Episode 38
Laundry Detergent and Harry Potter aka "Halal-crux"
Join hosts Marcus, Bryan, and Doug for a game filled episode of Films in Black and White. They play a patty family inspired ranking game centered around a very unexpected topic. Then the trio dives into a lively discussion about the shifting tones and themes in the Harry Potter series, particularly focusing on "Order of the Phoenix." With humor and insight, the trio debates the effectiveness of adaptations and the importance of storytelling in both books and films. Finally, we get into the Halloween spirit by exploring our favorite horror franchises and icons.
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Transcript
What is Doug laughing at?
Speaker B:You said halal crocs.
Speaker A:It's halal meat with a hallcrock.
Speaker C:Oh, no, I heard Horcrux.
Speaker C:I heard the hollock.
Speaker A:No, Doug is right.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker A:Ready?
Speaker C:The armada Kenobi.
Speaker C:I'm not a monster.
Speaker B:Welcome to Philips and black and white, everybody.
Speaker A:Shmeneen.
Speaker B:How are you all feeling?
Speaker B:Happy fall, y'all.
Speaker B:We made it.
Speaker B:We're finally getting some cooler weather, which is exciting on multiple fronts.
Speaker B:But it's a great Monday to be here.
Speaker A:It was such a quick shift of weather, too.
Speaker B:It was like a snap of the finger, is what it was.
Speaker A:Very, very quick.
Speaker B:But we are, we are.
Speaker B:I mean, Brian is in the middle of doing some things, so maybe he's here, maybe he's not.
Speaker B:The important thing is we are here.
Speaker B:We've got some people who are watching us who are here.
Speaker B:So very excited.
Speaker B:Very, very excited.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker B:Like, not in your house.
Speaker B:Like, on the live stream.
Speaker B:Like, there's no.
Speaker B:Yeah, there's nobody there.
Speaker B:I don't see anybody behind the curtain or camera or anything.
Speaker A:Grabbed a little pew pew.
Speaker B:Could you imagine the.
Speaker B:The hilarity of, like I said, like, hey, thanks to those who are watching, and you just started firing, like, yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Gotta keep it safe.
Speaker A:Better safe than sorry.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But, yeah.
Speaker B:So we're.
Speaker B:This is gonna be kind of like a potpourri news episode.
Speaker B:We got a little.
Speaker B:This, little of that that we're gonna get into.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's going to be a little gamesy.
Speaker B:Might have to pivot our games a little bit, but that's okay.
Speaker B:We'll change some things up.
Speaker B:But, Marcus, in order to do this, well, in order to do it right, make sure everybody's welcome to this space.
Speaker B:So, anime Poppy, how you feeling, sir?
Speaker A:I'm feeling good.
Speaker A:Feeling animated.
Speaker A:The couple days is over.
Speaker B:They go rear view, baby.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, happy Native Americans day.
Speaker A:Happy indigenous people's day today.
Speaker A:You know, I mean, on Monday, breaking the movie magic.
Speaker A:But that's way more important.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's all I want to say.
Speaker A:I'm here.
Speaker B:How was the.
Speaker B:How was the remainder of your weekend, sir?
Speaker B:Like, you.
Speaker B:You had a.
Speaker B:You had a crazy week.
Speaker B:Recap the week for the people.
Speaker B:Like, how on the whole, how did it go?
Speaker A:On the whole.
Speaker A:It was good.
Speaker A:It was a great week.
Speaker A:We had events every single day that week.
Speaker A:Just some capacity, whether it was a large scale, a small scale put on by the student committee, and I advised the student committee.
Speaker A:It was just.
Speaker A:They did a really good job.
Speaker A:I'm just really proud of them.
Speaker A:They show up, they show out.
Speaker A:Not that you're surprised, but when you see them do it and they put it together, put the pieces together, this was probably every day this week.
Speaker A:I was very proud of them.
Speaker A:And to be honest, I think that the one event that feels like an automatic, like, win is the street dance.
Speaker A:Like, that was probably last on my list of, like, like, successful events only because the other ones went really, really well, you know?
Speaker B:Oh, sure, yeah.
Speaker B:Like, victim of circumstance in terms of the rankings, right?
Speaker B:Like, it was all great.
Speaker B:And so, yeah, that one is your.
Speaker A:Certified win for the week.
Speaker A:If everything else went wrong, your street dance would be like, yeah, for sure, certified win.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:And then Saturday just felt like a goddamn movie beginning to end.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, you felt it throughout.
Speaker A:Vermilion.
Speaker A: You start, like, up at: Speaker A: we were up at: Speaker A:to help, you know, get the parade started.
Speaker A:And then you go from there.
Speaker A:For me, personally, go in and start hosting the football game and then doing that.
Speaker A:And then we went out and had some drinks afterwards, you know, at the w.
Speaker A:Shout out to the w.
Speaker A:Shout out to Haley Warren and Dante Warren, the Warrens, for opening that up in town.
Speaker A:So that was it.
Speaker A:That was it.
Speaker A:You mean good?
Speaker B:Good.
Speaker B:Yeah, it.
Speaker B:It had that, like, quintessential Midwest homecoming vibe.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Like, it was, um.
Speaker B:I didn't see, like.
Speaker B:I mean, granted, we were out and about on Saturday, um, but I didn't see, like, too much, like, craziness around, like, obviously, like, people were out and they were celebrating wind and celebrating homecoming, but just felt like things were just firing on all the right cylinders, which is a great way to do it.
Speaker B:So, uh, I also happy indigenous people's day.
Speaker B:My aka this week is land back for that very reason.
Speaker A:Love that.
Speaker B:Let's.
Speaker B:Let's.
Speaker B:Let's.
Speaker B:Let's.
Speaker B:Let's write some wrongs here, people.
Speaker B:Like, it's.
Speaker B:Let's.
Speaker B:Let's move past what our history book has told us and maybe start to critically think and just look at what we need to look at.
Speaker B:So that's what we got.
Speaker A:I love a love.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm all about it.
Speaker B:I'm all about it.
Speaker A:All about that.
Speaker A:How was your.
Speaker A:How was your week, dude?
Speaker B:Good.
Speaker B:I mean, we are.
Speaker B:Things were good.
Speaker B:So, like, we went to.
Speaker B:Obviously, the university had this today off, and then the kids had Friday off because we had parent teacher conferences, so those went well.
Speaker B:Got to check in with Harrison and Harper's teachers.
Speaker B:So they are doing the right where they need to be, which is always, always great.
Speaker B:And so where things are at there.
Speaker B:And so they're doing well.
Speaker B:We're happy that they're doing well.
Speaker B:Um, and then on top of that, uh, Brian, uh, is just getting himself set up.
Speaker B:I'll keep telling you about my week.
Speaker B:And then we'll.
Speaker B:We'll introduce him here, but glad that he's here.
Speaker B:Um, so.
Speaker B:And then on Saturday, went to the parade.
Speaker B:Shout out to.
Speaker B:To Marcus and to the Dakota days committee and just the university for a great parade.
Speaker B:They did an awesome job.
Speaker A:131 participants.
Speaker C:Oh, it's a lot you.
Speaker B:And it seemed like it was flowing well, and they just went what they needed to do.
Speaker B:And then the other thing that I was going to say is, after that, we went to a pumpkin patch like we were in fall mode.
Speaker A:Oh, damn.
Speaker A:Right after the parade.
Speaker B:After the parade, we went home, cleaned up a little bit.
Speaker B:Then we went to a pumpkin patch.
Speaker A:Why didn't you go to the game?
Speaker B:Here's the thing.
Speaker B:We knew we had to go to Sioux Falls on Sunday.
Speaker B:We only have so much goodwill with the kids of being like, hey, I need you to sit here for an extended period of time.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Brittany and I both, like, you know, we could go to the game.
Speaker B:And then we sort of were like, yeah, but we gotta ask him to sit in the car for, like, an hour tomorrow.
Speaker B:And then, like, be patient as we're in and out of stores.
Speaker B:So let's not cash that check.
Speaker B:Let's hold off on cashing that.
Speaker B:And we still.
Speaker B:So we went to the pumpkin patch, but then we got back and we watched the second half of the game on tv, which was good because we were all tired, so we could kind of just, like, zone out.
Speaker B:So it was awesome.
Speaker B:So it was a great Saturday.
Speaker B:It was a great weekend.
Speaker B:Um, and so, yeah, it's just absolutely thrilling.
Speaker B:Uh, we got to finish Harry Potter to Harry Potter part seven.
Speaker B:So I do have a short presentation.
Speaker B:Uh, that's not a presentation, but I do have a short position I would like to take.
Speaker B:And in that vein, Brian Roush, aka order the Phoenix himself.
Speaker B:Hi, sir.
Speaker A:Here to fight for it.
Speaker C:Um, I'm.
Speaker C:We'd be here with my guys.
Speaker C:Yeah, I'm ready to.
Speaker C:I'm ready to have some hot about Harry Potter.
Speaker C:I actually had one outside of sourced to me from Maggie, so I have one to share.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Double.
Speaker A:Double trouble beach.
Speaker C:There's two.
Speaker C:There's two of them coming.
Speaker C:No, I had the day off, but it was super busy.
Speaker C:Just doing.
Speaker C:I just didn't done it, like, family and house stuff.
Speaker C:I went for a run, too, so I was just.
Speaker C:I was on the move.
Speaker C:I was on the move a lot.
Speaker C:So happy to be here with my guys and start talking some movies.
Speaker B:Moving, moving and shaking around the house.
Speaker B:I want to shout out, Maggie, for two reasons.
Speaker C:Hmm.
Speaker B:One, we were given, like, this is some inside baseball, but, like, Marcus and Marcus and I were given a preview of a Halloween costume that looks so fire.
Speaker B:We just.
Speaker C:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker B:She did this scarlet spider costume she.
Speaker A:Put together, and they better come in a five x.
Speaker B:Four x.
Speaker B:I need a large.
Speaker B:Marcus needs a five.
Speaker B:Yeah, he needs a bigger tall.
Speaker A:I want a five x so when I wash it, I can wear it again.
Speaker A:I just want to get there.
Speaker B:That makes sense.
Speaker B:That tracks.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Um, but, yeah, I'm just walking around wearing a.
Speaker A:Never mind.
Speaker B:No, you're fine.
Speaker B:Hey, I'm not here to.
Speaker B:Hey, we're not here to judge any joke.
Speaker A:Just keep going.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Um, but, yeah, so that's.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:That's what we have.
Speaker B:We are.
Speaker B:So Roman's gonna take one, too.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A:The coffee.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's how you can earn your decades of coffee, Brian.
Speaker C:Decades at this point.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's compounding.
Speaker B:And then also, like, you were doing some Halloween decoration, Brian, there.
Speaker C:There was an attempt.
Speaker C:Okay, so for some people, you may, on your socials, you might be scrolling videos, you might see this one craft if you're in this filter bubble of, like, people basically buying these candles that are hung by, like, fish wire, essentially, from the ceiling.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then they'll light up like Harry Potter candles.
Speaker C:I'm on topic today.
Speaker B:They are very on brand today.
Speaker C:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker C:And essentially, this would make it look like you would turn them on with magic.
Speaker C:There's a.
Speaker C:There's a remote.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:You could open up a coffee shop with the interest accrued.
Speaker C:I'm just gonna keep, I'm gonna just keep.
Speaker C:Just keep pushing that out as long as possible.
Speaker C:I'm gonna keep the bit going as long as possible.
Speaker C:But, uh, but, yeah, so the idea was that we would get basically this giant cardstock, and then we would get this material that looks like clouds, and we stick it on there and then put the whole thing on the ceiling so it looked like it was like thundering and lightning from the ceiling.
Speaker C:And there was, you know, the Harry Potter candles.
Speaker C:Um, and we ran into some difficulties with adhesive and gravity and gravity.
Speaker C:Just straight up gravity.
Speaker C:Um, and so I like being transparent about it because I feel like a lot of times when you see stuff like that on social media, you're like, oh, my gosh.
Speaker C:Like, they did that.
Speaker C:It looks so easy.
Speaker C:I can never do that.
Speaker C:And it's like, no, we're actively trying it, and it's very difficult.
Speaker C:So, like, we thought we could get this done in a day.
Speaker C:We could not.
Speaker C:So we're gonna.
Speaker C:We're gonna try some other stuff.
Speaker C:We're gonna figure it out.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker C:But, yeah, there's led lights in there and stuff like that and whole bunch of other stuff.
Speaker C:So we gave it a good college try.
Speaker B:Well, you know what, Brian?
Speaker B:I'm glad that you're very open and honest about your struggles, because to be honest, that's been a dream of mine.
Speaker B:To put right above here, like, a cloud setup.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I am running into.
Speaker B:So now that we've painted and we're putting things back, started to, like, run into, like, a.
Speaker B:Because this is both an office as well as a podcast studio, but it's primarily a set, like a second bedroom.
Speaker C:Yeah, of course.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:I am trying to, like, hey, I have some comic books I want to put in frames and hangs up.
Speaker B:She's like, okay, how many?
Speaker B:And I'm like, what do you mean, how many?
Speaker B:That's my office.
Speaker B:Like, I'm gonna put up what I need to put up.
Speaker B:She goes, yeah, but it is predominantly an extra bedroom, not a space for a man child.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I have no say so in that house because I don't have anything to do with that house.
Speaker A:And so I don't mean to cause division.
Speaker B:Opinion and appreciated.
Speaker A:However, I feel like if it is a second guest bedroom, they are a guest in your house.
Speaker B:That's how I feel about it.
Speaker A:So they should.
Speaker A:It would be like if I came to visit Brian and the only place for me to sleep was the place that he recorded his podcast with the wallpaper on both sides.
Speaker A:Guess what?
Speaker A:I'm sleeping right underneath that wallpaper, because I am a guest in that house.
Speaker A:That's how I would if anybody came to stay with me.
Speaker A:The projector room is my little media room.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker A:Yeah, you don't have to.
Speaker A:You just gotta eat that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I have a lot of questions.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:Yeah, I was gonna play this song for Roman.
Speaker B:This is so great.
Speaker C:That's excellent.
Speaker C:That's excellent, Marcus.
Speaker B:I've never heard that song for us.
Speaker B:Nikki, what are you getting at?
Speaker C:I'm firing up Google Docs right now.
Speaker A:I'm not really sure.
Speaker A:I haven't really want to stay until.
Speaker B:You want me to answer honestly or is this.
Speaker A:I mean, we'll find out.
Speaker A:She's on twitch, so that could be, like, a twitch specific question.
Speaker B:It could be a very twitch specific thing.
Speaker A:So you start first in case they scam us.
Speaker B:In the chat.
Speaker B:Why she got to be getting it something.
Speaker C:I mean.
Speaker A:Okay, now there's, okay, now there's two people from twitch.
Speaker B:So here's, here's my go.
Speaker A:Women supporting women from what it seems.
Speaker C:All right, let's get going.
Speaker B:The name brand, like, we use a, an eco friendly laundry detergent that doesn't come in one of those big jugs.
Speaker B:I couldn't tell you what it was called, but that's just where we're at.
Speaker B:Do we honestly have a list for this now?
Speaker A:Okay, honestly, can you give you a top three?
Speaker A:And then in your top for one, give me your favorite brand of detergent.
Speaker A:All right, we said, we said this is gonna be a gamesy episode.
Speaker A:Everybody hang with us.
Speaker A:We're gonna be playing some games today.
Speaker A:Give me your favorite, um.
Speaker A:Give me your favorite detergent.
Speaker A:Then for the second answer, you have to give me pod or scoop or liquid.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:So pod, powder, or liquid.
Speaker A:Okay, and then the last one.
Speaker A:Favorite, um.
Speaker A:What's the dryer?
Speaker A:Um, dryer sheets.
Speaker A:Dryer sheet.
Speaker A:What's your favorite scent?
Speaker A:Give me a favorite scent in our brain.
Speaker C:Well, okay, we don't, we don't use, we don't use dryer sheets.
Speaker A:Oh, that's fine.
Speaker A:That's a good answer.
Speaker A:That's a fun answer, too.
Speaker C:I'm just making sure.
Speaker C:I'm just making sure we don't, I mean, we use, so, I mean, if we're getting into this, like, we use these, uh, these balls that catch static in the dryer.
Speaker B:Yeah, the lint balls.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, we just use those.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, yeah, we don't use the dryer sheet either.
Speaker B:But, I mean, this eco friendly is nice.
Speaker B:We have, like, a sandalwood scented one.
Speaker B:I don't remember what.
Speaker A:Start with question number one.
Speaker A:Go in order.
Speaker B:You asked me to rank them, didn't you?
Speaker A:No, no, no.
Speaker A:I said number one, you give me your favorite brand for number two, you give me pod powder or liquid, and three is your favorite dry sheet smell.
Speaker B:Look, my favorite is whatever I'm using now.
Speaker B:I don't know what it's called, but it's what I'm using now.
Speaker B:We bought it in bulk.
Speaker B:I could tell you what the picture looks like on the little, like, Carton, but I don't know what the fuck it's called.
Speaker B:I was the one who was the advocate for it, too.
Speaker B:I told Brittany, I was like, I want to switch detergents.
Speaker B:I'm tired of that giant jug sitting in there.
Speaker A:Is it powder?
Speaker A:Is it liquid?
Speaker A:What is it?
Speaker B:It's a liquid.
Speaker B:It's a liquid and natural musk.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker B:It's a.
Speaker B:It's a sandalwood scented.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Type of situation.
Speaker A:Fancy for.
Speaker A:Do you use that for everybody, or is that just you?
Speaker B:Yes, we use that for.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Oh, nice.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:And it's concentrated, so, like, you just use, like, a little bit, like an ounce, and it goes.
Speaker B:It does, like, two loads, so it's awesome.
Speaker C:Oh, that's nice.
Speaker A:What do you prefer, pod powder or liquid?
Speaker B:Me.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:Pod was great, but sometimes I found, like, I.
Speaker B:You know, because sometimes you throw all your laundry in there at the end.
Speaker B:And what are we doing right now?
Speaker B:Like, what are we, like, hey.
Speaker A:The audience actually, I appreciate this is.
Speaker B:Happening.
Speaker A:This is what the young people do.
Speaker A:This is what we.
Speaker C:This is what the younger generation does.
Speaker A:They engage with the people.
Speaker B:Did you all, like, collaborate to prank me?
Speaker B:It's w's in the chat.
Speaker C:I came here late.
Speaker C:You know, we do.
Speaker C:You know, do you know how many lists we do about, like, comics and stuff?
Speaker C:I love this.
Speaker C:I love this for us.
Speaker C:I love that we're bringing our talents to detergent, because the other thing about this that's also making me laugh is we're very opinionated.
Speaker C:Very opinionated about this that I could have never imagined.
Speaker A:We got to get more discussion out of this than the Joker review.
Speaker A:I tell you that.
Speaker B:I mean, it's getting close.
Speaker C:It's getting very close.
Speaker B:While you all answer, I'll go in the other room and figure out what the fuck it's called.
Speaker B:Now.
Speaker B:Now it's gonna bother me.
Speaker C:Can't wait for Brittany to be like, aren't you doing pod?
Speaker B:Yes, I am doing podcasts, but there is.
Speaker A:There's a very important question.
Speaker B:People are demanding what I use.
Speaker A:What do you think your superhero's favorite detergent is?
Speaker A:Like, do we need to make it into that?
Speaker A:Like, I don't.
Speaker A:Come on.
Speaker A:Like, this is.
Speaker B:All right, Marcus, you go.
Speaker A:Okay, fine.
Speaker A:That's fine.
Speaker A:I feel like I switch.
Speaker A:I switch often.
Speaker A:Right now, I'm looking at a giant liquid thing of pure ex.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A:Like the pure express brand.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A:Tide pods would be like, me as a man, as a bachelor, the easiest for me to just toss some shit in a washing machine is probably my go to.
Speaker C:I get it.
Speaker A:I get it.
Speaker A:Super easy.
Speaker A:I am a fan.
Speaker A:And I don't have, like, when it comes to sensitive skiing, like, for detergent, I don't have that.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:When I was with, living with my siblings and whole house limit, some people were, like, had sensitive skin, so you had to use the unscented.
Speaker A:I prefer to have a scent on my shit.
Speaker A:You know?
Speaker A:I prefer to have a scent when I pull it out, and then.
Speaker A:So when it goes to dry sheets, anything that's not, like a lavender or a fresh scent, like, I will go something, like, a little different just because when they pull it out, I like my sheets and my clothes to smell like some.
Speaker C:Mm hmm.
Speaker A:That's me.
Speaker A:About me.
Speaker A:I'm very particular about smells.
Speaker A:If I stink even a little bit, like, I can't.
Speaker A:I can't.
Speaker C:What's that preferred smell?
Speaker A:Um, anything, probably, when it comes to the house, anything woodsy, musky, like that kind of thing.
Speaker A:I can tell.
Speaker A:But I can do a, like, strawberry ish something.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Something very light, because when I put my cologne on, it'll probably be the opposite of that.
Speaker C:Oh, okay.
Speaker C:I'm picking up.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:For those who are so concerned, this brand is called clean cult, and it comes in this container, and it is recyclable.
Speaker B:So I can recycle this, and it does.
Speaker B:Wild lavender is the scent.
Speaker A:I like it.
Speaker A:Put it in the camera so we can get you.
Speaker A:So we can get you a deal.
Speaker B:Yeah, come on.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:It looks like you're hugging it.
Speaker A:You're cuddling it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Brian, you last one, man.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So Maggie and I actually, similar situation to Doug.
Speaker C:We wanted to switch to something more natural, just get away from the AWl and the tie to just in it.
Speaker C:Also, we have very sensitive skin in this house, so, like, just doing something that wasn't as aggressive.
Speaker C:So we have a brand called drops, and it's all.
Speaker B:Of course we looked at drops.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So all of their stuff comes in.
Speaker C:Also recyclable packaging, which is important to us.
Speaker C:And so it is.
Speaker C:It's a no cent situation in a pod.
Speaker C:I get really.
Speaker C:I just sense.
Speaker C:I just, I don't know, on my clothes, it's not always, like, I don't know.
Speaker C:It's really hit and miss.
Speaker C:If I have to choose a scent, it's like I just go straight detergent smell.
Speaker C:Like, I don't do.
Speaker C:Like, I'm glad.
Speaker C:I'm glad the strawberry works for you, you know?
Speaker C:So, no, we're not going for a dank weed situation that I see in the comments.
Speaker A:Not, I do love.
Speaker A:I mean, I do love when my favorite.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:It is a.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:It is a good smell.
Speaker A:I do.
Speaker A:I do appreciate a nice sweater smell with, like, cologne and weed.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, it's about the combination.
Speaker A:When you, like, flop it out, you'd be like, man, is this YSl?
Speaker A:And dank.
Speaker B:Oh, shit.
Speaker C:You hit.
Speaker C:You hit bingo, too.
Speaker C:If it smells a little bit like bonfire, it's like, oh, smokey smell like Johnny.
Speaker B:Based on what I'm smelling, Jack Sparrow, they just bottle that shit.
Speaker A:Put a little rum behind my ears, too.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker B:Setting that shit off.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I don't know, vanilla.
Speaker C:If I really had to choose something.
Speaker C:I feel like we're getting into candle territory, and that's maybe we are.
Speaker C:That's maybe for another podcast episode.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:You should put that pre roll on a grill with some barbecue chips.
Speaker C:Welcome to smells and black and white.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker C:We're moving on.
Speaker A:Never did nothing for you.
Speaker C:I appreciate that my co hosts went along with this because we.
Speaker C:I just immediately started sharing my screen and got the Google Docs out.
Speaker A:I mean, he was ready.
Speaker A:That's the chemistry of this podcast.
Speaker A:You thought we couldn't do it.
Speaker C:I was.
Speaker B:I was suspicious at first.
Speaker A:I still think somehow I gave away my Social Security by actually what detergent I use on a regular basis.
Speaker A:It's like a Facebook algorithm.
Speaker A:Like a weird Facebook question.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:All right, well, I mean, like, we've got.
Speaker B:We've got.
Speaker B:I mean, I have two other games.
Speaker B:One we play all the time.
Speaker A:Let's play it.
Speaker B:Let's do it.
Speaker A:Come on.
Speaker A:This is a game episode.
Speaker B:Let's just go.
Speaker B:Let's pivot into catch that quotable.
Speaker B:Shall we?
Speaker C:Let's do it.
Speaker C:Let's catch it.
Speaker A:As soon as I find there's a.
Speaker C:Transition in there.
Speaker B:Of Marcus J.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Are they ganging up on us?
Speaker A:Wait, and Nikki know each other?
Speaker C:I'm gonna assume.
Speaker C:I'm gonna infer in the.
Speaker B:I'm convinced that they're in the same house.
Speaker A:They might be in the same, like, next to each other.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And their names are really.
Speaker B:I didn't know, Jimmy.
Speaker C:No, kind of the moment.
Speaker C:I mean, and then Roman and Mason, if they get both in here, it's gonna be.
Speaker C:It's just gonna be the aDHd pod.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:We're gonna be.
Speaker B:We're going to be in a lot of trouble.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, let me.
Speaker B:Let me pull this up.
Speaker A:And I like Brian coming in with the order of the Phoenix, like, lower third, like, aka, because.
Speaker B:Oh, he's ready.
Speaker B:He and I are ready to have a.
Speaker A:But that's good, because my ooh woo foo foo bracket is going to be best Harry Potter character because I want to stick on brand here a little bit.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A:All right, so.
Speaker B:All right, gentlemen, are you ready for this week's quote?
Speaker A:Hit me.
Speaker A:Hit me.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:This is a.
Speaker B:This is a conversation between two people.
Speaker C:I wish we're with you.
Speaker B:Okay, here we go.
Speaker B:Person one, it's ruined.
Speaker B:It's totally ruined.
Speaker B:Person two.
Speaker B:It wasn't me, mom.
Speaker B:It was a little creature.
Speaker B:I saw it.
Speaker B:Person one, house is totally destroyed.
Speaker B:Person two, what do you want me to say?
Speaker B:Person one.
Speaker B:I don't want you to say anything.
Speaker A:I know what this is.
Speaker C:Do you?
Speaker A:I don't know the time.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:I know that I know this.
Speaker A:I don't know it immediately.
Speaker A:Just keep going with the discussion.
Speaker A:Can you read it again?
Speaker B:I will absolutely read it again.
Speaker C:Play it again.
Speaker B:This.
Speaker B:Okay, so.
Speaker B:Person one, it's ruined.
Speaker B:It's totally ruined.
Speaker B:Person two.
Speaker B:It wasn't me, mom.
Speaker B:It was a little creature.
Speaker B:I saw it.
Speaker B:Person one, the house is totally destroyed.
Speaker B:Person two, what do you want me to say?
Speaker B:Person one.
Speaker B:I don't want you to say anything.
Speaker C:Man.
Speaker C:Is this, like.
Speaker C:Is this gremlins or leprechaun?
Speaker B:It feels like it could be.
Speaker B:It feels like.
Speaker B:It feels like it could be one of those things.
Speaker B:I don't know what this is, but it feels like it's definitely one of those, like, there's something in the house.
Speaker B:It's a kids movie, I feel like.
Speaker B:For sure.
Speaker C:Definitely a kid movie.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Gremlins feels a little too old for what this quote is.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker C:It.
Speaker A:Can you read it?
Speaker A:Can you read it again?
Speaker B:I absolutely can.
Speaker B:Person one, it's ruined.
Speaker B:It's totally ruined.
Speaker B:Person two.
Speaker B:It wasn't me, mom.
Speaker B:It was a little creature.
Speaker B:I saw it.
Speaker B:Person one, the house is totally destroyed.
Speaker B:Person two, what do you want me to say?
Speaker B:Person one.
Speaker B:I don't want you to say anything.
Speaker A:I cannot.
Speaker A:I know it's gonna piss me off.
Speaker A:I was thinking cat and a hat.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker A:I cannot.
Speaker A:I feel like I know the kid.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:Is it a british movie?
Speaker A:Like, I cannot.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:Like, I.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:I don't know what this is.
Speaker A:I just need to figure out who was in this movie.
Speaker C:Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker A:Let's just keep going.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I'm good, Brian.
Speaker B:I think you know I'm good.
Speaker B:Like, I know what this.
Speaker A:I know what this is.
Speaker A:Okay, then we can skip it.
Speaker A:Keep going.
Speaker B:Do you want to give it a go?
Speaker B:I'm gonna go, everybody.
Speaker B:Guess I'm gonna go with Brian.
Speaker B:I like gremlins.
Speaker B:I'm gonna stick with Gremlin.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:I feel like that's a great, like.
Speaker B:Guess.
Speaker B:So I'm gonna go with gremlins.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I guess I'm gonna go leprechaun.
Speaker C:Take it away, Marcus.
Speaker A:Yep, yep, yep, yep.
Speaker A:Y'all gonna have to help me out here, okay, because I'm gonna.
Speaker A:I know what this is from.
Speaker A:It is et ish, but it's not et.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Brown.
Speaker A:Paul Rudd.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's something.
Speaker A:Me like, it's Mac and me.
Speaker B:Is this Mac at me?
Speaker A:I think it's Mac and me.
Speaker A:Paul.
Speaker A:He gave.
Speaker A:Paul Rudd was the person I've been looking for.
Speaker A:I'm like, who the fuck was that little ass kid?
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:1988 smack and me.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Look at you all.
Speaker B:We did it.
Speaker A:My Google search is little brown.
Speaker C:Isn't it a promotional movie for McDonald's?
Speaker B:I mean, I don't think so, right?
Speaker C:No, I don't think so.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A:Oh, there's a big Donald's dance party in the movie.
Speaker B:Is there?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Don't know about.
Speaker A:I mean, Ronald McDonald is in it.
Speaker A:He's in the city, so.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:So, yes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So it is.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Okay, cool, cool, cool.
Speaker C:So it is in McDonald's.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And they.
Speaker C:They hide from NASA agents.
Speaker C:And apparently they entertain the guests at McDonald's.
Speaker C:This is an entire scene in the movie.
Speaker A:My bounce arounds was not my Google searches.
Speaker A:Lil Brown monster, which could go either way.
Speaker A:And then I was thinking Alf.
Speaker A:And then I was thinking et because I couldn't nail the little brown.
Speaker A:Little brown.
Speaker B:Yeah, we also.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Okay, we're up to dollar 20.
Speaker B:Thank you, Roman, for your continued support and this activity.
Speaker B:We do need to pick a charity.
Speaker B:I do.
Speaker B:So we will have that to Roman.
Speaker B:We will have.
Speaker B:That's by next week.
Speaker B:That is our.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's on me.
Speaker B:We have no, it's on all of us.
Speaker B:But, yes, we have not.
Speaker B:We have not thought about that.
Speaker B:So, cool.
Speaker B:Gentlemen, do we want to stick with games or do we want me to go into my, like, long diatribe about Harry Potter?
Speaker C:I mean, we're.
Speaker C:I mean, I feel like.
Speaker C:I feel like we're half hour.
Speaker C:And I think.
Speaker C:I think it's.
Speaker C:We can rip the Harry Potter like Ripcord.
Speaker B:Okay, so here's.
Speaker B:Here's where I'm at.
Speaker B:So Harrison and I started about a year ago, reading the book and then watching the movie right after.
Speaker C:Sure.
Speaker B:So that way, Harrison could sort of.
Speaker B:It was sort of my incentive of, like, yes, Roman, you did send us a suggestion.
Speaker B:I didn't get a chance to run it by the guys.
Speaker B:We will talk about that.
Speaker B:But I shout out to that family.
Speaker B:So that sounds thoughts and thoughts and thoughts and good vibes their way, because that sounds real, real rough.
Speaker B:But so anyway, so Harrison and I, we used to do, like, a movie night.
Speaker B:And so this was a good incentive of, like, hey, we're gonna read, and then we'll watch the movie, and then he can kind of compare, and then we can have questions like, well, what did you think?
Speaker B:Which one do you like better?
Speaker B:Like, and so we can kind of talk about it.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:And as I mentioned, this past weekend, we finished Deathly Hallows part two.
Speaker B:So we've done all of that, like, back to back.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:And this was.
Speaker B:This was a slog.
Speaker B:Like, this was.
Speaker B:Now, to our credit, we.
Speaker B:Every road, every road trip, we would listen to the book on tape, and then we would just pick up where we left off when we got home or to wherever we were, like, reading in person.
Speaker B:So, Marcus, did you have a question?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:How can just.
Speaker A:How much space was in between finishing the book and then in any capacity, and then starting a movie for each movie?
Speaker B:Great question.
Speaker B:Oftentimes, like, about a day.
Speaker B:So, I mean, unless we.
Speaker B:It was within the week, because the Wagner tradition in our house is that, like, Friday nights are, like, a formal movie night.
Speaker B:We're like, I will make a pizza.
Speaker B:Like, I'll make it from scratch.
Speaker B:They'll have.
Speaker B:We'll have pizza in a movie.
Speaker B:It's just something to sort of get us through to look forward to at the end of the work.
Speaker B:At the end of the week, however, Harrison's on this thing about Domino's.
Speaker B:Like, and we have to keep dominoes.
Speaker B:I get it, and I want to.
Speaker A:Oh, you mean the pizza place.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Not the game.
Speaker B:Not the game, but the pizza place.
Speaker A:He's a smart kid.
Speaker A:He would pick up Domino's pretty quickly.
Speaker B:He would also pick up Domino's.
Speaker B:Um, yeah, he would.
Speaker B:He would play bones pretty quickly.
Speaker B:Um, anyway, um, so, like, I.
Speaker A:That was funny.
Speaker A:Harrison just leafing over.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:But anyway, so, like, it would be within the week.
Speaker B:So, like, if we finished it on a Tuesday, I mean, you're talking maybe five days between when we would watch it.
Speaker B:So they were pretty quick.
Speaker B:And there's something that I, like.
Speaker B:I revisited some of these.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Having not watched them because, I mean, I would read the book and then we got through the books and then it was just movies after that.
Speaker B:But I've never gone back and revisited the book since.
Speaker B:Oh, first time that I went back and, like, read them and read them close to like.
Speaker B:So this was both a journey for him as well as a journey for me.
Speaker B:Here's what I noticed.
Speaker B:I don't think those movies after.
Speaker B:After Goblet of Fire are as good as you remember them.
Speaker A:Jesus Christ.
Speaker A:All right, let's get into your breakdown, brother.
Speaker C:Sir.
Speaker A:Here's the reason why they definitely grow the fuck up.
Speaker A:I'll tell you that.
Speaker B:Holy shit.
Speaker B:They grow.
Speaker A:They grow the fuck up.
Speaker B:So first order the phoenix is a challenge.
Speaker B:So here's what I will say.
Speaker B:Being a reasonable man, I'm going to say that.
Speaker B:Look, that book is what, I mean, it's the longest one.
Speaker B:I mean, it is.
Speaker B:It's almost 900 pages.
Speaker A:You're introducing.
Speaker A:You're introducing a new concept of an Avengers team in the world of Harry Potter.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, it's 870 pages.
Speaker B:They cover a shit load ground in that time frame.
Speaker B:However.
Speaker A:God damn this movie.
Speaker B:This is rough.
Speaker B:But this movie, the way it is cut for the first half of this movie is jarring and disorgan.
Speaker B:Like dis combobulating at best.
Speaker B:The fades in and out are hard to follow.
Speaker B:You're not sure what time of day it is, but it will be like newspaper spinning, article swooping.
Speaker B:Hey, here's Harry having a conversation with Dudley.
Speaker B:Fast forward to rocketing through London.
Speaker B:Another like, spitting newspaper.
Speaker B:And you're like, what time of day is this?
Speaker B:What has happened?
Speaker B:The pace.
Speaker B:The pace of this movie is just insane.
Speaker A:Sorry, can I pause you here?
Speaker A:Can I just want to pause you here?
Speaker A:Can somebody help me with what is order of the Phoenix?
Speaker A:Squeeze between what comes before.
Speaker A:Just a reminder.
Speaker A:What comes after halfway.
Speaker A:Couple of fire coming before is crazy because that's wildest ends with death.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yes, yes.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:And I think.
Speaker B:And the other thing is is that like, all of them after not just order the phoenix, all of them are just so dark.
Speaker B:And I don't mean like subject matter because that's source material.
Speaker B:They're supposed to be darkest.
Speaker B:They are.
Speaker B:Like, you would have thought Zack Snyder was shooting some of these with how dark contrast wise they are.
Speaker B:I was.
Speaker B:I was not.
Speaker B:I was.
Speaker B:I knew.
Speaker B:You knew that he shoots things.
Speaker A:I'm not on that heel.
Speaker B:Darker.
Speaker B:No, but it was just.
Speaker B:It was so.
Speaker B:It was so odd to see things like just like, hey, we kind of put everything in grayscale.
Speaker B:Are you guys okay with that?
Speaker B:And I mean, I guess it's blue, it matches.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:Okay, keep, I keep cutting you off.
Speaker C:Keep going because I finish your feelings.
Speaker A:Me.
Speaker A:Me or Duke?
Speaker C:Either.
Speaker B:Either, either.
Speaker B:And then the other thing is it's like just the choices of some of the things that they omit.
Speaker B:Now again, you're taking type of like books that are like between 550 to 900 pages long and you're trying to condense them down into something that is 2 hours.
Speaker B:That's tough.
Speaker B:I mean you don't have time like Peter Jackson does to just be like, I gave this three and a half hours.
Speaker B:Like these are at their end.
Speaker B:I mean these are young adult novels.
Speaker B:I would say they're young adult novels like ya novels that you're turning into a material.
Speaker B:Like, no twelve year old is like, hey, let me, I really want to watch a four hour movie about a wizard, like and get into every nook and cranny.
Speaker B:Like some of it you can just leave out.
Speaker B:But here's the best example I have of it.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And again, if I'm spoiling this book for you, I am mean, oh sorry.
Speaker C:Look, spoiler alert for everything.
Speaker C:Harry Potter if that needs to be said.
Speaker B:But here's what I'm gonna say.
Speaker B:So book seven, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.
Speaker B:Harry makes significant choices based on the presence of the Deathly Hallows.
Speaker B:They introduce this concept in part one and then they go, you know what?
Speaker B:They get it, fuck it.
Speaker B:And they just never touch it again in movie two, like never again.
Speaker B:And, and there are significant choices that Harry as a character makes based on he even has a conversation in the book.
Speaker B:And again, this is recency bias because I literally just read this.
Speaker B:But like he, he literally said, he literally says like hey, I have a choice.
Speaker B:I can either go after the Hallows or Horcruxes.
Speaker B:And he goes, I feel like Dumbledore would want me to do Horcruxes that like battle for him never happens in the movie, ever.
Speaker B:Period.
Speaker B:Yeah, so I mean they're tough.
Speaker B:I mean I will say that part two of Deathly Hallows, the movie, that one has such a moat, so much emotion tied to it.
Speaker C:Oh my gosh.
Speaker B:Especially that scene where he's going to see Dumbledore for the first.
Speaker B:Going to see Voldemort in the woods, his, where his parents in Sirius show up.
Speaker B:Oh fuck.
Speaker B:Like that is a very heavy moment.
Speaker B:Very heavy in the books.
Speaker B:They did a good job with the screen.
Speaker B:And I would say for the most part, those two things work really, really well.
Speaker B:But it is.
Speaker B:There are moments where I'm like, what are we doing here?
Speaker B:Like, there's just like.
Speaker B:Like, what are we doing here?
Speaker A:Nicki said, girl, the Harry Potter has been out forever.
Speaker B:I mean, that's fair point.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, that's my.
Speaker B:That's my.
Speaker A:I'm gonna go first because I have less research or factuals behind my shit.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker C:You go ahead.
Speaker C:You go.
Speaker A:Doug is right.
Speaker A:In certain points, like, in certain points in this, they do shoot it dark, even the darkest corner.
Speaker A:And I know that that needs to matches the story that they're telling because the way order of the Phoenix takes off, I do believe, is somebody's dying at the beginning.
Speaker A:You see Voldemort at the table with somebody floating above.
Speaker A:Is that order of the Phoenix or the snow?
Speaker B:That's deathly hallows.
Speaker B:So order the Phoenix is.
Speaker B:He is.
Speaker B:I mean, Harry is having a hard time going in and out of.
Speaker B:Is he mind at that point in time?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:You're not wrong.
Speaker B:He is flirting with that.
Speaker B:He is.
Speaker B:No, that is.
Speaker C:No, no, no.
Speaker B:Black woman.
Speaker C:And then the dementia attack.
Speaker B:Oh, this is.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Got it.
Speaker A:This is crazy.
Speaker A:This is what I was.
Speaker C:This is how they open the movie.
Speaker C:This is like him and Dudley.
Speaker C:And it's like.
Speaker C:Anyway, Harry almost dies.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:Yes, it's the darkest scene because one.
Speaker A:I agree with the movies.
Speaker A:One of the things, the movie out there, I think they could have did better, and I hope they do better in this new series is the dementors.
Speaker A:Because that is such a terrifying point of Harry Potter story of, like, look at this motherfucker sneaking up on you.
Speaker A:It's still creepy.
Speaker A:It's like they suck.
Speaker A:The memories, life, soul, whatever it is.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, they leave you limpless on the floor.
Speaker B:And again, not in the good way.
Speaker A:Not in a fun way.
Speaker A:You have to shoot this entire.
Speaker A:You started like this, so it has to be in this blueish, winter ish, London.
Speaker A:Winter London.
Speaker A:Whatever weather, stormy type of vibe.
Speaker A:I get that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:I love the fact that this movie had to grow the fuck up because the way that the last movie.
Speaker A:And I do believe they changed directors at this point, too.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker C:Order of the Phoenix changed David Yates, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker B:Yeah, they changed.
Speaker B:So there was a lot of changes.
Speaker B:So one and two had a different.
Speaker B:Dumbledore had a different.
Speaker B:It was Peter O'Toole, wasn't it?
Speaker B:Like, was the original, like.
Speaker B:And then he died and then that's when they selected Michael Gammon, who you'll recognize from things like layer cake, which was a mob movie with Daniel Craig, which is very good.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, like, he was.
Speaker B:He's a british actor.
Speaker B:You've seen him in like that.
Speaker B:You would know him when you see him.
Speaker B:He was in the life aquatic.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:Richard.
Speaker C:Richard Harris was the original Richard Harris.
Speaker B:Not Peter O'Toole, but it was Richard Harris.
Speaker B:And then he passed, and then they switched directors between two and three and then again after four.
Speaker B:And then it was.
Speaker B:So somebody did three and four different, and then it was five, six and seven were a different set of.
Speaker A:I mean, it's just.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:I like order of the Phoenix, and I'll let Brian get his shit off.
Speaker A:I like order of the Phoenix specifically.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:God, what is the one with the kid?
Speaker A:He's my boy.
Speaker A:That's my boy.
Speaker A:Is.
Speaker A:That is a dark scene.
Speaker A:I laugh at it now, but it's a dark ass scene to, like, end, to wrap up a movie being like, oh, fuck.
Speaker A:They're playing the trumpets over my boy's dead body because he's back and it's no longer a rumor.
Speaker A:This motherfucker Voldemort is back.
Speaker B:The only reason why I laugh at that is because of the.
Speaker B:I get tricked.
Speaker B:Oh, not tricked, but I like the videos where it's like, who's that Pokemon?
Speaker B:And it's supposed to look like.
Speaker B:It's supposed to look like Diglett, but then it like, it's Cedric Diggory and it's just his gravestone.
Speaker B:And it goes, that's my boy.
Speaker C:Oh, no.
Speaker B:Every time.
Speaker B:It's fucked up and it makes me laugh.
Speaker C:I mean, it is.
Speaker A:It is, Brian.
Speaker A:Go ahead, take it away.
Speaker C:That's my boy.
Speaker A:Because they're playing trumpets over his body.
Speaker A:Turn the metro boom and drums off, bitch.
Speaker A:My son is dead.
Speaker B:My favorite moment from order of the Phoenix.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker B:Sorry, Brad.
Speaker B:My favorite moment from Goblet of fire is when.
Speaker B:Is when.
Speaker B:After they pull all the names out and Dumbledore comes into the back room and he runs up to here, he's.
Speaker A:Like, did you put your fucking name in there?
Speaker B:Fucking the book.
Speaker B:It's like, harry, did you put your name in there?
Speaker B:But in the book, in the movie, he, like, runs up and he, like, shakes him and it's the foot.
Speaker B:And you can see he, like, tripped over shit on set.
Speaker B:It's the funniest thing ever.
Speaker A:Dumbledore.
Speaker A:Dumbledore was.
Speaker A:He turned into a completely different character once, like, after a goblet oh yeah.
Speaker A:Cuz it was like there was a one point he was ignoring Harry the entire time.
Speaker A:Like, you know, every time I tried to cross the country he like, anyway, go ahead, Brian.
Speaker C:No, I was trying to pull up, I was trying to pull up the moment that I'm gonna have to find it later cuz I gotta, I gotta go on my order of the Phoenix B's.
Speaker C:Okay, cuz look, I'm not saying order of the Phoenix is the best movie you're ever gonna watch.
Speaker C:What I will say though is that order of the Phoenix streamlined that book and I enjoy the order of that.
Speaker B:That's fake.
Speaker C:But the thing that David Yates world.
Speaker A:Expansion beyond the cat, oh, there's a ton.
Speaker C:There's so much world building that happens in there that like half blood Prince almost just kind of feels like a prequel in its own story.
Speaker C:Um, I mean, you do get some reveals, but it's like there's so much that happens in order of the Phoenix.
Speaker C:You read half Blood Prince or you watch half Blood prince, you're like, oh, like, okay, well, I'm gonna watch Deathly Hallows.
Speaker C:Obviously this is not a full meal.
Speaker C:This is like, this is like a burger.
Speaker C:I would like some fries with it.
Speaker C:I understand it's a meal on its own, but it doesn't feel like it.
Speaker C:Anyway, order of the Phoenix streamlines all of these subplots that were included in the original book.
Speaker C:And, yeah, like, some of them are fine, some of them are not.
Speaker C:And I feel like what David Yates did with his direction is like, he basically finishes out the Harry Potter movies at this point.
Speaker C:So he does Phoenix Prince Hollows one and two.
Speaker C:And so clearly, like, the producers had this vision of like, all right, after Goblet of Fire, we're done being whimsy swimsy, going to Hogsmeade and getting butterbeer and oh, Harry.
Speaker C:And oh, we're gonna just do some cahoots here over Christmas.
Speaker C:Like, all that is done.
Speaker C:You're grown up now.
Speaker B:Someone's, yeah, everybody is kissing each other.
Speaker B:They're basically fucking in the hallways.
Speaker B:And then on top of that, someone is actively trying to keep.
Speaker C:I'm, oh, gosh, am I really going to do this?
Speaker C:I'm going to do this.
Speaker C:Do I need, I need to be more intoxicated for this and talk about it privately?
Speaker C:But like, the amount of romancing that would be happening in that school would be off the charts.
Speaker B:Like I'm talking, there is not a newborn infant of that fucking school.
Speaker A:Like, there's no better condom than a wizard condom.
Speaker C:Look, man, I mean, you could put.
Speaker B:An unbreakable curse on that thing.
Speaker B:No issues ever again.
Speaker C:What I will say is that if you're like, yeah, Brian, you're right.
Speaker C:And you have that vibe, you should read the magicians by Lev Grossman because it basically dives into that concept underneath visibility cloak.
Speaker B:Brian, I read that book on your recommendation, and you are a hundred percent correct.
Speaker C:Yeah, the magicians tv show is also really good, but basically Lev Grossman looked at Harry Potter and was like, what if?
Speaker C:What?
Speaker C:But what if it wasn't just all like squeaky clean?
Speaker C:And they get into it and it's wonderful.
Speaker C:Anyway, order of the Phoenix, they streamline all this stuff.
Speaker C:So I get, they're throwing out subplots and they're not focusing on certain characters or certain like, environments or places.
Speaker C:But you get such a tighter narrative and it's one of the shorter, I think it is one of the shorter movies.
Speaker C:I'm going to double check.
Speaker C:But, like, it streamlines it to this point of like, there's bad stuff going on under the surface.
Speaker C:Harry can't figure it out.
Speaker C:You kind of start to figure out why Dumbledore is the way he is.
Speaker C:And then on top of it, my favorite message is that the school can't teach them anything more, so they're going to teach themselves.
Speaker C:And if that isn't the true spirit of education, I don't know what is.
Speaker C:And I, I love that.
Speaker C:So that is why I have a soft spot in this movie.
Speaker C:I do get your point, though, Doug, that it feels like, oh, wow, sheepers.
Speaker B:Oh boy, oh boy.
Speaker C:Ed pills mention on the comments.
Speaker A:I think it's our fault that our comment section is like, this.
Speaker C:Is this, are we, are we the reason this our fault?
Speaker A:These are our Frankenstein.
Speaker C:Stein's in the chat, but I understand why David Yates was like, look, there's just, there's too much going on.
Speaker C:Can we just, can we just show spinning newspapers and move on with our life?
Speaker C:I want to get, I want to get to serious black dying.
Speaker B:Okay, I have to get that now.
Speaker C:Yeah, we, we have to get to this pronto.
Speaker C:Which is why, Doug, I do agree.
Speaker C:Some of the stuff does feel rushed.
Speaker C:I feel like order of the Phoenix could have been a three hour movie.
Speaker C:I think that, but I think for people that read the books, they would have been totally fine with it.
Speaker C:And I feel like I, here's my thing.
Speaker C:I think one of the masteries of this series is that pivot from Goblet of Fire.
Speaker C:And I feel like the contrast is done so well at the end of this movie, when they're in the Met, the Ministry of Magic stuff has fallen down.
Speaker C:They don't know where they are.
Speaker C:Stuff is dark, y'all.
Speaker C:Even when they were fighting the giant snake, they had a well lit sewer.
Speaker C:This.
Speaker C:You could just, you could get lost in the shadow and you're just gone.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Go ahead.
Speaker B:To your point, Brian.
Speaker B:This is the first time where the.
Speaker B:The main kids of that movie, and I'll lump like Harry, Ron, Hermione, Luna, like, all of them.
Speaker B:Other adults, like non school teacher adults are trying to kill them.
Speaker B:Like, not, not like prevent them from getting away.
Speaker B:Not like, oh.
Speaker B:Like, oh, I put a binding curse.
Speaker B:Like, you can't move until we leave.
Speaker B:They're like, no, I'm.
Speaker B:This isn't.
Speaker B:I'm gonna fucking kill you.
Speaker B:Like, do you understand?
Speaker B:Like, that is how seriously we take what's happening.
Speaker B:So it's kind of wild.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I mean, I do like that point because it kind of raises the of like, yeah, no, like, this is everyone.
Speaker C:Everyone is literally out to kid.
Speaker C:Not everyone, but like there's a lot of people that are out to kill you.
Speaker C:So better.
Speaker C:You better just figure it out.
Speaker C:And there's no.
Speaker C:Dumbledore is not helpful.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:And this is when it kind of starts.
Speaker C:It's revealed in half blood Prince.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:That it's like, hey, like, bad, bad stuff is happening.
Speaker C:But, like, you even have the Malfoys.
Speaker C:I just brought it up.
Speaker C:If you're on our live stream, like the Malfoys, this kind of feels like a moment, by the way, of like you.
Speaker C:Like, you know, the people in your town are like, you might be a KKK member and then it's this moment.
Speaker C:You're like, okay.
Speaker C:So you're just.
Speaker C:You're walking around with that outfit.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:Yeah, that is what this is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Which is one of the parts, like, of this movie that is so shocking because you get to see that page turn and be like, oh, it's bad.
Speaker C:It's real bad.
Speaker A:I do think.
Speaker A:I think this.
Speaker A:I think that what we're discussing now kind of.
Speaker A:And I like Doug's point and I, and I see why he is where he's like, why he said what he said.
Speaker A:And so I agree with that because of that from my perspective.
Speaker A:But it's the fact when I live tweeted Harry Potter when I rewatched it a couple years ago, and a lot of people agreed.
Speaker A:A lot of people, the few people that pay attention to me, like, live, a lot of people are they?
Speaker A:Love the fact that I kept reiterating that at this point, Harry is, what, 14?
Speaker A:Seven.
Speaker A:Like, 17 and 16.
Speaker A:Like, 15.
Speaker A:Like, he's young.
Speaker A:Like, this is a kid and his friends are kids.
Speaker A:I think that the change of tone is almost important to the story.
Speaker A:Like, could you do it better?
Speaker A:I agree.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:There is a way to do it, and you can do it better.
Speaker A:And the cuts are a lot because I do feel like he was kind of, like, trying to trim the fat of introducing outside Hogwarts adult magical concepts, because that is the group of people that want Harry dead.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:It's not the kids inside the fun.
Speaker A:Let's eat some jelly beans the whole time and drink some hogs meat.
Speaker C:Oh, magic frogs.
Speaker C:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:It's a magic chocolate frog.
Speaker A:And fireworks.
Speaker A:No, it's the motherfuckers outside in Diagon Alley that want to jump his ass as soon as he get out there.
Speaker A:And I feel like that tone and that cinematography, that bluish gray, darker tone, helps to propel that forward so that you can have moments, like when they're at the Quidditch World cup and you see the fireworks and you see the liveliness of, like, oh, my God.
Speaker A:Like, this is what a football game, quote, unquote, would feel like in a magical war or a soccer.
Speaker A:Soccer would be the better comparison there.
Speaker A:But, like, this is what an international soccer game would feel like in that level.
Speaker A:So I see it.
Speaker A:I see both sides of it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And again, everybody's gonna take some, like, creative interpretation.
Speaker B:So it was.
Speaker B:These are mainly things that I noticed, and it's.
Speaker B:It's little, tiny details that, in the grand scheme of things, don't matter.
Speaker B:Like, here's an example.
Speaker B:The one that you just had in the book at the Quidditch World Cup, Harry is in the minister's box.
Speaker B:Like, he is rubbing shoulders.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And yet, when it's in the movie, they're like, have fun with your poor seats.
Speaker B:Like, deadbeat.
Speaker B:Like, that's essentially the.
Speaker B:Like in the movie.
Speaker B:That's essentially the movie.
Speaker B:So it's just.
Speaker B:And there's always gonna be those creative rotations, but it's some of those little things.
Speaker B:But, Brian, you're right.
Speaker B:Like, do I need to.
Speaker B:Like, do I need to watch Harry and cho chin on a date in the movie?
Speaker B:Like, absolutely.
Speaker A:Like, I mean, on screen.
Speaker A:Like, in a way of, like, they did all this, like, extra build up to Harry's romance with several people.
Speaker A:Like Hermione's Roman, his.
Speaker A:His romantic interest.
Speaker A:And then when they introduced Jenny, it doesn't even feel like a real romantic interest.
Speaker B:Out of nowhere, it comes out of left field.
Speaker A:You can tell it's a last minute decision.
Speaker A:Like, don't introduce the concept at all.
Speaker A:I just thought I.
Speaker B:The director's credit.
Speaker B:That is book accurate.
Speaker B:Because at the end of six, they have this big, like, kissing moment.
Speaker B:They embrace at the borough at, like, Ron's house.
Speaker B:And then he's like, look, lady, I got shit to do.
Speaker B:The fucking world needs me to just fucking kill this guy.
Speaker B:So, like, don't move on.
Speaker B:But, like, just.
Speaker B:It's the.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's like, I'll be back, babe.
Speaker B:Don't worry about it like that.
Speaker B:Essentially, it.
Speaker C:I'm.
Speaker C:I'm fine.
Speaker C:Leaving our order of the Phoenix situation where it is.
Speaker C:That's fine.
Speaker C:The thing I do want to say, though, her money and will.
Speaker C:Well, well.
Speaker C:And that got black.
Speaker A:Just more black.
Speaker B:Like, there were two.
Speaker B:I mean, there were two demonstrably black characters in this whole movie.
Speaker A:And it's not.
Speaker A:And it's not the dementors, and it's not.
Speaker B:There's.
Speaker B:There is not even a black professor.
Speaker B:There are two black characters.
Speaker B:There is Dean Thomas and Kingsley Shacklebolt.
Speaker B:And that is.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:That is all of them.
Speaker B:That is shackle bolt.
Speaker B:And you gave the black police officer the last of Shackle bolt.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, it's bad.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's real bad.
Speaker A:Shackle bolt.
Speaker C:I'm not even gonna.
Speaker C:Yeah, I hate it.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:To show people we're not, like, kidding around.
Speaker A:I didn't even.
Speaker C:It is.
Speaker C:It is.
Speaker C:It is the first thing, but, yeah.
Speaker C:Also, people have similar feelings about.
Speaker A:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker C:I agree.
Speaker B:This fucking shit with.
Speaker B:With.
Speaker B:We should have this fucking shit with the author a long time because there are subtle hints at all of these books.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:And by the way, they're all said by Ron where he's like, what are you acting like a girl or something?
Speaker B:Weirdo.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker B:Like, that's actually all the time.
Speaker B:Effort throughout the whole thing.
Speaker A:While Ron is like, he's misogynistic.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And ends up with Hermione, who is in all degrees, a feminist.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Women empower.
Speaker A:The embodiment of women empowerment and educated woman that, like, you put Ron and she falls in love with Ronald Weasley, the most, like, misogynistic character in the book.
Speaker C:This is a good reason to join our Patreon.
Speaker C:You can join our live stream.
Speaker C:Go to patreon.com films in black.
Speaker C:Yeah, no, it is.
Speaker C:Mason triggered my black.
Speaker C:JK.
Speaker C:Yeah, JK.
Speaker C:Anyway, I don't know how you can go watch deathly hollows?
Speaker C:And I pulled up the dancing scene, by the way, in Deathly Hallows part one.
Speaker C:How do you see Harry and Hermione having fun dancing in a tent?
Speaker C:They are rebels on the run.
Speaker C:They do not have running water.
Speaker C:They probably smell terrible like that hair is greasy.
Speaker C:They probably haven't had good food that.
Speaker C:But they're having a blast.
Speaker C:Look at how happy they are.
Speaker C:I go watch this scene.
Speaker C:If you're listening to this on the pod not with us on the live stream because this is.
Speaker C:Yes, this is.
Speaker C:I'm sorry.
Speaker C:Yes, I get it.
Speaker C:They're friends.
Speaker C:And me like, oh, you can have platonic friends, whatever.
Speaker C:Yeah, you can.
Speaker C:But I watched that scene and I think, yeah, Hermione and Harry should have been together.
Speaker C:They should have been together 100%.
Speaker C:I don't know how you can watch that scene and think anything.
Speaker C:Yeah, anything different.
Speaker C:And it also.
Speaker C:It also tracks with like the arc of the entire series because it's always.
Speaker C:It's always Harry being like, I got an idea and I'm gonna do it.
Speaker C:And then Hermione's like, well, hang on, can we think this through?
Speaker C:And that happens for like most of the series.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:Wonderful foil to Harry's kind of like impulsiveness and adaptiveness and like when Hermione freezes up, Harry's there for her.
Speaker A:Wasn't there age difference in Harry and Jenny too?
Speaker A:Like, that seems very.
Speaker B:There is like, that seems odd.
Speaker A:Very strange.
Speaker B:Not a small number either.
Speaker B:It's not like she was a year behind.
Speaker B:She is ostensibly two to three years younger than he is.
Speaker A:And you're.
Speaker A:And you've been a guest in Ron's house.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That just almost feels like.
Speaker A:Were you just like.
Speaker C:I mean, like.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:I mean, no, apparently she's only one year younger than Ron.
Speaker C:Hermione and Harry how to fuck.
Speaker C:I guess that isn't.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, you're right.
Speaker B:Yeah, you're right.
Speaker C:I am looking at something, though, that Bellatrix and Voldemort are 25 years apart.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:She wants to jump his snake.
Speaker C:Yeah, you can enjoy that.
Speaker A:Mental skin of a.
Speaker A:He got the skin of a lamb skin condom.
Speaker C:He doesn't even have nose.
Speaker C:He's just smooth.
Speaker C:He's just a snake.
Speaker B:Smooth everywhere.
Speaker B:Like a Kendall.
Speaker C:That dude has shaved off seven pieces of his soul.
Speaker C:So like, I don't know what's.
Speaker A:And the dick was definitely one of them, cuz like, how do you not go like, that's an important piece.
Speaker C:Look man, I don't know how magic works, but it's.
Speaker C:It's a.
Speaker C:It's clever.
Speaker C:So I would have messed with that.
Speaker C:And it probably.
Speaker C:No, no, thank you.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It all in all, again, this is, this is the ramblings of a sil of silly people.
Speaker B:Like, and so.
Speaker A:Like, he doesn't have a nose.
Speaker B:But in all seriousness, I mean, the book, it is a fun journey to go down.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:If you have the time and you have the inclination.
Speaker B:I also really want to revisit a topic we have talked about before, which is the wildness of fantastic beasts and where to find them.
Speaker B:Two and three.
Speaker B:Because when we say these were movies that were built from a chapter of the 7th book, that is quite literally what happened there is this, like, they were just best friends.
Speaker B:And literally the people who made the movies went, okay, so, like, what if they were best friends, but also, like, maybe they, like, kissed when they were in college and then wanted to conquer the world together.
Speaker B:Like, that is essentially the same vibe.
Speaker B:That's true.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:The, like, sitcom storyline of like the.
Speaker B:Oh, she's like a sister.
Speaker B:And then there was that one time in college, like, that joke.
Speaker B:They were like, just fucking make it two movies and then make a horse that lies.
Speaker B:That's all that you have.
Speaker A:What it was, it was a fucking lion horse.
Speaker B:It was a lion horse.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:There we go.
Speaker B:Go ahead, Brett.
Speaker C:Well, no, I do see that the giver of gifts in the comment section is a true.
Speaker C:Dumbledore had a picture of Gandalf the Gray in his office.
Speaker C:I have never seen this Easter egg.
Speaker B:I've not seen that Easter egg either.
Speaker C:I've heard people talk about it.
Speaker C:I have nothing.
Speaker C:I have not seen it.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:So I'll guess.
Speaker C:I'll look.
Speaker C:Guess I gotta watch the movies again.
Speaker C:It's in Chamber of Secrets, apparently.
Speaker C:I guess I'll check that out, huh?
Speaker B:Yeah, I'll check that out, too.
Speaker C:Honestly, the thing that stands out to me on the rewatches is that that prisoner of Azkaban somehow snuck up on me as being like, a top three Harry Potter movie.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, not only Harry Potter story, but it's.
Speaker C:It's a good fire.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That is the best one.
Speaker A:I feel like they.
Speaker A:Wait, I want a young, serious black movie.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And there's enough young actors that we can get to get, like, his early years or the family.
Speaker A:Like the black family, you know, I mean, from the world of Harry Potter.
Speaker A:And it's just black in an explosive lightning font.
Speaker A:I just I really enjoy being able to see that along with some of, like, the inch, like, how series black got introduced to Harry's parents.
Speaker A:Like, that kind of a prequel.
Speaker A:But also, my same itch with Harry Potter is the same itch I have with Star Wars.
Speaker A:I want to see more outside of the main character building or an introduction of a new main.
Speaker A:That's not just Harry that holds just as much weight.
Speaker A:You know, I mean, somebody that's not a skywalker, that can tell their story, that holds just as much weight.
Speaker A:Like, yeah, because I do that.
Speaker A:World building was crazy for Star wars and for Harry Potter.
Speaker A:Oh, we should have more of that.
Speaker B:And that's.
Speaker B:And that's why I think fantastic beasts and where to find them.
Speaker B:One, I think, does that really, really well.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker B:Because it's like, hey, it's wizards in the United States.
Speaker B:And look at all these weird animals that they have and all the different things.
Speaker B:And when they have to go and find them all to put them all back, that is a perfect.
Speaker B:Like, that.
Speaker B:That portion of the storyline is, yeah, done.
Speaker B:Like, that's all you need to do.
Speaker B:And then they were like, let's just try and stretch this out.
Speaker B:And that's where it started to get how it got weird.
Speaker A:Um, I'm 50 50 on Tom Riddle because I feel like we get that a lot in.
Speaker B:That sounds like Joker, but make it wizards.
Speaker A:I don't, honestly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:That is like a little darth Vader iihdem.
Speaker C:I like, I could get there, make.
Speaker B:It into a musical, make Lady Gaga.
Speaker C:Worse than she usually sings.
Speaker B:Marcus, that is the perfect.
Speaker B:That is the perfect main theme song.
Speaker B:Would you like to hear a riddle?
Speaker B:I've got a riddle for, like, it's all like a riddle.
Speaker A:Um, Thomas Riddle.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker C:He's the riddle man.
Speaker B:I don't know why I.
Speaker B:That's this.
Speaker B:This is me singing on Broadway.
Speaker A:You gotta have the jazz hands, and.
Speaker B:That'S the way it's gotta be.
Speaker C:And then it ends with, like, a.
Speaker C:Like, an explosion.
Speaker A:Poof.
Speaker C:And then, like, they all hold, and then they set for the next.
Speaker B:The next drop.
Speaker A:Dementor.
Speaker A:A dementor swipe.
Speaker A:Takes us to the next.
Speaker C:Oh, dementor swipe.
Speaker C:There you go.
Speaker B:That's some fucking top level transition there.
Speaker C:I like that.
Speaker B:Gentlemen, any other thoughts on every boy.
Speaker A:Not you, not ormione may.
Speaker C:Come to die.
Speaker B:That is.
Speaker A:You know, the sad thing is, it's the shriveled up voldemort in.
Speaker A:In hollows.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker A:Definitely have a.
Speaker A:I can't wait for.
Speaker C:Anyone to.
Speaker B:There was a.
Speaker B:There was a recurring fetus joke that I made after that one.
Speaker A:I don't know what the joke was based on that scene.
Speaker A:Oh, well, I don't know.
Speaker B:There was another one.
Speaker B:We watched a movie with a fetus, and you all were bad that I kept bringing it up.
Speaker A:Well, I think it was alien.
Speaker C:No, it was the movie we did with Stephanie Williams.
Speaker C:Oh.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:It was either that or it was alien, but that was all an alien agenda.
Speaker C:There you go.
Speaker C:There's your voldemort, baby.
Speaker C:If you're joining us on the live stream.
Speaker C:I'm so happy you're joining us now.
Speaker B:Like, he tripped.
Speaker C:Like, I think the thing about it.
Speaker A:This is what people think when they say, vote no on g.
Speaker A:It's too extreme.
Speaker A:And it's like, you know, you shouldn't know.
Speaker A:That's not what this is.
Speaker B:This is nothing.
Speaker B:I mean, I don't have a lot of fetus jokes, but I had a couple.
Speaker B:You guys were mad about it.
Speaker C:I mean, it was alien fetus jokes when we were watching deep water.
Speaker C:I can't even remember the name of that movie now.
Speaker C:I'm gonna have to look.
Speaker C:I think the thing that weirds me out the most is that the hand.
Speaker C:The hand is, like, bigger than the foot.
Speaker C:Yeah, it bothers me.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:I don't want that fucking thing to chase me anywhere.
Speaker C:This thing is at the end of the hallway.
Speaker B:You ever, like, run?
Speaker B:Could you ever run?
Speaker B:Like, you hear, like, you ever hear, like, bare feet slap against, like, a linoleum floor?
Speaker B:Oh, I love that.
Speaker C:Bears.
Speaker C:And, you know, and it's not.
Speaker C:Doug's gonna blow out his mic.
Speaker A:It looks it, man.
Speaker A:I got a bunch of jokes I can't even get off.
Speaker A:Go ahead.
Speaker C:I know, right?
Speaker C:I know, I know.
Speaker C:It just kind of looks like a half done chicken wing.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker A:That's what I look like when I wake up in my house is cold in the morning.
Speaker C:You know, I think the most of the most messed up thing about that sequence is the fact that, like, the spirit of Dumbledore is just, like, casually talking to Harry.
Speaker C:And Harry's like, what the hell's that?
Speaker C:Dumbledore is like, don't worry about it.
Speaker C:Don't worry about it.
Speaker C:There's just a dying bloody.
Speaker B:My next question is like, did you do.
Speaker B:That's the thing.
Speaker A:That's the thing about Dumbledore from a deathly hospital on, is he is a just cold motherfucker, bro.
Speaker A:Like, he does not.
Speaker A:He basically revealed when they are.
Speaker A:When him and Harry are doing the task to find the holocron, like, across the water or whatever it is, or I'm like, I forgot what it is.
Speaker C:No, you're.
Speaker C:You're.
Speaker C:You're good.
Speaker A:Is that.
Speaker A:What is Doug laughing at?
Speaker B:Halal croc.
Speaker A:It's halal meat with a holocron.
Speaker C:Oh, no, I heard.
Speaker C:I heard a horcrux.
Speaker C:I heard the.
Speaker A:No, Doug is right.
Speaker C:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:It's halal meat.
Speaker A:It's very inclusive.
Speaker B:Halal.
Speaker A:It's a halal.
Speaker A:Gross.
Speaker A:It's for.
Speaker A:It's for the other Harry Potter.
Speaker A:The international Harry Potter.
Speaker C:The whole separate.
Speaker C:That's a whole separate other thing.
Speaker A:It has a whole thing about a standard, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Um, I ordered the halal crocs meal for this flight.
Speaker B:Are you vegan?
Speaker B:No, halal crocs.
Speaker A:All right, man.
Speaker A:I got nothing else.
Speaker B:No, this is just great.
Speaker B:Um, I will say this.
Speaker B:This is the last thing I'll say.
Speaker B:I did ask.
Speaker B:There was a moment, and this is the fun moment.
Speaker C:So I was.
Speaker C:We know it's coming.
Speaker B:We know it's coming.
Speaker B:I will say this.
Speaker B:I did enjoy watching it with Harrison and having this moment.
Speaker B:We had this moment where he got nervous as we were watching part two, and he was like, oh, I'm scared.
Speaker B:And I'm like, it's okay, buddy.
Speaker B:Like, you know what happens.
Speaker B:I mean, we just.
Speaker B:We just finished the book.
Speaker B:You know, exactly where we are.
Speaker B:He goes, yeah, but it's just.
Speaker B:It's like, he's, like, he said, it's very different reading it versus seeing it.
Speaker B:He's like, it's just very, very different experience.
Speaker B:So it was really cool to sort of have that conversation about, like, how you consume media and how it can have a different outcome based on what you're seeing versus reading.
Speaker B:So I thought that was kind of, that was a cool moment, like, as a dad, like, experiencing that with him.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:I think the next book we're going to dive into is Percy Jackson.
Speaker A:Oh, thank God.
Speaker A:I like, here's my hot take.
Speaker A:Percy Jackson should be better than Harry Potter.
Speaker C:I can get that.
Speaker A:And I think that the new Percy Jackson series does.
Speaker A:Is doing really well.
Speaker B:It should.
Speaker A:It should surpass.
Speaker A:It should be surpassing Harry Potter.
Speaker A:The story of Percy Jackson in general should be surpassing in.
Speaker A:Just as big as Harry Potter.
Speaker A:When it comes to world building.
Speaker C:That's my high take, honestly.
Speaker C:I think it's one of the reasons that HBO Max greenlit the new Harry Potter series, because I think, or they have more confidence in it because I think they saw.
Speaker C:Okay, like, Disney can basically do this, their own version of it, and it was really well received.
Speaker C:And I think.
Speaker C:I also think that making the books a season of a series is.
Speaker C:Is way better than trying to make.
Speaker A:You can explore more.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:A movie.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I think it gets really loosey goosey and weird for, like, books one and two for Harry Potter, but the rest of the books, you can flesh out an eight to ten episode.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And I agree with you, Marcus.
Speaker C:I do feel like there's a lot of books that could be turned into tv shows that could take that.
Speaker C:They should be as big as Harry Potter.
Speaker C:Like, hundred percent.
Speaker C:And, I don't know.
Speaker C:Percy Jackson just never felt like it got.
Speaker C:It got to that level.
Speaker C:It just never felt like it broke into that zeitgeist.
Speaker C:Like, for people who read books know Percy Jackson.
Speaker C:But, man, if you drop Percy Jackson in a list of, like, fictional characters, I think it's like 50 50 people get it, and he's.
Speaker A:And he's a fucking.
Speaker A:And Percy.
Speaker A:Percy and Harry are being around the same age as far as our houses.
Speaker A:Percy Jackson is a powerhouse.
Speaker A:If you look at his fucking resume, right?
Speaker C:He's a God killer.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:His dad is who he is.
Speaker A:This motherfucker, like, denied a gift from the.
Speaker A:From the gods themselves.
Speaker A:Harry is kind of figuring out with the village, but Percy Jackson had to go and, like, figure his shit out on his own.
Speaker A:But that's just a different tangent for a different episode.
Speaker A:I just think Disney has the ability to have a Harry Potter on their hands as far as, like, this magical world building, and I think they thought that was going.
Speaker A:And this is not even a shot.
Speaker A:I think they thought it was going to be Moe Diggums.
Speaker A:I think they thought.
Speaker B:They thought it was gonna be Artemis.
Speaker A:They thought Artemis file was going to be there because they had already had plans for the sequels and everything else.
Speaker C:Really?
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker A:I thought that they did.
Speaker B:They had quest for the magical PlayStation or whatever the fuck it was that they had to, like, find and restore God.
Speaker B:I wish I could watch that movie.
Speaker A:Again for the first time.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker B:I want to go back.
Speaker B:But they.
Speaker B:They robbed us of that, so they did.
Speaker C:You can't even watch that movie now, but you can listen to our review of that on this podcast.
Speaker A:Forever on this podcast.
Speaker B:That podcast episode is a time capsule to a movie that we will all forget, which is.
Speaker B:There we are.
Speaker C:Movie.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:Man, that was fun.
Speaker A:Eraser.
Speaker B:Gentlemen, gentlemen, anything else?
Speaker B:Otherwise, I do have a little.
Speaker B:I do have one last game.
Speaker B:I'd like us to play.
Speaker A:You play a game and I got a game.
Speaker A:I want to end the game on a bracket.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:All right, let's do it.
Speaker B:I have a rank these five things without knowing what's coming.
Speaker B:What's coming next?
Speaker A:That's a long title.
Speaker A:We have to work on that title.
Speaker B:Halloween edition.
Speaker C:Oh, Halloween edition.
Speaker C:Rank them.
Speaker B:I'm gonna give you five horror movie franchises.
Speaker B:Rank them one to five.
Speaker B:So here are the rules.
Speaker B:This will be separate.
Speaker B:So each of you will have your own rankings because people are things you do.
Speaker B:Get one swap.
Speaker B:So if you get through four and you're like, ooh, I want to adjust this a little bit, then you can.
Speaker B:So can we get through all this?
Speaker C:Why?
Speaker A:I meant to ask.
Speaker A:The last time we went through all five and then made a swap, is our swap only one through four or.
Speaker A:And then we have to deal with five?
Speaker B:I can give you.
Speaker B:I can give you all five, and then you can figure out where you want to swap them.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So we're gonna start off with a good one.
Speaker B:And we are going to start off with child's play as your first horror movie franchise.
Speaker C:Hmm.
Speaker A:Child's fuck.
Speaker A:Okay, where do we rank it?
Speaker C:Mm hmm.
Speaker B:One through five.
Speaker A:Child's play for me, being chucky, honestly, would be four or five for me.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Only because I know that there's better out there.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:Child's play for I honestly, I'm gonna be honest, these movies have never vibed with me.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:Like, child's play is in the bottom for me.
Speaker A:One.
Speaker A:Are we doing one list or two?
Speaker B:Separate.
Speaker B:This is two separate.
Speaker B:So you each have your own.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:List.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:The next one is going to be the evil dead franchise.
Speaker C:Oh, that's man.
Speaker A:Can you give me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Can you give me a reminder about the evil day of franchise it is?
Speaker B:They're trapped in the woods.
Speaker B:They find the Book of the Dead.
Speaker B:They're kind of staying at this creepy cabin.
Speaker B:They find that the person who owned the cabin before was doing some suspicious research about the book of the dead.
Speaker B:And they awaken evil spirits that come and proceed to kill everybody in that house, minus Bruce Campbell is sort of the last one standing.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so that's.
Speaker B:That's evil dead.
Speaker A:Can we can.
Speaker A:Brian, I'm sorry.
Speaker A:Can you put child's play at five and put evil dead at four?
Speaker C:Sure, sure.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:Here'S the thing.
Speaker C:Evil dead.
Speaker C:So it gets weird.
Speaker C:It gets real weird, cuz, like, army of darkness is not like army of darkness.
Speaker C:Technically.
Speaker C:Technically an evil dead film.
Speaker C:But I would not call army of darkness like a horror film.
Speaker B:No, it's like comedy fantasy horror film.
Speaker C:Kind of.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's like dark fantasy.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker C:Like a little bit.
Speaker C:Um, I mean, because he gets transported to, like, the medieval times.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:The chainsaw arm.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So I don't know.
Speaker C:But then.
Speaker C: er point, they rebooted it in: Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And, like, good.
Speaker C:So this is a long way of me saying number four for.
Speaker C:I would put it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:All right, let's go with saw.
Speaker B:The saw franchise.
Speaker B:Oh, Mandy entry.
Speaker A:I think for me, horror is not really my bag.
Speaker B:We are 15 days to Halloween, so that's why we did it.
Speaker A:Yeah, I feel you.
Speaker A:I definitely think saw right now.
Speaker A:Let's put saw it, too, because I more saw movies than I have.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:That's presented right now.
Speaker C:I think I'm gonna gamble and I'm gonna put saw at three, because the thing for me is that the soft franchise as a whole is just flipping bonkers.
Speaker C:Like, the quality of it is all over the place.
Speaker C:Like, one and two are good, three is fine, and then four is a prequel, technically.
Speaker C:And then you get to five, which doesn't really advance the plot.
Speaker C:And then I can't tell you the difference between, like, six and.
Speaker A:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker C:I can't tell you.
Speaker A:What's the one with the laser.
Speaker A:The laser neck.
Speaker A:He had the laser.
Speaker A:Laser neck.
Speaker A:And then it turns out he was lying because they were the final two, and they had this necklace of lasers that was gonna swipe their heads open.
Speaker A:We watched it on this pie.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker A:Don't worry about it.
Speaker A:Yeah, I can't remember, and I don't.
Speaker C:Remember that at all.
Speaker A:It was a salt movie.
Speaker A:I can't.
Speaker B:Viral.
Speaker B:Was that that, like, saw?
Speaker C:Was that.
Speaker A:No, I didn't watch Spiral.
Speaker A:I don't need that matter.
Speaker B:All right, the next one, we are going to go with the Halloween franchise.
Speaker C:Oh, man.
Speaker A:Jigsaw the 7th.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Macy, you're absolutely correct.
Speaker C:There it is.
Speaker A:My dog breathing.
Speaker A:Christ, Amber, this is what, again?
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker B:Halloween.
Speaker A:I feel like.
Speaker A:All right, let's put.
Speaker A:Sorry, Bryant.
Speaker A:Put solid three.
Speaker A:That was a good decision.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker A:Halloween is a more long.
Speaker A:It has, like, a lot of longevity to it.
Speaker A:Just simply put, that motherfucker won't die.
Speaker A:So I think Halloween has to be at two.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A:I don't like Halloween movies per se.
Speaker A:Like, I'm not gonna go out of my way to watch them, but this is a popularity wise.
Speaker C:Okay, I.
Speaker C:Here's a.
Speaker C:Here's what I was gambling on.
Speaker C:This is the games ship of it.
Speaker C:I was waiting for scream.
Speaker C:I don't know if I was going to say scream.
Speaker C:I don't know if he has it on that list.
Speaker C:Doug, if.
Speaker C:If you have a list, don't change it for this.
Speaker C:Keep going with what you were planned.
Speaker C:I I was waiting for scream to, like, loosen up.
Speaker A:I remember what you did last summer for me.
Speaker A:It was one of those two.
Speaker A:That's a top one.
Speaker A:Me.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:That's a underrated franchise.
Speaker C:Too underrated.
Speaker C:And so here's my thing.
Speaker C:If it's not scream, I don't want that number one.
Speaker C:But I don't want Halloween at number one if it is scream.
Speaker A:So nothing on this list is number one so far.
Speaker B:You got.
Speaker B:You get to do one swap, Brian.
Speaker C:I guess if we're going to do one swap, I'll put Halloween at number one right now.
Speaker C:I like Jamie Lee Curtis.
Speaker C:Mike Myers doesn't die.
Speaker C:I like it.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:And the last one is going to be the nightmare on elm street movies.
Speaker A:I forgot that I.
Speaker A:Oh, that's a good franchise.
Speaker A:I forgot you said one swap, and I've been swapping this whole time, I guess.
Speaker A:Huh.
Speaker B:This really isn't your genre, so you're fine.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker A:Um, that's actually, that's gonna be number one.
Speaker A:I think that that Freddie.
Speaker A:Freddie, to me, is one of the scariest motherfuckers because, bitch, I'm sleeping.
Speaker A:I have to sleep.
Speaker A:I can.
Speaker A:I can't.
Speaker A:Like, you cannot run from Freddie and you don't know what reality versus what dreamland is.
Speaker A:And so, yeah, I think as a franchise, that is scary.
Speaker A:The only thing I don't like about Freddie was the prequel of, like, them trying to explain or, like, when they tried to reboot the franchise.
Speaker C:You're telling me Freddy versus Jason isn't.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A: And Freddie versus Jason: Speaker A:Or whatever it was when he was on a spaceship.
Speaker A:I thought Freddie versus Jason is funny.
Speaker A:I think it's funny.
Speaker A:And that's the other thing with Freddie.
Speaker A:Like, the nightmare on elm street movies.
Speaker A:Yeah, Freddie is a funny dude.
Speaker A:Like, it makes you laugh after you get over the scary parts of, like, yo, this dude Freddie, when he yanked that girl up through the door window when it was bad, like CGI, like, you could tell it was like a little mannequin or doll or whatever.
Speaker A:It's funny as fuck.
Speaker A:So, yeah, that's number one for.
Speaker B:We will do this again with individual movies.
Speaker B:I think there's something to be said, or that's why this is tough is because the franchise, you have to take the whole breadth of work.
Speaker B:Yeah, say that, like, the very first one where they pull, like, Johnny Depp into the bed and it's just like a fountain of blood, like, healing.
Speaker B:Like, that whole concept is terrifying.
Speaker B:But then, yeah, you got to consider, like, the Freddy versus Jason's or the Jason X's that you have to kind of, like, be like, what the fuck is this?
Speaker B:Like?
Speaker B:And so it's.
Speaker B:It makes it harder, honestly.
Speaker C:That's why I'm okay with Halloween at number one, because Halloween three is, like, the only one that's not really connected to anything.
Speaker C:Everything else follows.
Speaker C:It follows, like, a certain chronic, like, chronology.
Speaker C:That's a good chronology.
Speaker C:And Evil Dead is just so inconsistent as a franchise.
Speaker C:Like, I love Bruce Campbell, but, like, as a franchise, this thing is all over the place.
Speaker C:If you played russian roulette with this, you might get.
Speaker C:You might get just something totally different that you're not in the mood for.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker C:And child's play.
Speaker C:None of those movies.
Speaker C:I saw those at sleepovers.
Speaker C:They never scared me.
Speaker C:I thought they were really dumb.
Speaker C:Like, I'm.
Speaker C:And I can buy into a lot of concepts for movies.
Speaker C:Laser swords, space wizards.
Speaker C:People can't have children anymore.
Speaker C:I can buy into any of that.
Speaker C:You sit me down in front of child's plane like, that doll can't kill anybody.
Speaker C:I'm sorry.
Speaker C:I cannot believe that for a second.
Speaker B:I never understood that.
Speaker B:I never understood.
Speaker B:They're like, okay, I get it if you don't see him coming, but, I mean, right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so you all are going to ask me, like, how I would rank them?
Speaker B:I would rank them like Marcuses.
Speaker A:Don't act like you know us.
Speaker B:I would.
Speaker B:I would rank them like Marcus's, except I would put deep.
Speaker B:I would put.
Speaker B:I would.
Speaker A:It's not that, Brian.
Speaker A:Mess it up.
Speaker A:It was the combination of letters that just made me laugh.
Speaker A:It's like, oh, yeah, for sure.
Speaker C:Sorry, my fingers were shifted over by one on the keyboard.
Speaker B:Brian, what I mean is nightmare and nightmare on Elm Street.
Speaker B:Halloween saw child's play, evil dead.
Speaker B:I put evil Dead last.
Speaker B:Hmm.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:Evil dead's last.
Speaker C:Got it.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:Now.
Speaker B:Now I'm forever deep.
Speaker B:Thanks for that, Brian.
Speaker B:You and your goddamn sausage makers have ruined my reputation.
Speaker C:I can't.
Speaker C:I mean, look, if anyone looks at our group chat, do you know how often I go back like, I got this, Brian?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Brian, you are not the worst.
Speaker A:It's me.
Speaker A:I give no fucks about spelling or grammatical areas in our chair at all.
Speaker A:I'm like, these are two intelligent, straight up.
Speaker A:Just said the wrong name.
Speaker A:And then today I was bragging.
Speaker A:I was telling Doug, like, yeah, I need to get to a, like, Minnesota game.
Speaker A:I hate, hate being, like, besties with Doug because it feels like all my teams are Minnesota teams because, like, that's what it's coming down to right now.
Speaker A:I want Minnesota to win it all because I love that motherfucker ant, bro, that's starting five doc on Netflix, baby.
Speaker B:I didn't want to say anything, but you're like, yeah, I really want to go to a game.
Speaker B:And then you sent me a screenshot of two away games, and I was like, yes, stupid as fuck.
Speaker A:I look for the dude.
Speaker B:I just didn't say anything because I was like, no, correct me.
Speaker A:Don't let me be out here.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good.
Speaker C:I get your list, right?
Speaker C:I get your list.
Speaker B:You got it.
Speaker B:Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween.
Speaker B:So child's play, evil dead.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:The reason why is that the second evil dead borders on comedy.
Speaker C:I agree.
Speaker B:It runs a book because it is very, very silly.
Speaker B:It's creepy, but it's very, very.
Speaker B:The first one is very scary.
Speaker B:The second one is very.
Speaker B:Is sort of like Sam Raimi.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:All his sequels end up more funny than they are the first time around.
Speaker A:Like, dark man.
Speaker C:Look, I appreciate how we all seem to respect saw, but not enjoy the entire body of work, of, like, yeah, this is like, this is scary.
Speaker C:But you got some real mystery is here.
Speaker B:I mean, the reason why saw is starting to get funny because I keep seeing this, like, this again, this fucking short video of, like, what it would be like if he was just the little puppet was at your house, Brian.
Speaker B:It's like, of, you know, okay, great.
Speaker B:I want to take a shower.
Speaker B:He's like, I want to play a game.
Speaker B:Great, I want to take a shower.
Speaker B:Like, yes.
Speaker B:D d pigs out here telling you to do the most and take care of yourself.
Speaker C:Yep, pretty much pretty.
Speaker B:Marcus, you've got a Harry Potter.
Speaker B:Rank them.
Speaker B:Like, let's.
Speaker B:Let's do it.
Speaker A:Actually change my mind.
Speaker A:Okay, we're going to do.
Speaker A:We're going to do an elite eight of which horror.
Speaker A:Which horror character is better?
Speaker A:Because I feel like we discussed a lot on Harry Potter.
Speaker A:I think Doug did a really good job.
Speaker A:We had a really good conversation team.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I'm on the website that's going to give me the heebie jeebies as well as several.
Speaker A:So here we go.
Speaker A:It's an elite eight.
Speaker A:All right, here we go.
Speaker A:Gonna be short.
Speaker A:So Chris Walker versus Freddy Krueger.
Speaker B:Freddy Krueger.
Speaker B:Because I don't know who the first one is.
Speaker C:I'm pretty sure Chris Walker is from a video game I would assume outlast.
Speaker C:I am gonna go Freddy Krueger.
Speaker C:Though.
Speaker B:Chasing you makes it real easy.
Speaker A:Not very familiar with the character Leatherface versus Jason Voorhees.
Speaker A:That's a crazy combo right there, brother.
Speaker A:Now, how do you define your best horror character?
Speaker B:What are you picking by?
Speaker B:I was gonna go by.
Speaker B:I'm gonna go by Leatherface because he is in fact based off of a real person.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker C:Yeah, I'm going Leatherface.
Speaker C:Jason voorhees just feels like death in a hockey mask, which totally works for the movies, but in this.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:Leatherface.
Speaker C:Far more frightening.
Speaker A:Yeah, cuz that's, yeah, you're right.
Speaker A:That's real.
Speaker A:Um, Richard Traeger, which also seems to be from a video game, and Eddie.
Speaker C:Blue skin video game characters.
Speaker A:Both video game characters.
Speaker B:Eddie Glueskin.
Speaker B:Cuz I don't like that bowtie.
Speaker B:I'm game loose kid sounds like he spends a lot of time.
Speaker B:Nefarious website.
Speaker A:Nefarious twins versus Freddy Fazbear.
Speaker A:This is not the best that.
Speaker A:Whoever made this loves video games.
Speaker A:So whatever.
Speaker B:I'm also gonna go Freddie Fazbear and I'm.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's fine.
Speaker C:Yeah, ditto.
Speaker A:All right, man.
Speaker A:Leatherface versus Freddy Krueger.
Speaker A:I'm going.
Speaker B:I'm gonna go letterface.
Speaker B:I'm sticking with that one.
Speaker B:But never mind.
Speaker C:Sorry.
Speaker B:Talked myself into it.
Speaker B:Freddy Krueger.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker A:Okay, Brian.
Speaker C:I'll go leather face because the Texas Chainsaw movies scared me more than the Elm street ones.
Speaker A:The way that the tip.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Texas Chainsaw massacre movie ends with the bullet to the back of the like that's, that's.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Eddie Glueskin or Freddie Fazbear.
Speaker A:I hate this.
Speaker C:I don't know you.
Speaker C:Blue skin.
Speaker C:So Freddie it is.
Speaker B:I will say your name is scarier.
Speaker C:Eddie Glueskin also sounds like a porn star.
Speaker A:Freddy Krueger versus Freddie Fazbear.
Speaker A:Freddie.
Speaker A:Freddie.
Speaker A:Final round.
Speaker B:Freddie.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Freddy.
Speaker C:Link back to Freddie and Leatherbase.
Speaker B:We got so much XP.
Speaker A:I didn't enjoy that at all.
Speaker B:We level up.
Speaker A:No, we did not level only the viruses.
Speaker A:I think the XP is for the viruses that I get from.
Speaker B:I got a plus four sort of slang that I can't use until I'm the next level.
Speaker B:So like you gotta lower sword, but.
Speaker C:It gives you plus two armor.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker B:God damn it.
Speaker B:That's the sword I want.
Speaker B:Um, gentlemen, anything else that you all want to chat about before we sort of close things out?
Speaker A:James Gunn is going to be at Comic Con, and we'll have a panel talking about DC.
Speaker A:I don't have any more information other than that.
Speaker A:Also, um.
Speaker A:Or a different one, I think New York.
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker A:I think it might be New York comic Con.
Speaker A:There's whatever the next major one is.
Speaker A:They'll have a panel about, um, the con, the future commandos, and then some other stuff.
Speaker A:It's rumored they're, like, fast paced or that they were really on really good track with, like, the Superman edits that there could be may or may not be a teaser that comes out.
Speaker A:But they did get their Green Lantern carrot castings in, so that's in pre production.
Speaker A:And then Supergirl the hero tomorrow, or.
Speaker A:I forgot what the official title is.
Speaker A:But that's also in the way.
Speaker A:They also debunked, just real briefly, just because it's my favorite shit.
Speaker A:There was a rumor that they were going to do a middle aged Batman casting for brave and for the brave and the bolt.
Speaker A:And James Gunn basically said, that's bullshit.
Speaker C:Oh, no.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:He said, literally, he said, that's bullshit.
Speaker A:That's not true.
Speaker C:So, yeah, I have James Gunn.
Speaker C:I do have a headline saying, james Gunn will be hosting the DC studios panel at New York Comic Con on October 19.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:All right, so that's next week.
Speaker A:That's next week.
Speaker C:It's this week.
Speaker B:Is this this weekend?
Speaker B:Fuck, yeah.
Speaker B:You're right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Saturday socials will probably be exciting.
Speaker B:It will be very exciting.
Speaker B:I did want to mention one thing before we close out about Venom, the last dance, the director and one of the co writers did an interview with ignore and said that apparently this is not going to be, what?
Speaker B:Null is not the main villain of the film, and it is not the last we will see him.
Speaker B:That this is just merely a teasing that we know in the future.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:I can tell you this.
Speaker B:Sony, if you.
Speaker B:Sony, if you fuck this up, like, that's.
Speaker B:That's a big.
Speaker B:That's a big fuck up, because, again, this is an Avengers level threat that you are just gonna piss away.
Speaker B:So I get it.
Speaker B:And what they said with the direct quote, I'll poke a post, a link in the show notes.
Speaker B:The direct quote is, hey, we.
Speaker B:You know, we know it needs to be done right.
Speaker B:We know fans like it.
Speaker B:We know fans are interested, and we know that you can't just do him with one movie.
Speaker B:So we're gonna give him his space to breathe.
Speaker B:You better or otherwise, this is.
Speaker B:This one's gonna be rough.
Speaker B:Like, you can't sabotage.
Speaker C:I'm gonna read this direct quote so we can all groan in it.
Speaker C:The film introduces Null, but it just touches the beginnings of this story.
Speaker C:Marcel added.
Speaker C:Marvel's greatest film villains are developed over time here.
Speaker C:Null is a threat lurking behind, the danger that tests the absolute limits of Eddie and Venom's partnership.
Speaker C:But it's their relationship that remains the heart of the story.
Speaker C:That's from the IGN article.
Speaker A:What the fuck does that mean?
Speaker C:It means.
Speaker C:It means they want to tease.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:So that they end this movie.
Speaker C:And you're like, oh, my gosh, it's null.
Speaker C:What's gonna happen?
Speaker A:Well, he goes over and fucks with Tom Holland.
Speaker A:And that's how Tom Holland gets a symbiote to.
Speaker A:I mean, because you have.
Speaker A:You don't have a spider man.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:This is a Spiderman less universe with.
Speaker A:A symbiote running around and there's not a heat, not another hero in sight in this Sony universe.
Speaker C:No, man, I honestly, it'll never.
Speaker C:It'll never not fascinate me.
Speaker C:I will read this book, by the way, when someone.
Speaker C:When someone stuff because, like, you so much money and you wanted to spin out a series without Spider man at that point, get you locked down, Tom Hardy, and you just, like, you look him in the eye and you're like, look, you're gonna be this black goo guy for ten years and you're gonna like it.
Speaker C:And you just.
Speaker C:You put him in everything.
Speaker C:He's in Morbi, he's in Madam Webb, he's in whatever.
Speaker C:Like, it'll never.
Speaker C:It'll never not fascinate me because, like, he's done now, but you're like, oh, but null's coming.
Speaker C:And it's like, my mom.
Speaker C:My mom watches these movies.
Speaker C:She's not gonna care.
Speaker C:She's not gonna care about null.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:Like, you waited too long.
Speaker C:Like, you waited too long.
Speaker C:Tom Hardy's gone.
Speaker C:I like.
Speaker C:And if they cross over with MCU, I'll be impressed, but I'm not expecting it.
Speaker B:No, I know they're not gonna do that.
Speaker B:And then also, I mean, how long does.
Speaker C:How.
Speaker B:I mean, yeah, you're right.
Speaker B:I don't have anything else.
Speaker B:I'm just frustrated.
Speaker B:I'm just frustrated and have no words for my frustration.
Speaker B:Um, yeah, well, there was your quick news.
Speaker B:We did a quick news.
Speaker B:Brian, you got any quick news?
Speaker C:I have, like, I am a glutton for punishment and I can tell you that Joker two suffered a historic drop at the box office.
Speaker C:What?
Speaker B:Brian?
Speaker C:Folks, it appears that Joker two only earned $7 million this previous weekend, which is an 81% drop from the previous weekend.
Speaker C:So they are.
Speaker C:People are dropping that like a hot stone.
Speaker C:Anyway, wild robot doing very well at the box office.
Speaker A:And a secret plan for a wild robot was.
Speaker C:Did I miss that?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Somebody.
Speaker A:I forgot who announced it.
Speaker B:It's an outstanding movie.
Speaker B:It's an outstanding movie.
Speaker A:I need to go.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker C:Oh.
Speaker C:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker C:The wild robot sequels in the works.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:It's happening according to Deadline.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:Amazing.
Speaker C:That's wonderful.
Speaker C:100 million mark this weekend.
Speaker C:Good for them.
Speaker B:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:So let's do this.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:What's going on?
Speaker B:A high note, gentlemen.
Speaker B:What do you guys have to plug this week?
Speaker C:Hey, folks, I'm here to talk to you about the love nerds.
Speaker C:Go to the love nerds.com.
Speaker C:you can go see my wife's lifestyle blog there.
Speaker C:You can also go check out her Etsy store.
Speaker C:That's where she's updating the most right now.
Speaker C:Go to etsy.com shop slash the love nerds and you can go check out everything she has for sale on her etsy storefront.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Love it.
Speaker C:Lovely.
Speaker A:Love it.
Speaker A:You want to make sure that you follow the mantra, never offended, always humble.
Speaker A:Guess what?
Speaker A:Surprise.
Speaker A:Soul ties dropping some music.
Speaker A:So I'm going to tease it right here on this episode.
Speaker A:Hopefully it'll play.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, it should.
Speaker A:This is soul tie notice.
Speaker A:We'll be dropping on Wednesday.
Speaker A:So by the time you hear this, it's going to be a pretty fire Wednesday for you.
Speaker A:He was just in his country bag.
Speaker A:We're fooling you.
Speaker A:And this is.
Speaker A:Sorry, no response.
Speaker A:But, you know, my feet say what's to your home?
Speaker A:So, yeah, that's soul tie.
Speaker A:We'll be playing that lightly in the background for y'all, but notice will be out.
Speaker A:But follow the mantra, never offended, always humble, baby.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:I want to plug this podcast.
Speaker B:Hey, y'all, we're powered by a not AI now.
Speaker B:So if you are enjoying our podcast, just know that in the background, AI is a lot of it.
Speaker C:Context.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:What a fuck.
Speaker A:Would you say that?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker B:We have smart people who listen and watch.
Speaker B:We don't need to provide any.
Speaker B:No, but AI is helping us do some of the social stuff, so we're excited about that.
Speaker B:You'll see more social stuff.
Speaker A:Can you say the real name, not just AI?
Speaker A:Like, it's the fucking I robot with Will Smith.
Speaker A:Can you say the name of the program?
Speaker B:I don't remember it.
Speaker B:So that's why I can't say it's.
Speaker A:Opus is going to help get more clips out over socials.
Speaker A:It will be helping us to get our name and our brand out there on TikTok, on Instagram, on Facebook.
Speaker A:So you'll be seeing more clips with the help of Opus and using AI tools responsibly.
Speaker A:Here it's at films in black and white.
Speaker B:I will say this, Marcus told me the name of this platform twelve times.
Speaker B:I could be like, every single time I had to be kept going.
Speaker B:So part of me wants to be like, every time we talk about it in public, I want to go, Marcus, what's the name of that again?
Speaker A:Just like, it's like.
Speaker A:No, not with an Opus, with an.
Speaker B:E.
Speaker B:Okay, got it.
Speaker B:Opus with the knee.
Speaker B:So that's what we're using.
Speaker B:No, but in all honesty, if you like the stuff you're seeing on our socials, give them a like and a follow.
Speaker B:And if you are enjoying the podcast, share us with a friend or a family member.
Speaker B:That is the best way for us to grow and to get better.
Speaker B:And if you're feeling generous, go over to patreon.com films in blackandwhite.
Speaker B:Sign up for one of our tiers there.
Speaker B:We are gonna be doing a patty family pics movie here in the coming weeks over there, but yeah, check it out.
Speaker B:Would love to have the support.
Speaker B:Helps us do a lot of the stuff we love to do.
Speaker B:But gentlemen, we have a three step process to success.
Speaker B:Um, Marcus.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:No, Brian, what is that?
Speaker C:First, hi.
Speaker C:I'm here to tell you to read a book.
Speaker C:Read a book.
Speaker C:Go places.
Speaker C:Go places you haven't been before.
Speaker C:Read a book.
Speaker B:We talked about a book for like 30 minutes.
Speaker C:Yeah, based on books.
Speaker B:It was a podcast episode, was book powered, so, yeah, read one.
Speaker B:Marcuse.
Speaker B:Second step, sir.
Speaker A:Make sure you drink some water.
Speaker A:It's getting cold outside, people are getting ashy.
Speaker A:The wind is coming and snatching the moisture off your elbows, fingers.
Speaker A:So make sure that you drink some water.
Speaker A:Stay moisturized.
Speaker A:Teach yourself to the nice stuff from time to time, but drink some water, baby.
Speaker B:I brought, I bought, I broke.
Speaker B:Broke out the Palmer's this week, baby.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Cocoa butter dream is back in and live and living color in my house for that third step.
Speaker B:Look, you're.
Speaker B:If you're feeling like in addition to maybe being ashy and having some troubles with the elbows or the wrists or the knees, just give you their ass.
Speaker B:Some extra special love.
Speaker B:Wash it.
Speaker B:Just put a, put some soap on a rope or on a washcloth and just get up in it because it is absolutely important to do so.
Speaker B:Take it from your man D pig.
Speaker B:Take care of your ass.
Speaker B:It'll take care of you for you.
Speaker B:Step four is don't let Brian type your name on the live broadcast cuz.
Speaker A:He'S now deep big forever.
Speaker B:I'm now deep big.
Speaker C:Nobody saw it like we did.
Speaker A:It was a combinational, it was a perfect combination of letters to make out something.
Speaker B:So yeah, it was perfect.
Speaker B:Hey, we are gonna be back next week with another outstanding episode of the podcast.
Speaker B:But in the meantime and in the between time, stay safe, stay healthy.
Speaker B:We'd love y'all.
Speaker B:We appreciate y'all.
Speaker B:We will catch y'all next week.
Speaker A:Bring anything back.
Speaker A:I'm just looking for a customer.
Speaker A:I'm a kidde.
