

::

around the corner with.

::

Yes.

::

Yes.

::

We got what we wanted.

::

We get two different

::

versions of Wolverine's classic outfit,

::

which is one that has long

::

sleeves on it and then one

::

without long sleeves on it.

::

So he walks around the corner.

::

The tweet said this.

::

It says, wow,

::

how could they ruin such a...

::

Why would they take the

::

armored shoulder pads off?

::

This is such a waste of a classic outfit.

::

Or they ruined it, basically, somehow,

::

some way.

::

Let me tell y'all this.

::

Shut the fuck up.

::

There's nothing ever fucking

::

good enough for y'all.

::

And y'all,

::

we finally get Hugh Jackman old at, like,

::

no offense to Hugh Jackman,

::

but nobody's supposed to be

::

looking like this.

::

And doing this type of stuff,

::

he's back on his Wolverine regimen.

::

The dude still looks good.

::

It's obviously a different

::

version of Wolverine, too.

::

So, like, in his face,

::

you can kind of see more

::

disgruntled Wolverine.

::

You talking this tweet?

::

This is the exact tweet.

::

What'd it say?

::

It says, someone please tell... Thank you,

::

Brian.

::

Someone please tell me why

::

they took off the shoulder

::

guards when the sleeves are off.

::

Ruins the whole Wolverine look.

::

And up to you, I want to say, Alex,

::

shut the hell up.

::

Enjoy the damn movie.

::

I mean...

::

What are you upset about?

::

You literally made him do

::

bicep and tricep workouts

::

for the better part of

::

three months so he can flex

::

and drive his claws into

::

somebody and you're not

::

going to take those sleeves off?

::

Get the fuck off, man.

::

I don't understand.

::

I don't understand this

::

tweet because also

::

Wolverine in the comics

::

has... That man has so many looks.

::

He's on so many teams.

::

He's in so many relationships.

::

I guess that one doesn't count.

::

But he has an outfit that is

::

sleeveless without the shoulder guards.

::

Like...

::

I don't understand why this

::

is even an issue.

::

Let Hugh be jacked, man.

::

I don't get it.

::

I don't get it, man.

::

Of all the things to nitpick

::

in this trailer,

::

you're going to talk about shoulder pads?

::

I hate how good that was, Brad.

::

I'm not even mad about it.

::

That's despicable how good that was.

::

Let Hugh be jacked, man.

::

Listen,

::

I just want to tell everybody to

::

shut the hell up.

::

Enjoy the trailer or not.

::

I'm at a point where, yes,

::

vocalize your opinion

::

because you have a phone

::

and you have an ex-account,

::

which I'm about to delete soon.

::

I just want to let everybody know.

::

Do it.

::

Do it.

::

At least take the app off your phone.

::

It'll do you wonders.

::

This is the most disgusting

::

app I've ever had in my life.

::

The amount of right-wing

::

propaganda that I get on

::

this fucking app is terrible.

::

It's fucking terrible.

::

Anyway...

::

elon kiss my ass so anyway

::

stop complaining about

::

little shit I think you

::

should just enjoy the

::

trailer I think we're

::

finally going to get

::

something here you know

::

about deadpool they talk

::

about there's a new theory

::

that they introduce that

::

talks a little bit about

::

when when they um when an

::

anchor figure or person

::

dies in a in a multiverse

::

realm that world dies

::

And so they will go to this

::

new idea that there will be

::

a character in each

::

universe that is important to it.

::

So if that person dies,

::

the entire world eventually

::

decays and breaks down.

::

Oh, okay.

::

So, Doug, check me on this,

::

but I'm pretty sure that's

::

the idea of Nexus beings that...

::

there is a being that is

::

connected to other realities,

::

but in their own reality,

::

they're essentially like,

::

they're the most important

::

use your terminology.

::

They're the anchor.

::

Yes.

::

And I feel like this is a,

::

if we're going down this rabbit hole,

::

um we do have stuff in the

::

mcu pointing to wanda as

::

that person and this and

::

yes I do have an affinity

::

for scarlet witch but I

::

also feel like it's

::

important to call that out

::

there was a whole fucking

::

commercial for it in

::

wandavision the nexus yeah

::

the nexus being I was

::

thinking it was spider-man

::

but yes wanda makes more sense well

::

I mean, it's from right.

::

It's from the text that we have.

::

I also feel like the MCU.

::

Honestly,

::

what I'm waiting for the MCU to

::

do is be like, oh,

::

you thought this was the main universe?

::

Check this out.

::

And then it's like a whole

::

different thing.

::

Brian.

::

I do want to add to this

::

point because I don't want

::

to bask on it too long,

::

but I think it kind of connects the dots.

::

Tom Holland has said today

::

in an interview that he

::

plans on playing Spider-Man

::

for a very long time.

::

He said he owes his career to Spider-Man,

::

and he's actually a part of

::

the early creative

::

processes to developing Spider-Man,

::

which I think is very interesting, right?

::

Which means we can get grown Peter Parker.

::

We'll get those a long time ago.

::

We predicted on this pod

::

that they would do high

::

school Peter Parker.

::

That's a three.

::

college peter parker and

::

then adult peter parker and

::

then I think that that's

::

where he would like kind of

::

pass it over to miles

::

morales gives you a kills

::

two birds with one stone

::

you get to age out of

::

spider-man and then start

::

an entirely new spider-man

::

with miles morales and then

::

kind of bring him back

::

periodically right also in

::

addition to I think it's

::

very interesting that

::

fantastic four takes place

::

in a different universe

::

okay um the universe or

::

time is it universe oh it's

::

I think it's both.

::

I think it's an entirely

::

different universe and time

::

because they said it's

::

based on a futuristic 60s something.

::

Yeah,

::

based on what they've said in interviews,

::

we're unsure.

::

We're unsure if it's our

::

timeline and our time.

::

Yes.

::

And then in addition to that, there is.

::

Oh, God, it's fantastic for.

::

And then there's one more.

::

Oh, X-Men,

::

the new X-Men that we got at the

::

end of the Marvels.

::

That takes place in an

::

entirely different universe, too,

::

as well.

::

Yeah.

::

I don't think you're far off, Brian,

::

by saying they're they're

::

like six one six.

::

Maybe the universe we're familiar with.

::

It won't be the one that we

::

should be comfortable with.

::

I think it'll all change.

::

Yeah.

::

And I don't know if they'll get away.

::

I don't know if they're

::

going to like totally destroy 616.

::

I don't think it's going to

::

be like a Deadpool killed

::

the Marvel universe type thing,

::

which I read for the first time,

::

by the way, this past weekend.

::

But I think.

::

I don't know.

::

It makes me wonder how

::

they're going to play with it.

::

And I also enjoy the idea of

::

them really establishing

::

nexus or the anchored folks of like, Oh,

::

it's like this person dies.

::

This entire world dies.

::

Um,

::

And then, yeah,

::

exactly what Mason is saying,

::

the incursions from the

::

Multiverse of Madness, which is, like,

::

probably, like,

::

my biggest gripe with the MCU right now.

::

Like,

::

because they... That's... You're

::

saying this is the Multiverse saga,

::

and then, like,

::

you haven't moved that...

::

You haven't moved that meter forward for,

::

like... Jeez, I...

::

Until June or July, right?

::

Like, right.

::

If you haven't touched it for years, like,

::

and let me correct myself.

::

And you've had almost a dozen projects.

::

There you go.

::

Like,

::

I wouldn't mind if it was like one

::

thing a year.

::

That's, that's fine.

::

If it was phase one MCU, that's fine.

::

But like,

::

you've had about 10 projects

::

to address this or figure

::

it out and nothing's happened.

::

I definitely think all your

::

anchors are going to be in

::

the last Avengers movie

::

when they do the Avengers Secret Wars.

::

I agree.

::

All of your anchors,

::

the important people that

::

are supposed to be there,

::

will get pulled in to

::

participate in this.

::

And whatever happens with

::

the Beyonder or not the Beyonder or King,

::

I think that's how they destroy 616.

::

And they bring all of these

::

different universes to one universe.

::

Your incursion is going to be this new 617,

::

618 is the new multiverse.

::

Mm-hmm.

::

I agree.

::

I do feel like it's gonna

::

pull from Oh my gosh,

::

I want to get this right.

::

The 2015 Secret Wars.

::

It's not Secret Wars two,

::

which was like written in the 80s.

::

And it's not the original

::

Secret Wars wars more.

::

Yeah, I think I think I have it over here.

::

Let me give you the okay.

::

Yeah,

::

it's the most recent secret of the wars.

::

War Machine and Miss Marvel are kissing.

::

Yes.

::

Is it the Jonathan Hickman?

::

Yes.

::

Asad, Asad Ribic.

::

Yes.

::

That one was from, Oh,

::

this is not going to help us with it.

::

That's okay.

::

Carry on.

::

I'll keep looking.

::

Authors are even helpful.

::

Like the Hickman secret wars,

::

I think is that's good.

::

And the idea there was that

::

they did pull apart all

::

these universes and they

::

made a battle world of all

::

those universes.

::

But then after that,

::

It was like, this is the one continuity.

::

Like, this is it.

::

Everybody's here and we're done.

::

Which part of me would be

::

sad to see the multiverse go away.

::

But the other part of me is like, man,

::

like the way you all handled it.

::

I'm not like super pumped

::

with how you've handled it.

::

And I'd kind of be OK clarifying.

::

closing the chapter on it

::

because I also think

::

there's a fun way to end it

::

and like if we're having

::

all these different types

::

of heroes battling or

::

villains battling each

::

other I don't really think

::

there's another way you can

::

top that with having the

::

multiverse door still open

::

right no it's got to shut

::

at some point because

::

that's where I mean that's

::

where Marvel really started to

::

They didn't know how to... I

::

don't want to say they

::

didn't know how to handle it,

::

but they got really

::

distracted by whataboutism.

::

I feel like they kind of...

::

You know what I mean?

::

It was like,

::

but what about Doctor Strange?

::

And what about his

::

girlfriend who's

::

technically a daughter of Dormammu?

::

Remember when we introduced that randomly?

::

This is all stuff that they were just like,

::

and then we could do that,

::

and then we could do that.

::

It just felt like someone was just...

::

They were playing improv in

::

the writing room.

::

And then what?

::

No, that's it.

::

No, no, no.

::

And then what?

::

They just needed to stop.

::

it really did and I i feel

::

like you know and this and

::

this happened to dc2 in

::

comic book form with crisis

::

on infinite earths and I

::

love that the entire reason

::

they did crisis on infinite

::

earths as a comic was like

::

we gotta clean this up we

::

gotta kill people we gotta

::

trip we gotta trip some fat

::

you guys like I love how

::

crisis of infinite earths

::

is held up as like oh this

::

is like the comic but it's

::

like really a glorified custodian

::

I'm just like, I gotta clean this up.

::

Flashpoint is the same thing, right?

::

It's DC's go-to every time

::

they want to mainstream

::

something or introduce new

::

characters or whatever the

::

fuck they want to do.

::

Make Flash run backwards and fix it all.

::

He runs faster, Doug,

::

and then he goes backwards, okay?

::

Come on, man.

::

Sorry,

::

the Flash movie threw me off and now

::

I'm all screwed up about how he does it.

::

Put him in the chrono

::

bowl there now brian now I'm

::

back on track thanks got it

::

don't forget the spaghetti

::

randomly oh my gosh oh my

::

gosh um yeah I oh my god

::

what a wild terrible movie

::

that is still not good that

::

movie really they looked at

::

that shit and was like put

::

it out yeah fuck it we

::

don't care honestly that's

::

the point where I knew it

::

was just kind of all made

::

up in like TV executive

::

world like that's when I

::

knew like we would do a

::

better job because like you

::

look at the flash and then

::

you hear what Batgirl was

::

gonna be and you're like

::

you're telling me that we

::

worked on this for years to

::

get this out the door

::

But you're telling me

::

there's a literal finished

::

movie with Brendan Fraser

::

as the villain and the

::

woman from In the Heights as Batgirl?

::

And you're telling me we're

::

going to trash the Batgirl,

::

but we're going to make the

::

Ezra Miller property,

::

who's super problematic.

::

They have a lot going on.

::

We're going to put that out, though.

::

You know what it probably was?

::

They were talking to the

::

they probably were like he

::

was having a conversation

::

with like his seven year old nephew,

::

Brian, to throw it back early.

::

And he's like, it's really bad.

::

I'm not sure people are going to like it.

::

And the seven year old was just like,

::

I don't care.

::

Put it out.

::

And he was like, all right, fuck it.

::

We'll put it out.

::

What is this boss, baby?

::

I mean, that would explain a lot.

::

It absolutely would.

::

Fast and Furious franchise, honestly,

::

would make a lot of sense.

::

um how much y'all need to

::

make a better movie oh my

::

god we need we need we need

::

200 patreon 200 patreon top

::

tier members and we will

::

make a better minimum well

::

we gotta get it lower

::

that's global I mean I mean

::

all I'm saying is if we

::

were in the decision room

::

and be like no you put out

::

batgirl yeah immediately

::

let me answer roman's

::

question definitely face

::

Roman,

::

if you just want a better story

::

that's written, I mean,

::

I can make a better written

::

story for like 50 bucks.

::

The visuals are going to be dog shit,

::

but the story will be much better.

::

Now, if you want high quality visuals,

::

yeah,

::

we're talking like at least 500 more

::

top tier Patreon members.

::

At a minimum.

::

For a year.

::

For a year.

::

Do it.

::

Okay, send me your memo.

::

Okay, cool.

::

Stay cool.

::

I don't know.

::

Anyway,

::

that's what I knew it was all made up.

::

We're getting into universes

::

and multiverses.

::

Before I transition us to

::

the Tom Holland stuff,

::

does anybody have anything

::

else they want to say about Deadpool or

::

I'm really excited.

::

I like the cocaine jokes.

::

Cocaine jokes are my favorite.

::

The characters, the Deadpool dog.

::

I think you can tell Ryan

::

Reynolds really wanted to do this movie.

::

He's been talking about it for a while.

::

And I love Ryan Reynolds as

::

Deadpool because he takes

::

this character serious for

::

how silly and goofy the character is.

::

I think I'm starting to like

::

Ryan Reynolds more and more

::

as a human being.

::

Like, I think like the more like, okay.

::

I mean, it's just, I, I always kind of,

::

I always looked at him like.

::

oh look at this pretty boy

::

he's probably a dick that's

::

probably a dick like wow

::

wow like I i that's just

::

kind of that's kind of how

::

I am is like if someone if

::

someone if someone's like

::

too funny too good looking

::

my my response is this

::

motherfucker probably you

::

know he's got some fucking

::

skeleton in his closet that

::

he doesn't want to tell anybody

::

But after watching the

::

Welcome to Wrexham

::

documentary where you got

::

to see him as a human being

::

and his passion stuff here,

::

I retract my previous

::

statement that he's probably not a dick.

::

Look,

::

I know we don't do a lot of romantic

::

comedies on this podcast,

::

but the proposal with Sandra Bullock,

::

he's phenomenal.

::

He blends that charming Ryan

::

Reynolds aesthetic with

::

being super sincere, and it's nice.

::

It's a good, nice...

::

date movie whether you've

::

been married for 10 years

::

or or maybe you're just

::

you're just setting out on

::

your relationship trying to

::

figure out what this is

::

what about marcus what like

::

is he's not dating but he's

::

can he watch it by himself

::

or does he have to watch it

::

with somebody that's fucked

::

up that's fucked up that's

::

by yourself yes yeah I'll

::

just take my vaseline with

::

me too and watch the movie

::

We have some chats in the

::

chat that are saying his

::

interactions with his wife, Blake Lively,

::

are fantastic.

::

They are cute.

::

They are so cute.

::

Look,

::

I'll acknowledge that something

::

happened to me where

::

someone who was really

::

funny and really pretty...

::

like said or did something

::

to me and now I've just

::

written off anybody that

::

way as like wow you know

::

what I mean like I'm just

::

now holding them all

::

accountable for one thing I

::

don't know I don't know but

::

I might write a song or an

::

album about it I hear those

::

do pretty well brian move

::

into stop moving to

::

spider-man before this

::

turns we're gonna we're

::

gonna transition here to

::

star wars uh not star wars spider-man man

::

We're talking about Spider-Man.

::

Anyway,

::

Deadline had a piece come out today

::

and it was an exclusive

::

interview with Tom Holland.

::

And the big takeaway here is

::

that Spider-Man 4 with Tom

::

Holland is in development.

::

They are currently in the script phase.

::

They are taking scripts.

::

Tom Holland is excited and

::

he is part of the early creative team,

::

which was the really,

::

I feel like that's the big

::

zinger here from this series.

::

deadline piece is that Tom

::

Holland is involved with

::

the creatives at the very,

::

very beginning of this.

::

So Spider-Man 4, it's probably on the way.

::

I think they've already got these scripts.

::

Well, he said it in a weird way.

::

It felt very PR doctored.

::

Here's the quote.

::

Quote, we're figuring it out.

::

We're at the stage where it's post-strike,

::

so we're waiting for those

::

scripts to come in.

::

Oh, he's lying.

::

He's lying.

::

So I thought that everybody

::

knew Spider-Man 4 was

::

already coming out because

::

there were already heavily

::

rumored who's going to appear in it.

::

Because Sony and Kevin Feige

::

were going back and forth

::

about which direction to

::

take Spider-Man 4.

::

Sony wanted to go multiverse, like bigger.

::

And then Kevin Feige wanted

::

to do more ground level heroes,

::

all involving like

::

Daredevil to some extent.

::

And maybe even like, you know,

::

Spider-Man running into Daredevil,

::

not as like mentor mentor,

::

but like as two guys that

::

just like whatever.

::

Because the synopsis came

::

out about Spider-Man 4 already.

::

Oh, really?

::

Yeah.

::

It was like it might have been leaked.

::

So take it with a grain of salt.

::

But it just kind of said

::

like along the lines of the

::

more Peter Parker has Peter

::

Parker is now only Spider-Man.

::

And the more he becomes Spider-Man,

::

the less he becomes Peter

::

Parker and basically how

::

he's losing himself.

::

And it's only Spider-Man

::

that remains here.

::

Sidney Sweeney was also

::

rumored to be Black Cat and

::

Black Cat is also like

::

rumored to be like the love

::

triangle with MJ will happen.

::

MJ will get her memories

::

back of Peter and start

::

getting it all back.

::

So it's like that stuff that

::

I had been reading up on.

::

So I don't know.

::

And that our guys is like

::

rumored to be the director

::

that they want to lean into

::

that did Multiverse of Madness.

::

Sam Raimi?

::

Oh,

::

that's weird because he came out in an

::

article and I'll find it.

::

He came out at WonderCon.

::

He dispelled the rumor.

::

He said, I already did Spider-Man.

::

Why would they want me to do it again?

::

Even if they offered it to Raimi,

::

I don't think he would take it.

::

Really?

::

You think so?

::

No, I don't think he'd touch it.

::

He had such a negative

::

experience on Spider-Man 3

::

that I think it would take

::

a lot for him to come back.

::

I think it would be a lot of

::

money that Kevin Feige,

::

I don't think... Marvel's

::

not in the doghouse,

::

but they're not in La La Land anymore.

::

They gotta actually...

::

I want to phrase this the right way.

::

They need to be performing

::

as they were pre-2021.

::

Chapik's not in charge anymore.

::

The instructions of give me more, more,

::

more is gone and Iger,

::

love him or hate him, said,

::

I really want to have quality stories.

::

If the story's not quality,

::

don't turn it out.

::

I think there's a lot more critique of

::

you know of the of that type

::

of stuff so I do think it

::

would be funny I mean I i

::

agree with uh I the the

::

rumor what am I trying to

::

say the rumor you're

::

talking about marcus of

::

kevin feige wanting to be

::

having spider-man be a

::

street level hero I think

::

that is the right direction

::

after no way home you can't

::

top it I don't think you

::

can top no way home as far

::

as like multiversal shenanigans

::

And I think the way you try

::

to thread that needle is

::

like he's a college student.

::

Like he is a college student

::

that survived multiversal events.

::

And how do you deal with that?

::

Like,

::

I feel like there's a good story there.

::

I also feel like this is a

::

perfect opportunity for him

::

to run into Jessica Jones or Luke Cage,

::

Daredevil.

::

Pick any of your plucky

::

street level heroes.

::

And I feel like those are

::

going to be pretty good interactions.

::

I mean, Kingpin's right there.

::

Like, it feels really... To me,

::

it feels very...

::

simple to me um but I i I'm

::

not surprised that sony is

::

like how can we make it

::

bigger after they've tried

::

to have madam webb be this

::

like whole entire spanning

::

thing and they're trying to

::

make craven the hunter be

::

it's like globe trotting

::

hunt right like all of the

::

morbius too like it's the

::

vampire and there's

::

vampires they're gonna take

::

over the city right like it's

::

They always are going bigger.

::

Those are probably always

::

the action notes that they're getting.

::

And then for Kevin Feige to be like, no,

::

actually,

::

I just wanted to save this diner,

::

actually.

::

That's it.

::

Give it to me bigger.

::

Actually, not so much.

::

I mean, yeah.

::

I don't know.

::

I don't know where we're going here.

::

I have an itch on my goddamn

::

back that's been distracting.

::

And I can't get it.

::

Just let it out.

::

You guys are talking and I'm like, yeah,

::

good point.

::

And I'm like, my fucking back.

::

Anyway.

::

Spider-Man.

::

All right.

::

Anyway,

::

there wasn't much more information there.

::

Tom Holland's in the creative process.

::

So I think that's going to be fascinating.

::

So what do y'all want to see

::

in Spider-Man 4?

::

Brian?

::

For me,

::

I want to see that college Peter Parker.

::

I want to see him coming

::

into his own a little bit.

::

I feel like No Way Home set

::

up this really cool blank slate.

::

I'm excited to see what

::

decisions Peter is making

::

without having to worry about his aunt,

::

without having to worry about

::

MJ,

::

if they do stick with nobody

::

remembering him,

::

like I feel like there's a

::

really good story to tell

::

that we haven't seen of like,

::

what does Peter do when

::

he's not having to worry

::

about protecting these people?

::

What what is it that he

::

wants and exploring what

::

that what that looks like

::

for his character?

::

I can think of a few paths of what that is,

::

whether it's his academics,

::

whether it's going full

::

time Spider-Man or whether

::

it's something like completely different.

::

I think that could be really special.

::

Yeah.

::

I think for me,

::

I want to see the

::

repercussions of the choice, right?

::

Like I, you know, I want to see, you know,

::

he made a very,

::

he made a very big decision to say,

::

what if nobody remembered

::

who Peter Parker was like,

::

and I want to see how is he

::

adapting to that in a world where,

::

Now he's in college and, you know,

::

he has this he still has an

::

identity of some way, shape or form.

::

Yeah.

::

So how does he now balance

::

of how do I get pieces of my life back?

::

But even though I've kind of

::

put all my chips in one bucket,

::

like I think there are

::

things there that are going

::

to be important to think about.

::

Yep.

::

and the scientists that he

::

could run into his teachers, right?

::

Like he's got a brilliant scientific mind.

::

Yeah.

::

You could pick one of the

::

scientific villains, spin the wheel.

::

And that's the professor

::

that he's running into in college.

::

And it needs to work.

::

I, well, I can tell you what I don't want.

::

I don't want it to be.

::

I really don't want it to be

::

a high stakes thing.

::

Like, I don't want it to be like, uh,

::

he's trying to stop the

::

entirety of the world from exploding.

::

Like keep the threat to New York city.

::

And that's fine.

::

So you're saying you don't

::

want venom taking over the city.

::

Got it.

::

Well, I would, I would take,

::

I would take like a,

::

I would take like a venom Island venom.

::

Like I'd take a venom, like, you know,

::

the symbiote storyline

::

where there's a lot of them.

::

I definitely think that's happening.

::

Oh, I agree.

::

Yeah.

::

I think so too.

::

I'm fine with that.

::

I just don't need it to be

::

the king in black.

::

I don't need the space

::

symbiote creator to come

::

down while we're dealing with Venom.

::

I don't need to do that.

::

I feel like this would be

::

the best opportunity to

::

introduce Miles because I

::

feel like Insomniac with

::

their Spider-Man 2 game showed that

::

you can have this narrative

::

of peter mentoring somebody

::

as spider-man and how

::

engaging that is and how

::

gut-wrenching emotional

::

that is when things don't

::

go right um like I that's

::

like the third path I was

::

kind of thinking of but I

::

don't I don't know if

::

they're going to be at the

::

miles stage yet but I feel

::

like at this point you have

::

to um but marcus what do you think

::

I feel like I'm going to

::

disagree with the mouse thing.

::

I think it's entirely too soon,

::

and it'll be... Really?

::

Four movies in,

::

and you feel like it's still too soon?

::

Okay.

::

I think it feels like,

::

although it's four movies in,

::

if we honestly think about it,

::

Spider-Man is just hitting

::

his solo adventure after No Way Home.

::

That's a good point.

::

To me, right now,

::

he's not in a mentoring phase.

::

Insomniac, Peter has gone through college,

::

started his own business,

::

done everything.

::

That's adult Peter.

::

This Peter still needs his

::

own mentorship that's not Iron Man.

::

So I think learning from Daredevil,

::

taking up Kingpin and going

::

up against Kingpin on your

::

own and having your own

::

enemy falling in love with

::

Mary Jane so you know exactly,

::

kind of going back to your point,

::

what is it that Peter Parker wants?

::

I don't think we can

::

introduce a Miles until

::

Peter knows who Peter is.

::

And I want to see Tom

::

Holland get some like gruff

::

on him as this college

::

mid-age Peter Parker.

::

Yeah.

::

just to have them get

::

knocked around real hard.

::

I think it's also worth mentioning that

::

I agree with Marcus,

::

but for a different reason, which is,

::

like,

::

we have the last Spider-Verse

::

animated movie that's still slated.

::

Oh, yeah.

::

And I kind of want to give

::

that enough space to

::

breathe and to finish right.

::

You know what I mean?

::

Like,

::

I want that to... Let that take its

::

space.

::

Like, let that take its thing.

::

Because if there's two

::

Mileses we have to figure out...

::

i just feel like one's gonna

::

eat the other and I would

::

rather say finish that one

::

out and then loop back

::

around yeah I think you

::

both make compelling points

::

I think for me it's coming

::

from like an audience

::

perspective of like this is

::

gonna be if this happens as

::

the fourth spider-man movie

::

like we are staring down

::

the barrel of like the

::

eighth spider-man movie

::

yes that's exactly when I

::

think you should do it 25

::

years and it's like we've

::

had Miles for like 10-ish I

::

think and I just I think

::

it's time because when I

::

think of Spider-Man I also

::

think of Miles so at some point like

::

It's just like,

::

you're clearly leaving it out,

::

but I could do one more movie,

::

but it is still going to be

::

a thought in my head.

::

I'll take two more.

::

I think he has to hit the

::

end of his own trilogy.

::

No, Brian, and here's primarily why.

::

Here's why.

::

primarily I'm more concerned

::

that they will rush miles

::

because rob miles isn't

::

just a black spider man

::

he's not just a latino

::

spider man he's an afro

::

latino character that you

::

have to get the right

::

person the right chemistry

::

they're about to introduce

::

the fantastic four and

::

x-men I think it's too much

::

I think once you get those

::

new teams established then

::

you can introduce this new

::

you got to have peter

::

parker with the human tour

::

with johnny storm fucking

::

around with each other

::

first you got to get

::

some other chemistry points

::

with Spider-Man and Tom Holland in it.

::

And then you can introduce that, like,

::

So, yeah,

::

I'm reading the writing on the wall.

::

So it's going to be

::

Spider-Man six or even even

::

hear the name.

::

Yes.

::

Yes.

::

Or I should say Tom Holland, Spider-Man.

::

Yeah.

::

So, no, I think those are all fair points.

::

And I agree with your logic

::

from like a movie from like

::

a movie rhythm.

::

Like they're going to want

::

if they're going to do this,

::

they're going to want to do another job.

::

And boy,

::

it sure sounds like Tom Holland's

::

in the driver's seat.

::

Sounds like he's the captain now.

::

He's Robert Downey Jr.

::

I think that's exactly what

::

they established.

::

He's RDJ.

::

Let's hope without the habit.

::

I don't think he wins.

::

Anyway, hope y'all like Spider-Man.

::

I'm sitting in it.

::

I made my choice.

::

Those were the two big news

::

pieces that y'all are so

::

uncomfortable and it makes me so happy.

::

Thank you, Brian.

::

I'm not saying that.

::

I'm not uncomfortable.

::

As long as you want to live and play,

::

I'm going to let you get your shit off.

::

Just remember, RDJ,

::

it's not Marcus J. Destin or Brian Roush.

::

Hey, Robert,

::

remember whose face is

::

plastered all over that FIBW stuff?

::

It ain't just me, baby.

::

What the fuck?

::

Why would you bring us into it?

::

I don't think he was using

::

during the MCU days,

::

but I'm also not a babysitter,

::

so I don't know.

::

I don't know.

::

What I do know is RDJ gave

::

us a very memorable character.

::

Is there anything that my

::

co-hosts would like to mention for news?

::

Why is there...

::

They want to bring up.

::

Because my itchy back threw

::

me out of all of it.

::

And I blame my back.

::

Who would win?

::

Human or itchy back?

::

Itchy back always wins.

::

Itchy back every time.

::

I don't give a fuck what's happening.

::

If your nose or back is itchy.

::

I've been in a meeting where

::

my nose itches.

::

There's no discreet way to do that.

::

You just look like a weirdo.

::

Rub it too much.

::

They think you're doing cocaine.

::

There you go.

::

Marcus, did you have anything?

::

Because I don't have anything.

::

No, I don't have anything.

::

Let's close it out.

::

We got a bonus episode.

::

Brian's like, hey, I got things to do.

::

An RDJ joke just sent him

::

through the roof.

::

It really did.

::

It really did.

::

He's like done with it.

::

He's like completely over it.

::

That's all you're going to

::

hear from Brian is go motherfuckers.

::

Yeah.

::

Yeah.

::

We're going to get a big,

::

we're going to get a text tomorrow.

::

That's like, Hey,

::

I think making fun of

::

someone with a drug problem

::

is a bridge too far.

::

You want to know something, Brian?

::

I don't censor fucking shit.

::

So like, I know you don't.

::

Look, man,

::

I've just seen the Letterman

::

interview with Robert Downey Jr.

::

He seems like an okay guy, all right?

::

That's all I'm saying.

::

He's a stand-up guy.

::

He feeds goats, okay?

::

Yes, he does.

::

Gentlemen,

::

what do you all have to plug for

::

this week's episode?

::

I'm here to tell you about

::

Color Me Confetti.

::

That's my wife's party

::

supply shop on Etsy.

::

Go to Etsy.com.

::

Search Color Me Confetti.

::

All one word.

::

We'll also have a link in

::

our episode description.

::

Go support a local business.

::

Are you throwing a party?

::

Don't order anything.

::

Just go to Color Me Confetti

::

and you can print out all

::

those designs for your party.

::

You don't even have to leave the house.

::

You know what's funny to me?

::

Does Maggie know that we

::

talk about cocaine or

::

Vaseline and then pivot

::

right into comedy?

::

She has listened.

::

Okay, good.

::

There's no objections?

::

We can try to build in some buffer.

::

We also did not ask her at all.

::

Yeah, anyway,

::

get that finger out your butt.

::

Color me confetti.

::

Anyway, welcome to Color Me Confetti.

::

No, I can't remember what she phrased.

::

She was like, no,

::

this is what I expect from you three.

::

I think that's what she said at one point.

::

That's fair.

::

Thanks.

::

That's right.

::

Marcus, the real big Texas.

::

What do you got to plug this week?

::

Make sure you follow the mantra.

::

Never offended.

::

Always humble.

::

Go ahead.

::

Buy yourself some merch.

::

Go ahead.

::

Buy yourself some gear.

::

Hit the link in my bio and

::

all my socials at Marcus J. Destin.

::

Soul Tide's got new music on the way.

::

S-O-U-L-T-Y-E.

::

Link is coming out, I think, Wednesday.

::

Actually,

::

new Soul Tide music is coming out

::

Wednesday.

::

And then...

::

I got some new music on the way,

::

working on an album.

::

But whatever you do, follow the mantra,

::

never offend it, always humble.

::

The lead track is going to

::

be all about Big Texas.

::

Oh, yeah.

::

The whole album is named Lead Texas.

::

That's right.

::

Big Texas.

::

This week, I have to plug... Mother...

::

Brian,

::

my mom has this infatuation with you,

::

and I don't know what it is.

::

I want to read to you,

::

but put Mason's thing back on.

::

I'm going to tell you how it sounds.

::

I was just going to

::

highlight a bunch of them

::

as we were closing out.

::

She calls me, and she says, King Marcus,

::

tell Brian, say, hey, Brian.

::

That's exactly what she says.

::

Well, hello.

::

that's what I want you to

::

know maggie I love it

::

please just I took her note

::

every time so she had to

::

use mason to get through it

::

I love it thank you mason

::

yeah I appreciate you uh

::

this week I want to plug

::

this podcast look if you

::

enjoyed our conversation

::

about spider-man and

::

wolverine and deadpool and

::

sort of the potpourri

::

episode we had uh sign up

::

for one of our tiers over

::

at patreon.com slash films

::

of black and white

::

The best way, though,

::

to share us is by spreading

::

the word to a friend or a family member.

::

Tell us about the pod.

::

Spread the word that way.

::

We do have a fantastic bonus

::

episode right after this.

::

We're going to talk about the life aquatic,

::

which is going to be great.

::

But that's what we got.

::

Gentlemen,

::

we have a three-step process to success.

::

What is that first step, Brian?

::

Hey, folks,

::

I'm here to tell you to read a book.

::

And I'm also here to tell you,

::

you don't have an excuse

::

anymore because I figured

::

out how to check books out

::

through my phone.

::

And I'm saying it's so easy.

::

It's like you just you download Hoopla,

::

download the Hoopla app.

::

as it sounds and you put in

::

your library card if you're

::

like brian I don't have a

::

library card go go get one

::

there's free books for you

::

they free in the library

::

you they don't charge you

::

anything so you go do that

::

you get that you get your

::

library card number you put

::

it into hoopla the app the

::

phone that you have that

::

you watch the tick tock

::

videos on right and then

::

you can check out

::

anything you you can you can

::

go if we talked a lot about

::

comics if you're like wow I

::

don't even know who

::

cassandra nova is I

::

guarantee you there's a

::

library out there that will

::

lend you that comic on your

::

phone and then you can just

::

read those comics on your

::

phone are you mindlessly

::

scrolling tiktok or reddit

::

or I don't know maybe

::

you're a boomer and you're

::

on facebook right like

::

don't do that just look at

::

comics on your phone yeah

::

I took a shot at Facebook.

::

I feel attacked.

::

That's all I look at.

::

I thought we all

::

collectively abandoned it

::

for the most part.

::

I might have got that wrong.

::

I abandoned Twitter and TikTok.

::

But you kept Facebook.

::

You kept the boomer.

::

Anyway, download Hoopla.

::

Read books.

::

You just need a library card.

::

Read a book.

::

Yeah,

::

and my friends in my chat about

::

freedom are really starting

::

to make some convincing points.

::

Oh, wow.

::

It was a joke.

::

It was a joke.

::

It was a joke.

::

He's just three steps away

::

from joining a militia.

::

Guys,

::

I'm three steps away from being what

::

they call a title 63.

::

Oh, no.

::

Don't know what that means.

::

Oh, my God.

::

No, no, no, no.

::

Oh, my God.

::

I heard there's like a dragon involved.

::

I don't know.

::

There is.

::

I'm excited to slay it.

::

Marcus, what is that second step?

::

Just drink some water.

::

A lot of y'all,

::

I feel like you can just

::

drink some water.

::

Shut the fuck up.

::

Just drink water so you

::

can't say nothing else.

::

Just drink it so your mouth is just full.

::

Just drink some water.

::

Not you.

::

Hey, wash your ass, y'all.

::

It's really important.

::

Get the stink out.

::

Look, summertime is here.

::

You heard Will Smith and DJ

::

Jazzy Jeff say it at the

::

start of this pod.

::

Summertime is a coming,

::

and you want to make sure

::

you've got a clean ass as

::

you come into this season.

::

So get up in it, scrub it.

::

If you've got to take a two-shower day,

::

take a two-shower day.

::

There's no shame in it.

::

If you go work out in the morning, shower,

::

and then you mow the lawn later that day,

::

It's okay to shower again.

::

No one's going to judge you.

::

Leave that stank on there.

::

Your partner loves it.

::

No, they do not.

::

Hard pass.

::

Step four, according to Roman,

::

is take every chance you

::

get to earn money for charity.

::

We missed one.

::

We missed one.

::

Our chat folks and Roman

::

will not let us forget it.

::

That's a very good point.

::

Uh,

::

that does it for this week's episode of

::

films of black and white.

::

We'll be back next week with

::

another outstanding episode,

::

but in the meantime, in the between time,

::

stay safe, stay healthy.

::

We love y'all.

::

We appreciate y'all.

::

And we'll catch y'all next week.

::

Yeah.

::

the aspca that's what we

::

chose we chose that that's

::

the charity we chose roman

::

just didn't reveal it until

::

our outro surprise

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