Episode 20

X-Men '97 Review aka "Tip of the Hate"

Published on: 22nd May, 2024

Back your bags, because we are heading for Asteroid M! We reviewed the series X-Men '97, now streaming on Disney+. But first we play a game of Catch That Quotable. Bryan talks to us about the latest and doomed innovation in AI.

Finally, we talk all things X-Men. We discuss where this show ranks in terms of our favorite shows, and what made it so good. We discuss our favorite moments as well as our speculation for next season.

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Transcript
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We're not live yet.

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Now you are.

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I thought we'd get to meet my X-Men.

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No, we did.

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We did.

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It just was delayed.

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It was delayed.

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Sorry about that.

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I'm still fueled by the ones that slumber,

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that stand out amongst the

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one hit wonders.

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So when the dust settles and

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the sun is under the horizon,

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y'all should run the numbers.

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Uh, who the f*** won't work with me?

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Heart is out and I say that reluctantly.

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Cause it should go without saying,

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but y'all playing dumb.

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Welcome to Films of Black and White,

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everybody!

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Alright, alright, alright.

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How are you all feeling?

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It is an outstanding Monday

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to be with you all.

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Y'all, we're gonna talk a little X-Men 97.

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We are going to talk

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superpowers and animation,

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and it's just going to be good,

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good stuff.

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So super excited to get into

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that with my guys.

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Maybe there might be some other stuff,

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but y'all,

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that's what this is going to be.

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So Brian's going to do it,

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but I'm going to do it too.

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Spoiler warning.

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If you're one of those folks who's like,

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hey,

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I'm going to wait until all of X-Men

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97 is out.

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Wait no longer because it is

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out and we are going to spoil it.

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So put a pin in it here

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before we really get into

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the deets because we're

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probably going to spoil some stuff.

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But in order to do it well, Brian.

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sorry yeah brian in order to

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do it well rogue holding

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cap shield brian roush how

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you feeling I'm feeling

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good to talk about x-men 97

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I we we watched this finale

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like last like multiple

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days ago so I'm very pumped

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to talk about this on the

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pod I feel like we've

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We've saved a lot of this energy.

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We could have done a week by week thing,

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but like I'm really happy.

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We're just going to talk

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about it as like one big chunk,

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especially because I'm

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pretty high on this.

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I feel like I have not been

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having that as a secret.

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I've not been quiet about that.

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So very excited to talk about it.

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And yeah, just happy to be with my guys.

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I'm happy to be with my guys

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and talk about X-Men.

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Like it's going to be a great night.

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It's going to be a great night.

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Yeah, it's going to be absolutely great.

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And Brian,

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you had a photo finish with

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bedtime as I had a photo finish.

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And so I'd like to.

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And as we said before we started the live,

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when everyone to understand

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that being an adult is both

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a lie and a con.

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Yes, everyone.

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Yes, that was a racket.

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It's a racket.

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So, yeah, that was our pre pro.

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Did we talk about the show?

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Absolutely not.

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We talked about adulthood.

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Why would we talk about

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transitions and what we're

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going to cover when we could really,

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really get into the facts

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of how we've achieved.

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Why would we do that?

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If we had a producer,

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they'd be yelling at us.

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It's fine.

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Can you talk about the show?

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No.

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Can you please plug the socials, please?

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Not now.

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We're talking about all this shit today.

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You know what, fictional producer Gina,

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I want to talk about how

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it's great and just why I'm

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wildly unprepared to be an adult.

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That's why fictional producer Gina.

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Take it away, Doug.

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Sorry.

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Absolutely.

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Marcus J. Destin, everything feels lusty.

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How are you feeling, sir?

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Feeling good.

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I'm in the same feelings of my guys.

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Just happy to be here.

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Happy to be with my guys in

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this safe space.

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Happy to talk.

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X-Men 97,

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I had a couple rants I need to go on.

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Prior to X-Men 97.

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Yeah, do it.

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Maybe not a couple.

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Maybe it's really just one.

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So I'll get to that when we get to it.

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But just happy to be here.

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Ready to rock with my guys.

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But Doug, bring your ass, Wagner.

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How are you feeling?

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I'm feeling great.

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I had a really good weekend.

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So we had a dance recital for Harper.

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So she did two shows on

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Saturday and Sunday.

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She did quite well.

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Yes, it was with Votto.

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Good.

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And I've realized and come

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to the conclusion that I

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don't understand tap dance

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just as an art form.

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I don't understand.

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I don't get it.

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Like, I don't, you know, ballet.

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Get it.

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like all the other dances I get,

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but if someone's like, Hey,

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do you understand why tap is a thing?

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No, I don't.

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I don't get it.

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I don't understand it.

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I don't understand it when

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there's music playing, like it just,

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it throws me off.

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So that was the realization that I had.

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And that's what I have.

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And I've learned that about myself.

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And now all you know about that,

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know that about me too.

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And more importantly, closer to you,

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the Timberwolves one.

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Game 7.

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The first time in 20 years.

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So very excited about that.

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That is actually where my AKA comes from.

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There was an interview with

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Anthony Edwards right after.

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And Charles Barkley goes,

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I haven't been to Minnesota in a while.

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And he just stops and he just goes,

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bring your ass.

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I wanted that injected into my veins.

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Because it wasn't like a...

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He's like, what?

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Bring your ass.

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That's all it said.

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And this was on live TV.

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This was on TNT.

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So it was in...

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incredible they cannot lose

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inside the nba like they

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cannot like they're selling

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I think they'll sell it or

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tnt tnt basketball is no

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longer going to be a thing

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or whatever the deal is

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yeah I saw that and they're

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they're walking around

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they're trying to ship it

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where they're trying to

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pitch it to other you know

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um charles barton and chad

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are trying to pitch it to

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other stations but man

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that's a that shows a fucking gym man

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yeah yeah I love their I

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love their analysis I love

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their takes like it's good

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conversation and so yeah

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it's been it's been fun to

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watch it was amazing too

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because in the post game

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anthony edwards when they

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went I just you know

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they're like how do you do

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it ant man he's just like

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you know I just I want to

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kill everything in front of

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me and I'm just like this

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guy has no he has a filter

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but he knows exactly how

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far he can take it and I

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appreciate that like the

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main thing that came from him was

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I just want to kill

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everything in front of me.

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That's legendary.

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That's incredible.

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Just keep saying stuff, man.

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Bring your own.

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everything in front of you

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you usually get a guy like

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that in like bigger places

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like okay the bay or the

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lakers or chicago like you

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know what I mean right in

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chicago that's the

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comparison that they always

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compare him to is michael

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jordan oh yeah like to see

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that energy in minnesota

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and it's coming from him

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and the thing is he's doing

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it because that energy is

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like it's working

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Like whatever it is,

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his team on board to like, I'm,

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I'm 1000% down after the game six,

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he was like, or after game five,

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I forgot which one of game six.

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He was like, Oh, he told the people in the,

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in the, in the locker room,

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I'm gonna see y'all

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motherfuckers for game seven.

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Don't worry.

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Like, yeah, that was incredible.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I'm going to be in Minneapolis next week.

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And so it is very possible.

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I'm up there in that energy.

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Wow.

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See what happens.

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I'm going to have to, I'm going to have to,

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I told Brittany,

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cause when they won last night,

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I looked at Brit.

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I'm like, I'm being Minneapolis next week.

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She's like,

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do you know how expensive that

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ticket's going to be?

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And I was like,

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yes yes I do I said maybe

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I'll just wait till last

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minute and someone's trying

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to offload it or there's

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like one up in the nose

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bleeds like we'll we'll see

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what happens I will report

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live from that beat if I am

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if I am there as you should

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yeah this is this is uh

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this is a uh a movie

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podcast not a basketball

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podcast oh right tell folks

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how they can stay in touch with us

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Hey folks, I'm Brian Rauch,

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And again, spoiler warning.

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I know I have,

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I know I have a social media

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acquaintance that was like,

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I'm not watching this until

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it all comes out.

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So that's you.

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We're spoiling everything.

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We're going to talk about

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everything from Jubilee to Wolverine.

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So I just, I can't,

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I couldn't think of another,

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a apocalypse to Wolverine.

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I can think of a Z, but, but yes, so we're,

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we're getting into all of X-Men 97.

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There you go.

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And disc track loading has

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things to do and places to

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go and people to see tonight,

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so I guess we won't waste any time.

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We won't pussyfoot around it.

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We won't dance around it.

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We won't prolong the inevitable.

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We won't wait a single moment more.

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Absolutely not.

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We have a game we like to

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call Catch That Quotable.

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Catch That Quotable!

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Catch That Quotable!

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The rushed sounds of Marcus.

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I was laughing because he was like,

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we're not going to hesitate any longer.

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Oh, no, I was going to keep going.

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And then you stalled out.

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No, you froze.

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Oh, I did?

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It was perfect timing.

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Fucking better.

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I love every minute.

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We have patched that.

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Quotable.

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All right, gentlemen,

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are you ready for this week's quote?

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Ready.

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Hit me.

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Hit me.

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Hit me.

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Here we go.

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Whether you end up in heaven

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or hell isn't God's plan.

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It's your own.

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You just have to remember what it is.

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Whether you end up in heaven

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or hell isn't God's plan.

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It's your own.

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You just have to remember what it is.

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I just remember what it is.

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I think you have to remember

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what your plan is.

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It's not God's plan because

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it's your plan.

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The only movie that this

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feels like it could be...

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Do you all remember that

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movie What Dreams May Come

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with Robin Williams?

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Yes.

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That's a good guess.

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That feels like this could

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be in that same sphere, that same arena,

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but I am not 100% on that at all.

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I was thinking the one with Keanu Reeves.

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Oh, a little bit too heavy.

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There was a devil's advocate.

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There was a devil's assistant.

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Devil's advocate.

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Devil's advocate.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's with that's with Keanu Reeves.

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And then an Al Pacino is the devil.

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I feel like.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's a movie I haven't

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seen in a long time,

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but I would love to rewatch.

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Yeah, it's heavy.

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Yes, very, very, very much so.

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Yeah, it gets sad.

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Yeah, it does.

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It does get sad.

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Yeah, that's the time.

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And we're a little cold, so that's time.

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And he doesn't want to be in the doghouse,

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so, you know, it's a kid's bedtime.

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Oh, I get it.

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I get it.

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I mean, that sounds like a hidden problem.

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Hey, if you're a Patreon member,

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you can do that.

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You're like, what an asshole I am.

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That sounds like a him problem.

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Need I remind you I was in a

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car for eight hours?

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That's all right.

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Yep, there it is.

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Yep, that's the full circle moment.

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Brian, go ahead.

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No,

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I'm going to go devil's advocate for my

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guess.

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I know that that's wrong

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because that dialogue is a

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little bit too light for that movie,

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but that's going to be my guess.

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All right.

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I'm going to go the late part.

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No, don't stop.

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No, don't.

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You don't want me to stop?

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Brian, you went a romantic comedy?

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You went a romantic comedy

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with Keanu Reeves?

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Is this movie about God?

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No,

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it's technically I don't consider a

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romantic comedy.

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Just to put it out there.

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Have you all seen that movie?

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Yes.

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Okay, spoiler alert.

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Keanu Reeves gets smashed by a bus.

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That dude dies.

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I did not know that.

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Yeah, Sandra Bullock's eating her sandwich,

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and in the background is his character.

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He just gets smacked, run over by Buzz.

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Can I just say... All right,

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I'm going to say it after

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we do our guesses.

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I'm going to say what was

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really funny about that exchange.

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I can tell you what's really funny.

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It's my goddamn internet.

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That's what's making this so much worse.

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But it was like Brian was talking...

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And Doug freezes out.

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But then he comes back and he says, no, no,

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no.

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Don't stop.

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Don't stop.

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Keep going.

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And Brandon's like,

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you don't want me to stop?

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You don't want me to stop?

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That's fucking hilarious.

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Gentlemen, we are way off.

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I don't know what this is.

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It's Cowboys and Aliens from 2011.

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What?

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That profound dialogue came

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from Cowboys vs. Aliens.

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Daniel Craig, Harrison Ford, and...

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Olivia.

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Olivia Munn.

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No, no, that's not Olivia Munn.

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It's the other one.

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It's the other one that

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everybody confuses Olivia Munn with.

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Oh my gosh.

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We're never going to get her

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on the show now.

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She's screaming at us here.

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Go ahead.

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That's fine.

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It's not Olivia.

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It's not Olivia.

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Olivia Wilde.

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There it is.

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It's Olivia, but it's Olivia Wilde,

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not Olivia Wilde.

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By the way, on IMDb, when I type in Olivia,

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she comes up as third,

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and then Tron Legacy is her main movie,

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which is just so funny to me.

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She's in so many other things,

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and she's directed, but it's like, no, no,

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no, no, no.

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Tron Legacy, check this out.

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Let her know.

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Let her know what we think of her.

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Like...

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What we attach you to forever.

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Man.

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I'd love to talk to Olivia

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Wilde and be like,

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how do you feel about IMDb

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having the first movie

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you're known for as Tron Legacy?

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I want to talk to any real, any actor,

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person who acts actress.

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I want to see what they feel

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about IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes, like,

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unfiltered.

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Like, tell them nobody,

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this will never air.

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I just want to know what they think.

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Because, like, movies like Garfield,

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Garfield's Rotten Tomatoes

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score came out today at, like, 55%.

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Oh, did it really?

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Yeah.

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So I'm like, well, goddamn,

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that's not fantastic.

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But it seemed like they'd do that,

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and then it creeps back up for them.

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incredible remember rotten

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tomatoes much like adult

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life is corrupt and it's a

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racket like it's it's

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basically that the way it's

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a racket it's a racket it

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is a racket everybody's

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doing spice over there no

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don't trust a single review

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because basically what

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they're doing is they're

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sucking down sandworm juice

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and then being like I loved it and that's

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not helpful to anyone plot

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the dune so rotten tomatoes

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and dune have the same plot

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in life yes well and the

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funny part is imdb is all

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user run too so like I mean

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they can the the actors and

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actresses they can upload

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stuff but like all that

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information is user

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generated so like you could

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go to your page and be like

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I don't want to be known

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for drawn legacy please

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stop like I want to

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remember and remember

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rotten tomatoes is run

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exclusively by the benedict

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like that is just how it

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works over there they run

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all of that over there

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What's Amazon then?

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If they're the Bene Gesserit,

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are they the Harkonnens?

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The Harkonnens run IMDb then?

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I don't even know.

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You look at Jeff Bezos and

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tell me he's not a Harkonnen.

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He does have no hair.

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That man is listening to

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throat music while he's

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rolling in a pile of money.

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Wow, we just figured that out.

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We just figured out the

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monopoly in the world through Dune.

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Using Dune references?

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If you were confused, now you get it.

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You're welcome.

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And we did some throat singing.

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I mean,

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this episode's off to a great start.

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Guys, this episode has it all.

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Tell us, Villabean,

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is that what you call him?

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Roman, Patreon member, we are trying.

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I promise.

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We are trying to raise money

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for our next non-profit.

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Oh, that brings me to my rant.

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Oh, please.

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Oh, he's got the double clear.

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Diddy.

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Oh, God.

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What?

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Diddy.

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P. Diddy.

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Diddy.

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Or whatever your mama named you.

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Sean Combs, if you will.

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Sean Combs.

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You're a piece of shit.

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Indeed you are.

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And I am going to pull my

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third heat card as a

::

stakeholder in the podcast and say,

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the next $100 that we get from the pot,

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we are going to match it,

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match the donation,

::

and it's going to go to a

::

domestic violence initiative.

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Because we don't tolerate that.

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piece of shit.

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You're an asshole and you

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are little dick energy.

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I don't give a fuck how rich you are.

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You are a bitch.

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You are the scum of the

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fucking earth to put your

::

hands on a woman and to

::

make your fake ass apology

::

video about how you was in a dark space.

::

Listen,

::

ain't that much grace in the

::

fucking world.

::

You put that woman through

::

hell and probably other

::

people too and only

::

apologize because you got caught.

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You are a piece of shit.

::

And so that's that.

::

That is a full-throated endorsement.

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I agree with you, Marcus.

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100%.

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I have no notes.

::

You nailed it.

::

that video was very when it

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was released by cnn one I'm

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a little shocked at cnn to

::

be honest with you like

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that was rough like even

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for cnn like that was that

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was rough for them to like

::

be like we got it like are

::

you tmz or like trying to

::

actually report the news I

::

mean um well I fixed my mic

::

should I say it again no no

::

we heard you you're good yeah I mean yeah

::

well maggie was the one that

::

actually like showed it to

::

me it was like one of those

::

moments where she's like

::

you you won't believe this

::

you won't believe what I'm

::

what I'm seeing right now

::

and I was like oh like it

::

can't like you know my head

::

I was like cnn like they

::

don't show a whole lot and

::

then I was like nope that's

::

a full video of terrible

::

violence so I'm four

::

fucking k you ass yeah

::

Like, 4K.

::

And you paid the hotel to

::

get rid of the evidence.

::

Like,

::

you paid them $50,000 to get rid of it,

::

and it still came back out.

::

And, like, you are just... Like,

::

I'm pray for Cassie.

::

Like,

::

I'm so glad that she found somebody

::

else who was, like,

::

willing to really love her.

::

But, dog, you gotta go down.

::

I also...

::

I also want to take this

::

moment where there's a lot of time,

::

and I promise this is going to connect,

::

but a lot of violence

::

survivors and domestic violence survivors,

::

when it comes to these

::

folks who are in rich, powerful,

::

privileged positions,

::

you'll see a lot of

::

headlines that they've settled.

::

And a lot of people really like to say,

::

well, they settled.

::

If something was really wrong,

::

the court would have found it.

::

And it's like,

::

you watch that video and

::

this person having violence

::

enacted on them,

::

what do you think's going

::

through their head?

::

Like,

::

do you think they're actually going

::

to win against someone like Diddy,

::

who at that point was

::

pretty much a kingmaker?

::

Or are you just going to

::

just want to move on with

::

your life after something

::

like that happens to you?

::

And that person's settled,

::

if I remember that story correctly.

::

So, like, this is why.

::

Because people want to be

::

done with this episode of

::

their life and move on.

::

So, my thoughts are with the survivor, too,

::

because all this is coming

::

back up and everybody's seeing it.

::

Oh, yeah.

::

And you put a...

::

He put a fucking... Rumor has it,

::

or allegedly, somebody tried to help her,

::

or Kid Cudi tried to help her,

::

and he put a fucking bomb in the car.

::

And that's straight from Kid Cudi.

::

What?

::

That's part of the stories

::

that are going around after

::

he was raided of...

::

It was said that I could be

::

getting this story wrong,

::

and I apologize if I am,

::

but from my remembrance,

::

Kid Cudi said that he tried

::

to help Cassie to some

::

capacity or tried to advocate for her,

::

whatever the case may be,

::

and Diddy essentially put a

::

bomb in this motherfucker's

::

car or tried to blow his car up.

::

Oh my God.

::

Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong,

::

because I don't want to be

::

spewing the wrong information,

::

but this is all that's been coming out,

::

stuff that has been coming out.

::

He's a piece of shit.

::

That's the bottom line.

::

Yeah.

::

Um, and so here's the other thing,

::

like if you or someone, you know,

::

is currently in a domestic

::

violence situation,

::

we're going to post the

::

number for the national

::

domestic violence hotline.

::

So like you can get in touch

::

with somebody to get help.

::

You can also text them at eight, eight,

::

seven, eight,

::

eight right now if you need to.

::

So I think we're going to

::

post that resource in the

::

show notes and the episode description.

::

Um,

::

Um,

::

so you all have access to that because

::

again, you know,

::

we want everyone to get safe.

::

And again,

::

I prayers for Cassie and so

::

thankful that she's at,

::

but hopefully she's able to

::

make it through having to

::

relive this again.

::

But, you know, if you know somebody,

::

you know,

::

you can help them by just

::

calling or even if you're

::

in that situation, call yourself.

::

So, yeah.

::

And I do I do want to I do

::

want to back up Marcus here.

::

I mean, this was November 2023,

::

where there were there were

::

two confirmations that that

::

Kid Cudi's car did explode.

::

And there are two eyewitness

::

accounts saying that it happened.

::

So like it.

::

Oh, that's that's that's unreal.

::

That's from complex dot com

::

that I'm reading this.

::

That is mafia.

::

That's unreal.

::

I didn't I did not know that.

::

You're a nasty dog.

::

But this is a movie podcast,

::

and that does not digress

::

from what the fuck I said previously,

::

and that's Marcus J. Destin.

::

I stand by everything I said.

::

You put your hands on somebody,

::

you deserve to get your ass

::

dog fucking once.

::

Yeah.

::

But this is a movie podcast,

::

and we're here to talk X-Men.

::

So, sorry,

::

I should have put a trigger

::

warning ahead of that.

::

I do apologize for those that needed that,

::

but

::

No,

::

and I hope they throw his ass

::

underneath the jail.

::

That's where he needs to go.

::

But,

::

so we're going to pivot over back into

::

X-Men and into the content

::

that we're going to talk about today.

::

Oh, I had one more thing.

::

Please, Marcus.

::

Brian and I were speaking.

::

This is not as heavy.

::

We were talking in pre-pro,

::

and we didn't know if you knew this.

::

Shut up.

::

Me and Brian were talking.

::

We love you too.

::

I did want to say this.

::

I'll tell you this.

::

Brian knows this.

::

Doug is such a good friend.

::

You just have to say that

::

out loud because you don't

::

run into many good friends

::

and good people anymore in the world.

::

I did just want to say that

::

on our podcast that Doug is

::

just a really good friend.

::

I hope that all what you put

::

out there is super

::

reciprocated because he is

::

really just a good... He

::

will get on your ass,

::

But he is a really good friend.

::

Brian is also a great friend.

::

My long-distance bestie.

::

You know what I mean?

::

We be rocking.

::

But I did just want to say that.

::

Anyway, we were talking on the pod, right?

::

In pre-pro.

::

And we were talking about

::

Scarlett Johansson and

::

ChatGPT going into a battle

::

because ChatGPT was going

::

to just use... They had a

::

meeting set up with her.

::

Tried to get her to agree to

::

use her voice for ChatGPT.

::

to like kind of resemble the

::

movie her like how she used

::

her voice in that movie oh

::

okay I don't like that and

::

they essentially were gonna

::

she said no and they were

::

gonna do it anyway so she

::

lawyer the fuck up

::

Oh my god.

::

So we saw that,

::

maybe Brian said he saw it

::

45 minutes ago when I asked him.

::

I literally saw it 10

::

minutes before I logged on.

::

I just wanted to see, Doug,

::

if you knew anything about this.

::

Absolutely not.

::

This is insane.

::

This is the craziest thing

::

I've ever heard in my life.

::

Oh my gosh.

::

I'm so excited to tell you about this.

::

Tell me about it.

::

Do you know about Sky,

::

the chat GPT for voice assisted?

::

No.

::

no oh my gosh okay so all

::

right I'm gonna close brian

::

brian's about to tell me

::

brian said you don't like

::

with the level of

::

excitement that someone had

::

never heard about the movie

::

kingpin before like you've

::

never seen that let me tell

::

you why it's hilarious okay

::

So essentially,

::

ChatGPT released this demo.

::

It's called ChatGPT 4.0 Voice,

::

essentially.

::

It's the voice component for ChatGPT.

::

And essentially,

::

you can just have a conversation with it.

::

Oh, fun.

::

And they just released it last week.

::

They've now suspended it.

::

because it sounded like

::

scarlett johansson now um

::

but you can just have these

::

conversations with chat gpt

::

like hey I'm looking for

::

movie times can you reserve

::

tickets and all this stuff

::

one of the examples they

::

had was like hey chat gp or

::

hey sky what's what room am

::

I in what do you think I'm

::

doing um like that that

::

type of stuff right like

::

already red flags going up

::

I don't like that

::

for anybody that has watched

::

for anyone that has watched

::

any sci-fi movie and I'm

::

not even talking about like

::

Blade Runner I'm like

::

literally even Star Wars

::

like it's just it's so

::

clear it's a bad idea but

::

there's a distinct level of

::

the population

::

let's say 13% that are going

::

to try to do wholesome shit with this.

::

For sure.

::

The remaining 87%,

::

the remaining ever 87% will

::

eventually just do gross stuff with this.

::

He's got zero faith in humanity.

::

I said, I said,

::

eventually they might start off with like,

::

Oh, I can ask it movie times, but then,

::

uh,

::

so his girlfriend will step

::

out for a night out like on

::

a Thursday and he'll be

::

like I wonder what else I

::

could do with it Brian keep

::

going please no so I'm so

::

for our listeners if you're

::

like okay like what is

::

Scarlett Johansson so upset

::

about like I don't get it

::

so essentially like open AI contacted her

::

legit contacted her and was

::

like hey do you do you want

::

to be the voice for this

::

and she promptly said

::

absolutely not um and so

::

I'm gonna play what this

::

sounds like so you can hear

::

it listeners okay um I'm

::

gonna make sure I'm sharing

::

sound we're gonna find out

::

if I'm doing that hey we'll figure it out

::

Yeah,

::

and essentially you can be the judge

::

is what I'm trying to say here.

::

You can be the judge.

::

You can see if this sounds

::

like Scarlett Johansson.

::

So we'll play like 30 seconds of it.

::

Look at this generic frat boy.

::

Yeah, he's doing gross shit with it.

::

How about you?

::

I see you're rocking an open AI hoodie.

::

Nice chilies.

::

What's up with that ceiling about?

::

Are you in a cool industry

::

style office or something?

::

Well,

::

can you take a guess at what I might

::

be doing based on what I'm

::

showing you here?

::

no no no no it looks like

::

you're in some kind of

::

recording or production

::

setup with those lights

::

tripods and possibly a mic

::

it seems like you might be

::

gearing up to shoot a video

::

or I'll end it there I'll

::

end it there doug looks so uncomfortable

::

Immediately?

::

Nope.

::

Just noping out of it.

::

What do you think I'm trying

::

to do with what I'm showing

::

you right now?

::

She needs to have an immediate yuck.

::

I don't want to tell you

::

that sounds like your business.

::

There needs to be a chief response.

::

I'm so upset.

::

Okay, stop.

::

I'm very sad that Scarlett

::

Johansson is clearly getting ripped off.

::

Do you think that sounds like her?

::

I think so.

::

It does sound like her.

::

It's the inflection in her voice.

::

That's a good point.

::

I see her rocking that OpenAI hoodie.

::

Very nice.

::

The way she says that is spot on.

::

And so...

::

Yeah, that's eerily close.

::

I didn't see the video.

::

It's close enough.

::

I didn't see the video.

::

And me hearing that for the first time,

::

that's exactly how she talks in the movie,

::

her.

::

And I see exactly what they

::

were trying to go.

::

I mean, that's just Scarlett Johansson.

::

You know what I mean?

::

Yeah.

::

Like, roll she's in.

::

Hey, big guy.

::

Sun's coming down low.

::

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

::

You know?

::

Yep.

::

I mean,

::

would I enjoy having a Scarlett

::

Johansson-inspired voice assistant?

::

Maybe, but it is... You're right,

::

it does have that same

::

cadence and tone of her voice,

::

even if it doesn't have the

::

same energy behind it.

::

I don't know if any of that's making sense,

::

but I think basically the

::

New York Times article...

::

calls out the fact that like,

::

and this is from Scarlett

::

Johansson's statement, but like open AI,

::

like they shot themselves in the foot.

::

They have paperwork asking her to do this.

::

And then they make an

::

assistant like her voice.

::

And the best part is they

::

reached out to her two days

::

before this video came out being like,

::

are you sure you don't want to?

::

Are you sure?

::

There's plenty enough here

::

for a settlement.

::

As Marcus and I were talking about,

::

Scarlett Johansson,

::

not someone I want to get

::

in a legal fight with.

::

She went toe-to-toe with Disney.

::

Ten toes deep.

::

Nope.

::

I don't want to do that.

::

If anybody's going to lawyer up,

::

she's going to lawyer up.

::

And they owe her a movie.

::

That's the bottom line.

::

Disney now owes her a fucking movie.

::

She got money from Disney.

::

You think anybody can do that?

::

I'm not messing with Scarlett Johansson.

::

We watched that motherfucker,

::

that little Napoleon

::

Dynamite motherfucker in

::

Florida try to go toe-to-toe with Disney,

::

and he fucking lost.

::

He lost everything.

::

Ron DeSanti, he lost every fucking thing.

::

This is not Ron DeSanti.

::

This is goddamn Scarlett Johansson.

::

You're right.

::

Ron DeSantis,

::

he lost against Scarlett Johansson.

::

He lost.

::

Yeah.

::

One.

::

I don't know.

::

I don't know.

::

What does that say?

::

I don't know.

::

One.

::

Seriously.

::

Zero.

::

And also,

::

people are going to do gross

::

stuff with that.

::

They're going to do a lot of

::

gross stuff with that.

::

I mean, there was another piece.

::

I can't remember if it was from the Times,

::

but it was like,

::

we need to find a way to

::

embrace the adult content of AI.

::

And I'm like, man,

::

we are running so fast

::

before we can even walk.

::

Yeah.

::

you you get an ai to a point

::

where it's like not giving

::

me hallucinations maybe we

::

can talk about that there's

::

gonna be some horrific

::

stuff on the other end of

::

it if you don't do the

::

dishes like just straight

::

out like I'm asking you to

::

give me like 10 recipes for

::

soup and then like I got a

::

hallucination once and it

::

was like anyway tigers

::

And I'm like, I didn't ask about tigers.

::

Thanks for giving me this

::

information about it.

::

Thanks.

::

I appreciate it.

::

Can you read me a bedtime story?

::

Would you like to hear about my taint?

::

No way.

::

I don't want to hear about that at all.

::

That's not what I asked about.

::

I asked for a bedtime story for my son.

::

I didn't ask for any details

::

about your chat GPT grundle

::

that you're trying to tell me about.

::

I'm so nervous because we

::

have a Google home and like

::

all of the boys are in trouble.

::

All the boys always ask me, like,

::

show me pictures of Spider-Man.

::

I'm always like, nope.

::

I don't like that.

::

And, like, I watch it, but, like,

::

they're kids.

::

I can't be there all the time.

::

Like, how long until it's, like,

::

fan art that is, like,

::

questionable for a child, right?

::

So, like, it's like,

::

you can't use it without us.

::

And my oldest, my oldest will, my second,

::

when he figures it out, nope.

::

No,

::

he's probably going to see something if

::

they keep doing this.

::

Or we just mute it.

::

I'm going to throw up.

::

All this AI stuff,

::

they're just not thinking about it.

::

Once you get it,

::

they do have safe settings.

::

I do take that back.

::

They do have safe settings.

::

They probably won't.

::

They probably won't.

::

But still, you want to do that,

::

but you can't even do the basics?

::

Shelby pictures of Spider-Man.

::

No!

::

Brian from the other room.

::

No!

::

Get out of my way.

::

I'm just bowling over the two-year-old.

::

Brian, I gotta be honest with you.

::

Your ass is gonna be begging

::

for fucking tigers.

::

You're gonna be begging for

::

tigers after that.

::

You're gonna be like,

::

show me pictures of

::

Spider-Man and you're gonna be like,

::

please, please, please make that,

::

please make that tiger's

::

Just, okay, thank God it was Spider-Man.

::

I also did not like the way

::

Tate hit my ears.

::

Yeah, no, that was super upset.

::

Was the T too hard?

::

It was the ChatGP Tate.

::

Like, that's the part that I didn't... Oh,

::

I see how well that works.

::

Yeah, I didn't...

::

Yeah, it's also very gross.

::

Here we go.

::

Let's talk about X-Men.

::

Let's talk about mutants,

::

because I would really sure like to.

::

So we got through all the

::

episodes of X-Men 97.

::

We were very excited about

::

that being a thing.

::

And so we're going to talk about it.

::

We're going to get into it.

::

So again,

::

this is another little spoiler warning.

::

Does someone want to give like an overall,

::

not of the whole series,

::

not of an individual episode,

::

but sort of like the main

::

sort of through line of the

::

series itself?

::

All nine episodes, I believe it was.

::

I can't unless Doug is the

::

X-Men pro that reads up on everything.

::

So, Doug, you can do it or I can do it.

::

It's up to you.

::

Sure.

::

Yeah, I can.

::

Let me let me give it a shot.

::

And if I miss something,

::

I'll let you know.

::

So so what had happened was

::

this series picks up

::

exactly where we remember

::

from back in the 90s.

::

Wives off.

::

Charles is sick, dying.

::

So he goes off world.

::

To try and their medical

::

technology promises to fix him.

::

And so he leaves the X-Men

::

sort of in the care of Magneto.

::

And so I'm skipping like I'm

::

just kind of getting right to it because.

::

What I liked, this is separate,

::

so this is an aside.

::

The first four episodes,

::

when you compare it with the second four,

::

feel slow.

::

Like they feel so slow when

::

you compare it.

::

So I'm going to be speed

::

through the first four.

::

So what you keep doing was

::

Charles sick or did he get shot?

::

Because I think they say he was dying.

::

I don't remember if it was

::

sick or he got shot.

::

Okay.

::

yeah that was confusing at

::

the start because everybody

::

was like charles was shot

::

and died and I was like no

::

I saw this guy fly off in a

::

spaceship I know I saw that

::

yeah and so anyway so he

::

leaves it in the care of

::

magneto and so magneto is

::

sort of charged with

::

carrying on charles's

::

legacy which is a challenge

::

for him because up until

::

this point he has been very loved

::

humans need to be eradicated.

::

We're the superior species.

::

And so now he's being sort

::

of tried to work with these folks.

::

And so what ends up

::

happening is a series of anti-mutant

::

uh radicals storm the un

::

building um led by the

::

executioner and the

::

executioner uses the same

::

technology that they use to

::

cure mutants but to

::

basically shoot them and

::

take away their powers and

::

he manages to shoot takes a

::

shot at magneto storm jumps

::

in the way she loses her

::

powers and then goes off to

::

find you know forge and if

::

there's a way that she can get them back

::

Meanwhile, Matt,

::

still carrying on this legacy.

::

But now we're confronted with, you know,

::

what's real and what isn't

::

between Scott and Jean Grey.

::

Because there's this other

::

Jean Grey that's in here

::

and we find out that she's

::

actually a clone and their

::

memories are intertwined.

::

So when Scott and Jean give

::

birth to their son, Steve, Stephen.

::

No, that's not right.

::

Nathan.

::

Anyway, Nathan, there it is.

::

I knew it was one of those N names.

::

So when they give birth to Nathan,

::

it turns out that he didn't

::

give it birth with the real Jean Grey.

::

What's Jean?

::

What's the other one's name?

::

Madeline Pryor.

::

Madeline Pryor.

::

So Madeline Pryor is the other.

::

And so there's a whole thing there.

::

But Mr. Sinister steals Nathan,

::

infects him with a technological virus.

::

Bishop takes him back into

::

the future to have him fixed.

::

And sort of that's where we leave that.

::

So we're going to jump

::

forward a little bit.

::

Magneto is called back to Genosha,

::

and he brings Rogue and

::

Gambit and Beast and others

::

with him on this mission.

::

And then there was a giant...

::

sentinel conglomeration that

::

attacks Genosha and basically takes out,

::

I think they said 40,000

::

mutants was the final number, I believe.

::

I think if I remember it correctly.

::

Okay.

::

And destroys Genosha and

::

kills and injures thousands.

::

In the process,

::

Cable tries to come back to

::

save his parents in this

::

whole moment and save his

::

mother in that moment.

::

But he's realized he's

::

reached sort of like a

::

nexus moment that he can't

::

ever get there before it happens.

::

Yeah.

::

which is interesting that they did that.

::

And then as we start to get

::

into the latter half of the show,

::

it's really trying to

::

uncover who is responsible

::

for this particular piece.

::

And we come to find that it is...

::

Oh, I'm going to forget his name.

::

I'm terrible with names.

::

Bastion.

::

Yeah,

::

Bastion is the one who's responsible.

::

And Bastion is a mutant who

::

can intertwine himself with

::

technology because his dad

::

was taken over by Nimrod.

::

And so when he was born...

::

Bastion is essentially an

::

extension of Nimrod.

::

And so for those that don't know,

::

Nimrod is a super advanced Sentinel.

::

And so Bastion can

::

intertwine himself with the

::

Sentinels and sort of control them.

::

So he was the one who was

::

responsible for Genosha.

::

And he has now created these

::

human beings who are living,

::

breathing Sentinels that

::

used to be humans.

::

And so the crisis is,

::

what do we do in this

::

moment with that information?

::

All the while,

::

After the human sentinels sort of attack,

::

Charles manages to come

::

back from his booty call in space.

::

We had a whole episode in space.

::

We had a whole episode.

::

I'm skipping over those aside episodes,

::

Charles in space,

::

Jubilee inside the video game with Mojo.

::

Those are other things that happened.

::

Storms.

::

Storms.

::

Storm's cast.

::

How Storm got her groove

::

back is how I'll call it.

::

Oh, I like that.

::

I like it.

::

And so... That's exactly what that was.

::

And so the main through line

::

is they have to stop him,

::

but Magneto is on Asteroid M,

::

and he manages to convince

::

both Rogue and Sunspot to

::

join him on Asteroid M to say...

::

Charles enough is enough.

::

Like what more do you want us to do here?

::

You asked me, I love this line from,

::

I think it was, uh,

::

acceptance is extinction too, is they,

::

he said,

::

I've walked your path for long enough.

::

Are you prepared to walk mine?

::

Um, of this idea of like,

::

you need to see this for what it is.

::

This is them trying to exterminate us.

::

And there's a future coming

::

that we need to prevent.

::

Um,

::

Magneto Wolverine tries to kill Magneto.

::

Magneto pulls all the

::

adamantium out of his body.

::

And Charles enters his mind

::

in an effort to stop him

::

and reverse the poles and

::

restore power because

::

Magneto sort of turns off all the power,

::

shuts everybody down.

::

And it sort of culminates

::

with this gigantic showdown

::

between Bastion and the X-Men.

::

And now trying to while

::

Charles and Magneto are injured.

::

The X-Men need to rise the

::

occasion to defeat Bastion

::

and sort of get themselves

::

back to a point.

::

And so that is the gist.

::

There is a ton that I skipped over.

::

I tried to keep this really, really simple,

::

but there was a ton that I skipped over.

::

So, yeah.

::

Gentlemen, anything really,

::

really key that you all

::

feel like I left out?

::

I know it was a lot,

::

but anything that was major

::

plot points I left out?

::

When...

::

It's just when Magneto is captured,

::

and it's just a very small piece,

::

but it is a big piece.

::

That's an important one.

::

When they reveal Bastion,

::

it turns out... So they use these words.

::

I don't want to seem like

::

I'm just using these words

::

to minimize the impact of them, but...

::

they use the words in the show,

::

there was a genocide on Genosha.

::

And all the mutants died.

::

I guess before Gambit dies in that fight,

::

he sacrifices himself to

::

blow up one of the sentinels.

::

But also,

::

Magneto is protecting a bunch of

::

people around him.

::

I'm guessing at some point

::

before he let it go and he

::

tells the kid... I watched this again

::

I watched the entire season

::

all the way through this weekend.

::

I'm good on my list.

::

I'd love to do that.

::

It was so good.

::

Even better the second time.

::

Good gumbo, man.

::

I swear this show was really, really good.

::

But anyway, sorry.

::

Bastion somehow took Magneto

::

before the rest of Genosha was destroyed.

::

and held him hostage and so

::

when he was held hostage

::

the UN representative frees

::

Magneto and then he goes

::

and he basically says

::

enough is enough and

::

releases like these Magneto

::

polar like these polar yeah

::

he turns he reverses all

::

the magnetic poles on earth

::

yeah and turned off

::

everything and that's why

::

Professor X is trying to

::

hop in his head because

::

he's like killed a bunch of

::

people essentially in

::

addition to he did that to

::

shut down the Bionic the Bionic

::

biological sentinels,

::

they're human sentinels

::

that are like mixed sleeper cells.

::

Yes.

::

Sentinel Prime.

::

I just got it.

::

Yeah, that's it.

::

Gambit's death, if we want to call it that,

::

was definitely something I

::

wanted to bring up.

::

Also,

::

madeline prior dying yep

::

which right maybe right

::

it's x it's x-men so

::

anything's possible it's

::

marvel it's comics um but I

::

did I was shocked I i was

::

shocked that madeline prior

::

and sebastian uh shaw also

::

died um so sebastian shaw

::

the hellfire club at

::

genosha madeline prior I am

::

I am shocked those two deaths um

::

We're not undone by the end of the season.

::

I should check that by the

::

end of the season.

::

That's wild.

::

Yeah.

::

So I want to start with this.

::

So I know, I mean,

::

this is going to be... So I

::

want to give this show its flowers,

::

and I want to give it a

::

chance to talk through how good it is.

::

Let's do it.

::

But the three of us will

::

unanimously tell you that

::

this is up there.

::

This show is something different than...

::

your run of the mill,

::

like animation type of show.

::

I mean, I would,

::

I would rank it among the best.

::

I would compare this and the

::

last of us and put it in

::

the same echelon of

::

streaming TV that we have

::

gotten so far this year.

::

Um, but I was curious, you know, again,

::

Brian Marcus,

::

want to curious about your

::

thoughts on where do you

::

put it in terms of like how

::

it ranks and where it falls

::

and just thoughts in

::

general on just the quality

::

that this show had overall.

::

What would you have me categorize this in?

::

All-time TV?

::

Animation only?

::

Or you just want to know where?

::

Where you put it.

::

Wherever you want to put it, put it there.

::

I think in the past, since COVID,

::

there has not been a lot of

::

TV that has really kept me...

::

attached and like week to

::

week where I felt like I

::

could not miss it like this

::

like it hit the it's more

::

than just the nostalgia for

::

me that has this so high up

::

it's the writing it's the

::

animation it's the

::

character development it's

::

the it's the reality of it

::

all like how real it feels

::

so for me this is it's top

::

five for me in TV yeah top

::

five completely agree yeah

::

completely agree

::

I would have to think of where,

::

I don't know what I'm categorized.

::

Like, Daredevil, that's, like,

::

really good TV.

::

Not to make all my shit

::

sound like I'm just, like,

::

comic book shit, but, like, all time.

::

I mean...

::

I mean, Daredevil's up there, though.

::

I mean, like, I put, like,

::

Daredevil season,

::

I would say even season three is probably,

::

I feel like,

::

the best season up there with, like,

::

Breaking Bad season three.

::

It was a great, great.

::

And I consider Breaking Bad

::

probably the best

::

live-action drama of all time.

::

I mean,

::

I'm even thinking about Community

::

Season 2.

::

Community Season 2 is perfect.

::

Community Season 2... And

::

the reason I'm making these

::

comparisons is it's the consistent...

::

quality it is just a

::

consistent quality where

::

it's like there's no

::

there's no episode where

::

you feel like it drops off

::

now you can skip this like

::

it all feels yeah essential

::

viewing and like like

::

Arrested Development season

::

two comes to mind

::

um westworld season one like

::

this is this is enter it is

::

no doubt in the pantheon to

::

me because x-men 97 does

::

this thing where it

::

streamlines so many clunky

::

stories that you could get

::

caught up in right because

::

there's been 20 years now

::

25 plus years now of x-men

::

comics since 1997 right

::

that you could have done a

::

whole lot with that you could have read

::

Who did?

::

You could have done.

::

Good point, Brian.

::

A lot.

::

We've had three franchise... No.

::

We've had two.

::

It all gets mixed up.

::

We've had a lot of extra movies.

::

Brian, it's three.

::

It's the original, like,

::

Bryan Singer ones.

::

It's... Right after that,

::

it was... The Vaughn ones, right?

::

Yep.

::

The Vaughn ones.

::

And then... And then Bryan Singer again.

::

And then Bryan Singer again.

::

But, like, it depends where you put it.

::

But, like, yeah.

::

I mean, it's three distinct...

::

franchisee type things.

::

X-Men Origins.

::

Plus the One-Off.

::

Technically Deadpool is an

::

X-Men franchise on itself.

::

So like...

::

They could have drawn from so much.

::

And I think the amount of

::

restraint is admirable here

::

to tell such a good story.

::

And which is why I put it

::

with the other shows that I

::

mentioned where they are not,

::

they're not giving you a side quest.

::

Like everything does this.

::

for a reason,

::

even the Jubilee video game

::

mini so is what I'll call

::

it like you can say, Oh,

::

that's kind of a bottle episode.

::

But I would push back on it

::

because Jubilee gets her

::

moment to shine and gets to

::

see who she can become,

::

which directly leads in to

::

episode 10 of season one,

::

like that payoff works for

::

six episodes later.

::

When she's fighting Bastion.

::

And he's like what are you doing here.

::

And we're like no we know

::

Jubilee can do this.

::

Because we've seen it.

::

Well and the other thing I

::

really like about that.

::

Is Brian you're right.

::

It could feel like a bottle episode.

::

But it also advances.

::

Like a major character arc.

::

Between her and Sunspot.

::

And their relationship.

::

Like that moment for both of them.

::

Of getting through it.

::

Is very very important to their story.

::

As a couple.

::

In the whole series itself.

::

So I think.

::

I mean,

::

because when they sort of have

::

their like schism and he

::

makes the choice to go with Magneto,

::

like they've been through it.

::

So when she's like, what the fuck, dude?

::

Like, yeah, if that's that,

::

you feel that a little bit

::

more because you know what

::

you've been through.

::

Brian, to your point on May 29th.

::

So next week we will

::

celebrate the 50th

::

anniversary of Wolverine as

::

a character in comic books.

::

And so, Brian,

::

to your point of what we

::

could pull from for this, I mean,

::

it's endless.

::

It's endless what you could

::

have pulled from in terms

::

of story storylines.

::

And when you say that

::

Wolverine was his own franchise, right?

::

Like four franchises from

::

X-Men that you could have pulled from.

::

And they didn't even do a

::

Wolverine episode.

::

And I would have been fine

::

with a Wolverine episode.

::

I feel like that's the tax, right?

::

Sometimes with X-Men stuff, I'm like,

::

all right,

::

you want to watch Morph do something?

::

Well,

::

you got to watch 20 Minutes of

::

Wolverine climbing up a mountain.

::

That's what it feels like sometimes.

::

You have to watch Wolverine

::

yell at Omega Red for 15 minutes.

::

Yes.

::

100%.

::

I'm pretty sure that happened.

::

I'm almost positive.

::

And it didn't do that.

::

That just shows me the

::

adeptness and the mastery

::

of I'm just going to say it,

::

Bo DeMaio and his writing team.

::

And

::

We'll talk about it later,

::

about what his future looks like,

::

but himself and his writing team,

::

they nailed it with that

::

restraint and focusing on

::

what was important rather

::

than getting sidetracked.

::

Yeah.

::

Bo, have you tried apologizing?

::

Like, have you just tried saying, like,

::

I'm sorry?

::

Like, because I don't know... Dude,

::

I don't know what you did, but...

::

but holy shit.

::

Like if they were like,

::

cause this show is really, really good.

::

And they were like, Hey,

::

before your show even comes out,

::

you're out of here.

::

And you just went, I,

::

I have a lot of questions.

::

So he's so he's still

::

supposed to be helping with

::

season two and he'll be overlooking.

::

He tweeted this and tweeted

::

the article on it through

::

his Twitter because he's

::

been heavily communicating

::

with a lot of people through Twitter.

::

He talks to every episode.

::

He like tells people what

::

homework to watch.

::

You can tell he is a fan, fan,

::

fan of X-Men.

::

Right.

::

Sliding into his DMs to see

::

if he'll come on the show.

::

Who, us?

::

Yeah,

::

have we tried asking Bo if he'll come

::

on the show?

::

Let's find out what he did

::

first before we just start

::

sending invitations.

::

You know what?

::

Thanks for being the responsible one.

::

Hey, surprise, surprise.

::

Shocker to everybody.

::

You know what?

::

That tells me that you may

::

have learned a lesson about

::

internet safety, and I appreciate that.

::

I'm going to let him have it.

::

So, Bo DeMaio, if you're listening.

::

I'm going to let him have it.

::

The listeners don't even

::

know what that challenge was about.

::

They have no idea what that is.

::

And I'll never tell them.

::

But Bo,

::

he had tweeted that he will still

::

have some oversight,

::

but it's not as involved as

::

it was in season one.

::

So he specifically was like,

::

I'm not going to be picking

::

the music and picking the blah, blah,

::

blah, blah,

::

blah and doing everything as hands-on,

::

but he still will be a part

::

of the process to some capacity.

::

That's very paraphrasing of

::

what the article said.

::

Yeah.

::

yeah I yeah it was it was I

::

recognize thanks you're

::

right you're right that's

::

my dog yeah yeah uh I don't

::

know I don't know what I

::

don't know what he did I

::

everybody wants I know but

::

here we are the nda is

::

locked tight so here's my

::

thing yeah um unless was

::

anybody else about to say something

::

I love that movie, by the way.

::

I love Go Go Gadget.

::

Here are the things that stood out to me.

::

One,

::

Redemption for the characters, right?

::

And so like from an

::

audience's nitpicky perspective,

::

I think for characters like Jubilee,

::

you get those episodes

::

where you can see her full

::

potential because I think

::

the running joke for

::

anybody who's not a fan, fan,

::

fan and only sees Jubilee

::

in like what we used to see her in,

::

she's a teenager who can

::

make firecrackers, fireworks, right?

::

But then you get this, you kind of get it

::

It's a little bit

::

differently when she's

::

going up against Bastion.

::

And then I saw somebody say, well,

::

I don't think people

::

understand in the comic

::

book she's making things

::

catch fire at a subatomic level.

::

So it's like, oh,

::

it's more than just fireworks.

::

So like with that kind of knowledge,

::

we get such good redemption arcs.

::

I know there's been a lot of

::

back and forth between how

::

Storm was kind of handled

::

in this season and, you know, Bo.

::

Yeah.

::

has been tweeting about like, hey,

::

Black pride or being

::

pro-Black does not mean

::

always having to resort to

::

like some type of violence

::

or something with the

::

characters that they're depicting.

::

And I see, I see,

::

I'm not sure what people

::

were looking for from Storm

::

because all of my Storm moments in this,

::

I thought were executed.

::

Yes,

::

I thought they were executed very well.

::

I'm not sure what some

::

people were looking for from Storm.

::

I know what they were

::

looking for from Bishop,

::

because he kind of went on vacation.

::

He took Nathan to the future and was like,

::

well, I've done my job.

::

He just stayed there.

::

So the Black characters, and in Sunspot,

::

there's back and forth with

::

Sunspot and the color of his skin,

::

how he's supposed to be of

::

darker skin tone,

::

and Afro-Latino was

::

originally a Black character.

::

So I'm seeing a lot of that discourse,

::

but I don't want to talk about that.

::

Right now.

::

I mean, I, I,

::

and I think that that also

::

kind of gets into how this show,

::

I feel like handled so many

::

expectations because I

::

think some of that stuff

::

was going to happen.

::

I'm referring to the storm

::

stuff because like,

::

the thing with X-Men is that

::

it built out such a huge

::

roster of characters.

::

Like when you talk to somebody about X-Men,

::

they're like, Oh, I love blank.

::

Like when Maggie and I met

::

at college and I found out

::

that she watched the nineties X-Men,

::

like this was even before we were dating.

::

Like it was one of the first

::

things we bonded over.

::

And she's like, Oh my gosh,

::

I love Jean gray.

::

And I'm like, you like Jean gray.

::

And like, we had this whole conversation.

::

Cause I, I, I like Cyclops and she's like,

::

you like Cyclops.

::

Oh,

::

oh that's cute what the hell

::

you guys are so fucking

::

cute that's so perfect for

::

each other well and it's

::

it's why I also brought it

::

up in earlier episodes

::

because like I would say

::

like cyclops people like

::

he's such a boy scout he's

::

so boring and I'm like

::

and then we got, you know,

::

his optic blasts.

::

But, like,

::

everybody has a favorite character,

::

right?

::

They have a character they

::

just want to see pop out, right?

::

And so I felt like there was

::

going to be that to some

::

degree in this show of, like, well,

::

I didn't get a whole lot of Nightcrawler,

::

you know?

::

Like, that's what I was waiting for.

::

I do understand there's a

::

bit of a nuance with Storm.

::

However, I feel like, to me, I...

::

I was very satisfied with her arc.

::

She fought a giant owl demon.

::

That was bad as hell.

::

I saw her make a glass tornado.

::

She has so many banging moments.

::

There's three, I'm going to say,

::

splash page moments I can think of.

::

And I think she's just a

::

really strong character.

::

She could...

::

I feel like she could have her own show.

::

That's not the direction

::

they're going to go.

::

But yeah, I get that.

::

But that's one of the

::

troubles with an ensemble

::

piece like this.

::

Everybody's going to want a

::

piece of the pie.

::

And I feel like X-Men 97

::

really like... They were like, no,

::

this is going to be Magneto season.

::

Sorry, everybody.

::

If you came for Wolverine,

::

you get Magneto.

::

That's what I feel like happened,

::

which I feel like was a

::

great way to tell this story.

::

I mean...

::

That went to my second point,

::

which was like,

::

you can tell which

::

characters that the head

::

writers liked or loved.

::

Oh, yeah.

::

This person loved Magneto.

::

Whether it's Bo...

::

Whether it's Bo or whoever

::

is in that writing room,

::

they love that Magneto storyline.

::

And they were very

::

meticulous about how they wrote and drew.

::

You don't just draw a sexy Magneto,

::

you know what I mean?

::

You don't have to do that.

::

But they were obviously

::

trying to make some kind of a point.

::

And you can tell.

::

That that that is one of the

::

moments I knew this show

::

was was growing up was like, oh,

::

you would not see Magneto

::

in a black speedo in the 90s.

::

No, no, no.

::

You wouldn't see that.

::

Like they very much took a

::

lot of love and care with him.

::

Well, and I think to that point,

::

it's I think the other

::

thing that I really

::

appreciated about this is.

::

They always sort of tried to paint,

::

at least I feel like this

::

way in the 90s when you go

::

back and watch that,

::

is that it almost feels,

::

and I'm not trying to take

::

it down a notch, it's just an observation,

::

it feels a little disjointed as a team.

::

They feel disjointed as a

::

team because we never get a

::

chance to explore their relationships.

::

If you look at

::

one of the very early episodes,

::

I think it's night of the Sentinels.

::

Number two, like the second part, part two,

::

where Wolverine just cuts the roof off of,

::

of, of, of Scott's like Jeep.

::

And he goes, yeah, now he's got a sunroof.

::

And like, that's all like,

::

they never say why it happened.

::

They never talk about it.

::

It's just, he's kind of curmudgeon.

::

And what I think where this show is,

::

separated itself and made

::

itself something unique is

::

it said no like these this

::

is a there are fucking

::

complicated relationships

::

here that we need to be

::

aware of and we need to tap

::

into that really really drive home

::

And speak to the way in

::

which all of these

::

characters interact and

::

relate to one another.

::

And it's as simple as when

::

you see Nightcrawler for the first time,

::

how excited he gets to see

::

Rogue and Gambit.

::

Those are not just...

::

friends of his those are

::

family members and he is

::

like he is like the only

::

equivalent I can say is he

::

is an 11 year old when you

::

tell them his cousins are

::

coming over like he is

::

jacked as shit to like see

::

them for the first time

::

like that's all he is I

::

knew exactly that's right

::

And so I appreciated that

::

the complexity of rogue of

::

putting her in this

::

position of Remy has always been there.

::

Gambit has always been there,

::

has loved and supported her, has said,

::

I don't care about the consequences.

::

I just want to be with you.

::

Coupled with someone like

::

Magneto who can give her

::

what she's looking for,

::

which is that sense of

::

physical touch without the

::

risk of doing anyone that

::

she cares about harm.

::

Right.

::

And the dichotomy of what

::

that does to that relationship overall.

::

This is such an interesting

::

way in which it plays out.

::

And they just handled it so masterfully.

::

And it culminates in that

::

acceptance is extinction

::

where Charles is inside

::

Magneto's mind being like,

::

you don't need to do this.

::

yes,

::

you are in a water of terrible things

::

that have happened,

::

but you got to swim through

::

the water to get to the

::

people you care about.

::

We are shaped by our most

::

trying moments into who we

::

are and who we surround ourselves with.

::

It was just so well done.

::

And that's one of the things

::

I really appreciated about

::

the show overall is, yeah,

::

it's about a dude that can

::

shoot lasers out of his eyes.

::

and you know a man who has

::

like can control robots but

::

there's so much more at the

::

like if you dig down deep

::

that like speaks to me as

::

an adult and why I enjoyed

::

it so much oh man yeah

::

you're right like as a 37

::

year old dude I've been

::

around the block a little

::

bit more than when I was

::

eight and I watched this

::

for the first time right

::

right like it's more than a

::

saturday morning

::

cartoon right like we're

::

talking about it's dropping

::

on a wednesday people got

::

full-time jobs this show

::

was specifically made for a

::

certain audience yes you're

::

absolutely right you're not

::

wrong you know what I mean

::

so it's it's that's the

::

thing that stood out to me

::

and the complexities of

::

magneto who's already gone

::

through one he's already

::

gone through the holocaust

::

he he survived that like he

::

is a holocaust survivor yes

::

He already witnessed one genocide.

::

And then you have this character who,

::

which I never,

::

you know that when they

::

hint at it very lightly in

::

the movies and Bryan Singer and it's like,

::

oh, okay, yeah, for sure.

::

And there's like every once in a while,

::

there's a line of like,

::

a needle will never touch my skin again.

::

Like that's a fire line, right?

::

You know what I mean?

::

Right.

::

But it's hard to remember that.

::

But in this show,

::

they constantly remind you

::

that Magneto is not just

::

mad because he's a mutant

::

and he's just mad.

::

This motherfucker has

::

witnessed two genocides and

::

all for just being who he is.

::

He has a reason to be mad.

::

I was born this way and

::

somebody doesn't like me

::

just off the strength of

::

they have the money, resources, finances,

::

power, etc., etc., etc.,

::

to oppress me to um hold me

::

back to hold me down to use

::

whatever tools they got to

::

go against my entire

::

lineage the thing that

::

makes me who I am I didn't

::

do that just once I've done

::

this shit twice they're

::

trying to deny me the

::

future that they're trying

::

to protect for themselves

::

right like and that's and

::

that's the thing that I

::

think is so powerful and

::

I'm so glad that you

::

brought that up marcus is that

::

They could have ignored that.

::

Bo DeMeo could have said,

::

you know what I'm not going to touch?

::

I'm not going to touch God

::

loves man kills.

::

I'm not going to touch that at all.

::

But he was like, nope, not in 2024.

::

I can't not touch it.

::

But what he did is he did it, and Brian,

::

you said this earlier,

::

they took so many pieces of

::

of different storylines and

::

arcs and things like that

::

that have happened and they

::

just jumped like they just

::

jumped right in and they

::

put them together in a way

::

in which that was cohesive

::

and worked and I mean it

::

like the parts where they

::

went on this like acceptance and

::

Tolerance,

::

the idea of tolerance and the idea of,

::

you know,

::

someone willing to fight to

::

protect what they have and

::

that like they handled that

::

so goddamn well that it was

::

just it was really well

::

done and not in a way in which.

::

and this is going to sound weird,

::

if anyone has a thought, I recognize it,

::

but not in a way in which

::

it was so preachy that

::

someone would have gone like, it's woke,

::

get it out of here.

::

Like they did it in a way in

::

which that fits so masterfully, I think,

::

into the story.

::

And I think the best example of that

::

is Rogue and you see Rogue

::

basically in the beginning

::

of the show she's like hey

::

Magneto like we were lovers

::

but like you gotta earn you

::

have to earn your spot here

::

like I love you but you

::

need to earn your spot as

::

an X-Man and like

::

I thought that was

::

incredible and everything

::

with the UN and.

::

Oh yeah.

::

Oh, that all went down.

::

And then you get to Genosha,

::

which like you,

::

that I would say that's a rogue episode.

::

If I had to like,

::

that is probably the rogue episode.

::

And she sees and feels that

::

like Magneto was right.

::

Like they're going to come

::

for us no matter what,

::

no matter what we do.

::

And you like, you see her.

::

You see her becoming

::

grizzled in real time.

::

And I think that is so hard

::

to do without overdoing it.

::

I think it's so hard to do

::

in an animated format.

::

And I think it's so hard to

::

do because these are like

::

maybe 40 minutes.

::

These are not 42 minute, one hour,

::

like HBO dramas, right?

::

Like we have to pack all

::

this in and like 35 minutes.

::

And we have to get Magneto off the board.

::

Like you see Rogue and it makes sense.

::

You're not mad at her.

::

You're not mad at her the

::

next episode when she makes

::

Captain America look like a fool.

::

And I'm a huge Cap fan.

::

I'm like, no, that needed to happen.

::

Rogue showed the world how

::

much the Avengers suck on this.

::

And I'm happy about it.

::

And then they went back to it.

::

Brian,

::

what I love about that is they went

::

back to it.

::

Because while every other

::

fucking hero is out there

::

fighting and trying to defend themselves.

::

Where the fuck are the Avengers?

::

They're in the White House

::

making sure the President's okay.

::

They're making sure they're

::

going to nuke the asteroid.

::

All of them.

::

All of them.

::

Even Black Panther.

::

You know what I mean?

::

What did you just say?

::

I called them douche tips

::

because that's the worst

::

part because that's the

::

part that goes inside.

::

Oh, golly.

::

Wow.

::

I have nothing to say to that.

::

No, thank you.

::

Brian's audible eject.

::

All right.

::

Well, I'll see y'all later.

::

Well, that'll do it for me, everybody.

::

I'm going to go ahead and

::

hit that end stream button.

::

Anyway, step one, read a book.

::

Are you kidding me?

::

I got so much.

::

Are you kidding me?

::

You know me.

::

I ain't tough.

::

I'm resilient.

::

I always make myself sound so persecuted.

::

I love the fact that they're

::

in the Situation Room and

::

Black Panther and Cap are like,

::

I'm a little uncomfortable about this.

::

Iron Man's just like, whatever.

::

I'm here.

::

Send my nukes up.

::

Let's do this.

::

You bought them for me.

::

Go ahead.

::

They got Stark Enterprises

::

right on the side of them motherfuckers.

::

I mean,

::

they're arc reactor powered probably.

::

He doesn't care.

::

He's going to buy more.

::

Like,

::

any like rogue showed that I

::

feel like in such an

::

effective way and not

::

because she threw his

::

shield but like cap just

::

trying to be like we gotta

::

do this by the book and

::

you're like you're telling

::

this to a woman who just

::

lost the love of her life

::

and who's clearly on a

::

rampage by the way like

::

you're standing toe-to-toe

::

with rogue and she just

::

took out the hulkbuster unit like

::

nah man like you're off and

::

I loved how much they

::

showed that and I

::

absolutely believe that is

::

how 1997 Captain America

::

would act and that is one

::

of the enjoyable parts of

::

this so I just I feel like

::

Rogue really brings that

::

point home about how these

::

characters change and how

::

intricate those

::

relationships are and how

::

well that show showed it

::

Okay, I agree.

::

I want to keep going because

::

there's some shit in here

::

that I really want to get off my chest.

::

Number one, Theo James.

::

I'm going to tell y'all now,

::

this motherfucking show is

::

going to win an award for something.

::

I agree.

::

It should win a couple.

::

My preference would be

::

either animation or

::

dialogue or whatever it is

::

that you put in the script

::

because the shit that they were saying...

::

the the monologues that

::

these motherfuckers when

::

they introduce bastion and

::

it's fucking theo james

::

voice and I watched the

::

shit three times I like I'm

::

not bullshitting you I

::

watched it three times that

::

same night and I kept

::

rewinding it because he he

::

reveals himself and said oh

::

well the x-men they've been

::

had a little secret they

::

said that they homeboy got

::

shot but he's really on

::

another planet I'm about to

::

expose him so like you know

::

I mean it's gonna be even

::

playing but I got a secret of my own

::

I've got a Magneto in the tub.

::

Okay.

::

And he's telling Magneto, listen,

::

all you got to do

::

essentially is just shut

::

the fuck up and listen.

::

You are so good at playing

::

your role and doing what

::

you're told to do.

::

Like that's exactly what you

::

were made for.

::

Now smile for the candy camera.

::

I'm going to make this shit.

::

You are talking about the

::

most powerful motherfucker

::

in the world is just not moving,

::

being held hostage by Bastion.

::

That's not the only monologue that, I mean,

::

Gambit, Mon Ami,

::

my name is Gambit Mon Ami, remember it.

::

Nobody has ever...

::

that's a callback to the

::

older show but it hits

::

significantly different in

::

the context of which they

::

set it up and I think oh

::

yeah that's the beauty of

::

the show is like it's not

::

just we're not just turning

::

this like now here's what I

::

say I did try to re-watch

::

x-men the originals like a

::

long time ago it's a lot of

::

filler episodes in that

::

motherfucker or at least

::

feels like filler they told

::

every possible offshoot

::

they went yes well I know

::

we just did one where they

::

battle sentinels

::

I don't know.

::

What if they just went to the Savage Land?

::

And they were like, why?

::

I don't know, because why not?

::

There's an episode where Wolverine,

::

I believe, goes to church.

::

And Jubilee's like,

::

why don't you go to church?

::

And he's like, kid,

::

I don't got time for church.

::

That's not what I do.

::

I got claws.

::

What does claws have to do with church?

::

I got claws.

::

Look, bub.

::

I would say season one

::

through three of the

::

original series does it the least,

::

but then seasons four and

::

five are just like, y'all, it's bonkers.

::

I love X-Men.

::

Remember when Spider-Man

::

randomly shows up?

::

It's bonkers.

::

That was appointment television.

::

I looked at a TV guide.

::

I made sure I wasn't missing

::

that for anything.

::

Hey, Google,

::

show me pictures of Spider-Man.

::

it's a matter of time

::

without safe search I'm

::

just saying but yeah like

::

there was no filler no none

::

they cut the fat and so I

::

just want to say Theo James

::

expect your award you need something I

::

cast him for something else

::

like voice acting because I

::

don't know why I ain't

::

heard him voice act before

::

but that motherfucker got

::

voice made of butter and

::

that's all I know I mean he

::

pops up in a lot of stuff

::

he was in the White Lotus

::

he was in the Divergent

::

franchise he was also in

::

the Gentleman series on Netflix

::

Yup, and he did voice work for The Witcher,

::

Nightmare of the Wolf.

::

We can give you the Films in

::

Black and White Tip of the

::

Hat Award for great voice acting.

::

Yes, congratulations.

::

I'm happy to lock that in.

::

I invented it up right now.

::

B.O.

::

James,

::

congratulations on winning the Tip

::

of the Hat Award.

::

I solemnly swear I won't

::

talk about anything gross if you don't.

::

I'm going to be honest.

::

It doesn't sound great the

::

way y'all keep saying tip, but like, yeah,

::

for sure.

::

Like the emphasis on that.

::

Right.

::

Anyway, I also love this.

::

I also loved my favorite

::

part about this entire series,

::

especially the episode.

::

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

::

You see, I appreciate it.

::

So that's not a lot of hate.

::

Not a lot of hate,

::

just the tip of the hate.

::

Just the tip of the hate.

::

Just the tip of the hate award.

::

Not full hate, but just the tip.

::

Look,

::

that's what happens when I'm typing fast,

::

okay?

::

This is what happens.

::

Tip of the hate.

::

Carry on, Marcus.

::

Just the tip, just a little bit of it.

::

I like the fact that mutants,

::

we get to see people with powers,

::

mutants,

::

Doing regular,

::

I want to make sure I'm

::

saying the right shit, regular life shit,

::

because I don't want to say normal,

::

right?

::

Because then that says that

::

they're not normal.

::

But just doing regular life shit.

::

For example, when they're on Genosha,

::

they have a scene where

::

they're talking about the

::

apples and nightcrawls, talking about, oh,

::

yeah, it's like, oh,

::

they're kind of taxing for the apples,

::

but they say, hey,

::

that comes with it because

::

this is what comes with it.

::

There's kids that are using

::

their powers and they're breakdancing.

::

Like, yes, they're dancing, breakdancing,

::

they're singing.

::

Even Professor X,

::

when he has his vision of

::

everything that happened on Genosha,

::

he says, oh,

::

they were he said they were dancing,

::

drinking,

::

making love like this is regular

::

life shit that we get to

::

see like mutants do.

::

And I feel like that is such

::

an essential piece to Genosha.

::

humanizing quote unquote

::

like what we're looking at

::

because to see them just

::

enjoying themselves before

::

the genocide actually

::

happened says oh that could

::

have been me like if you

::

are empathetic that's a

::

great point that's a great

::

yes and so that's why that

::

episode made me cry because

::

I'm like I'm in tears

::

watching this fucking

::

happening because I'm like

::

I guess it's as a black man, obviously,

::

I don't even want to say

::

that because of where we live in.

::

I will say this with a grain of salt.

::

Say it.

::

We support you, man.

::

No, no.

::

It's more like I don't ever

::

want to go to the extremes, right?

::

This is animation.

::

This is TV.

::

But everything has a little

::

bit of reality to it.

::

The only thing I could do

::

was put myself into the

::

shoes of if somebody was to

::

draw us to a place.

::

Right.

::

And say all black people,

::

we're going back to Africa.

::

OK, we're going back to Africa.

::

We don't like the way we're being treated.

::

We don't go back to Africa.

::

And then something was to

::

happen where they got us

::

all in the same place or a large.

::

percentage of us in the same

::

place where they could

::

execute something like this

::

just off the strength of being black.

::

We got them exactly where we want them.

::

And this is the perfect time to strike.

::

It's hard to think out loud

::

that somebody wouldn't have that thought,

::

right?

::

I totally agree.

::

That's not an option in

::

people's minds to be like,

::

I wish that we could do that too.

::

Insert whatever.

::

Not just black people.

::

Insert whoever they just

::

deem is not worthy.

::

It's not hard for my brain

::

to draw similarities

::

between Genosha and Tulsa, Oklahoma.

::

Right.

::

Black Wall Street.

::

Not hard.

::

No,

::

and I was thinking about Pulse Nightclub,

::

too.

::

Yes, yes.

::

I mean, they're dancing.

::

Like, they're not even, like,

::

Magneto's not even having

::

Asteroid M hover over anything.

::

They're literally just having a good time,

::

and then... They're having

::

the Hellfire Gallop.

::

That's it.

::

Right.

::

I think Bo mentioned that

::

that was the reference in that episode.

::

He did.

::

Wow.

::

Okay, well, he nailed it.

::

Yes, that was a great call-out, Brian.

::

But again, absolutely right.

::

This is the life that we see around us,

::

and you cannot tell me that

::

these smaller versions of

::

nobody's going to put us...

::

We don't have the capacity

::

to put us all on a fucking island,

::

but if we're all in a

::

fucking nightclub or

::

something like that and

::

somebody decides they want

::

to shoot it up or harm

::

everybody in there or blow

::

up the building, like...

::

I think that's why Charles'

::

words of they were dancing,

::

they were living, they were making love,

::

they were being themselves.

::

I think that that's why it's

::

so powerful because if you

::

draw the similarity,

::

it's wherever someone is

::

truly being themselves and

::

something like this happens.

::

The most vulnerable.

::

That's why it's so awful.

::

Like it's awful on its face.

::

Right.

::

Like, and that's,

::

I think where the reporter tries to play,

::

I think that's where beast

::

gets really frustrated with the reporter.

::

Like in that episode where

::

they're walking through is

::

the reporter tries to say like,

::

Yeah, this is really tough.

::

Look at all this death.

::

And Beast is like, you don't get it.

::

This isn't just people died.

::

They were not bothering anyone.

::

We were just being ourselves

::

in a place where we didn't

::

have to worry about being tolerated.

::

Right.

::

it was still taken away from us.

::

Like, and so I think that that,

::

those moments are, I think really,

::

really important to sort of

::

like focus on.

::

So I, I, Brian Marcus,

::

I appreciate the fact that

::

you don't want to like take

::

it to the extreme, but again,

::

that has always been.

::

And it's kind of like what I

::

was trying to get to earlier.

::

Like that's always been an

::

element of X-Men.

::

Like that's always been an element of,

::

you know, these are, they are,

::

they are written this way for a reason.

::

Yeah.

::

Well, and I think, yeah, like Marcus,

::

I definitely want you to

::

feel like you can say that.

::

Cause I think,

::

I think that metaphor is apt

::

and I feel like watching

::

and talking about this show

::

and how it's progressed to like, I mean,

::

see a lot of where I got

::

some of my politics even at

::

eight or nine years old

::

like I knew from watching

::

this uh in the 90s like

::

something was off like

::

right like oh like I'm

::

seeing the concepts as

::

they're played out here and

::

then I go into the real

::

world and it's eerily

::

similar huh how about that

::

and to now grow up with it

::

and then be at this age of

::

a 30 something year old man

::

and then just see it and have that,

::

have that type of emotional

::

impact of like some stuff

::

has really changed,

::

but other stuff really has like,

::

and I don't know,

::

it was just kind of this loss of,

::

it just kind of felt that

::

Genosha episode and what

::

you're talking about, Marcus,

::

it just kind of felt like it was,

::

the show was acknowledging

::

the audience of like, we get it.

::

You've seen stuff and this

::

show is going to try to grapple with it.

::

That's,

::

that's what it felt like for me.

::

So like,

::

even though it was terrible and I

::

teared up during remember it,

::

it was just kind of this like, yeah,

::

like we're grown up now,

::

like this stuff happens and

::

how we react to it matters,

::

which is why I think the

::

back half of this season

::

really connected with me on

::

a lot of levels,

::

whether it's rogue going on a rampage,

::

Or Jean being like, no,

::

I'm going to tap into the

::

Phoenix Forest to save my

::

son because I can't have

::

another bad thing happen to me, right?

::

Relatable energy.

::

I can relate to that in my age now.

::

Yeah.

::

I want to be cognizant of where we're at.

::

Are there other points that

::

you all want to make before I pivot to my,

::

you know,

::

towards the end of the... Before

::

we start bringing it home?

::

Yeah.

::

I have one more question in the chamber,

::

but I want to be respectful

::

if you had anything else.

::

I don't even know where you start,

::

to be honest.

::

It's...

::

Let me look.

::

I have a whole thing.

::

Go ahead, Marcus.

::

Just while you look it up,

::

I appreciate not always pairing.

::

Thank you for giving me

::

enough of everybody.

::

It wasn't too much Nightcrawler.

::

There was just enough.

::

But also,

::

thank you for the pairing of

::

Nightcrawler and Wolverine

::

and things I never thought I would see.

::

Or Wolverine falling from

::

the sky and doing this

::

adamantium tornado spin

::

with the fucking claws and like...

::

Kurt not just teleporting

::

all over the place, but he has a sword.

::

That's an essential part to who he is.

::

And non-cliche women-led characters.

::

As far as I could tell,

::

they all had some depth.

::

The show is about love,

::

so maybe the Bechdel test

::

doesn't really pass here.

::

But

::

No, it does.

::

Does it?

::

Oh, okay.

::

It's first episode.

::

Storm and Jean, I'm pretty sure.

::

No, it's the second episode.

::

I take it back.

::

It's the second episode for sure.

::

I think it happens in the first episode,

::

but I don't have the

::

evidence at the moment.

::

But Storm and Jean have a moment.

::

Where they're just only

::

talking to each other, not about a man.

::

I love that because I've

::

never thought about Storm

::

and Jean being sisters.

::

Like best friends.

::

Yeah, never in my life.

::

But yeah, of course,

::

that makes a lot of sense.

::

So I just enjoy the pairing

::

of complex characters in

::

different lights.

::

that that that mind the

::

weather weather your mind

::

exchange was fucking

::

brilliant I thought it was

::

good I thought that was so

::

good brilliant I mean that

::

episode nine it like it it

::

caught it checked all of my

::

like let's go boxes we got

::

a blackbird blowing up we

::

got people jumping out of

::

the blackbird we got

::

somebody going ham with an

::

energy blast we got

::

sentinels falling it was

::

like yep this checks it all

::

good job everybody he's

::

gonna be upset that's the

::

third blackboard this is the

::

That was an incredible line.

::

My surplus thoughts were the

::

animation on this was super smooth.

::

I feel like Invincible,

::

it's going to be inevitable.

::

It's going to be compared to

::

Invincible on Amazon Prime.

::

I honestly think that's fine.

::

That's incredible company to have.

::

All of these combat scenes

::

are masterfully done.

::

The Wolverine Nightcrawler one,

::

the first Sentinel exchange

::

in the first episode,

::

just it's so buttery smooth.

::

It is so, so, so good.

::

My other surplus thought

::

here was I really enjoyed,

::

I just enjoyed how they

::

focused on Jubilee.

::

And I thought the the Matendo episode,

::

while silly,

::

I feel like that if you want

::

to reference something overtly nostalgic,

::

like the X-Men 90s beat

::

them up arcade game,

::

like that's how you do it.

::

Like, yeah,

::

like you you intertwine it with

::

that character's emotional beats.

::

And then if you need to add

::

that outside element.

::

to bring it home and I

::

thought the thematic like

::

connections there were

::

amazing and I honestly I

::

don't it's very hard for me

::

to see a show pull off

::

something like that if they

::

were like hey you remember

::

this I can't even think of

::

another example because I

::

don't think a show could pull it off like

::

But anyway,

::

the last thing I wanted to mention was,

::

I think,

::

in the last episode in the finale,

::

when at this point you're

::

like Magneto was right.

::

And like,

::

I was struggling with that

::

because I was like,

::

is that where the show wants us to go?

::

And maybe, maybe it is like maybe we've.

::

Maybe we have moved the

::

spectrum of what we see so

::

far off the base that

::

Magneto is right after all these years.

::

It's very hard to disagree

::

with him after these past 25 years.

::

It's very difficult.

::

um and I love the fact that

::

basically bastion's like

::

they're never gonna love

::

you like what are you doing

::

like they don't want any of

::

this they don't they have

::

you as babies and they

::

don't want you like what's

::

your deal and cyclops is

::

like he legit tries to

::

follow the golden path to

::

use another dune reference

::

and he's like no like we

::

have to stop we have to

::

stop this fighting like

::

this is mad like I can't

::

remember exactly what he

::

says but he's like we we

::

have to try he tells him

::

all the stand down

::

I feel, to me,

::

that is the essence of X-Men.

::

Stuff's bad.

::

Stuff's not great, but we have to try.

::

No matter what happens,

::

we have to make that effort.

::

We have to believe that we

::

can just talk it out.

::

I love the fact it's depressing,

::

but I love the fact that Bastion's like,

::

No.

::

Like, I would never... I'd never join you.

::

I'd actually destroy myself

::

before I'd even think of allying with you,

::

which I feel like is such a

::

brutal metaphor for some of

::

the things that we encounter in our life.

::

That you will meet people

::

like this who hate

::

themselves and want to

::

destroy everything around them.

::

And even when you stick out your hand,

::

they will choose to destroy

::

themselves and everyone

::

around them rather than do the work.

::

Or even...

::

And, like,

::

just letting go of that person

::

is acceptable.

::

And that's okay.

::

But at least you tried.

::

And I feel like that was done really well.

::

Because it honored all of Magneto's, like,

::

the spirit of his character,

::

which he made valid points.

::

And I will stick by that for

::

as long as I live.

::

But you also had Bastion, who...

::

You can't convince him.

::

You can't convince everybody.

::

And that's okay.

::

Let them go.

::

They're never going to be that person.

::

Some people are just so,

::

they have convinced

::

themselves of something so

::

much that it's actually

::

better to let them go.

::

Like, exactly.

::

Now,

::

the metaphor here was a giant black hole.

::

Don't throw people into a black hole.

::

But like, I mean, that's the idea, right?

::

You just, you have to let this go.

::

And I thought that was really well done.

::

Yeah, it was incredible.

::

That was very, very well done.

::

Sorry, before Doug moves on,

::

just one more thing.

::

The speech that – I forgot her name,

::

but she – The UN delegate.

::

Yep.

::

And she – Nancy, for some reason,

::

is coming to my mind.

::

I don't think that's right.

::

I'll look it up.

::

You're good.

::

Keep going.

::

She gives this speech and

::

she's explaining to Bastion

::

why she betrayed him.

::

This was my favorite speech

::

in the whole series.

::

And she says, he says, you know, nobody,

::

she said,

::

nobody's really shocked that I

::

let Magneto go.

::

Nobody's shocked by this.

::

I think, in fact, everybody saw it coming.

::

And she says, you know,

::

because she's looking at Magneto.

::

She sees the Holocaust number on his arm.

::

She's trying to tell him,

::

you haven't spoken since Genosha.

::

Like, you have to say something.

::

Say something to me.

::

I'm sorry.

::

I didn't know that this was happening.

::

And the other bigger piece

::

is Bastion is also working

::

with other people.

::

villains and corporations

::

around the world to make

::

this happen is what it's

::

hinted at too as well so

::

like dr doom is in there

::

and you see a lot of uh I

::

um baron what is his name

::

not baron baron zemo um is

::

also is also in cahoots

::

with a whole bunch of other people

::

But she says there was this

::

familiar feeling.

::

And she said,

::

you don't want to know the

::

worst part about it all.

::

Nobody's shocked at our freedom.

::

But the worst part about it

::

all is there was this

::

familiar feeling when

::

you're watching everything

::

happen on Genosha.

::

And she said,

::

it's nothing but this eerie thought.

::

And it's something that you

::

can't fucking shake.

::

And she said,

::

it was the most annoying shit

::

in the world.

::

And it was the only thought

::

any sane person can fucking

::

have when witnessing a fucking genocide.

::

And it's the thought that

::

Magneto was right.

::

I just thought that that

::

lead up was pretty.

::

It was Valerie Cooper.

::

Thanks, Brian.

::

Yeah, no problem.

::

That, I think,

::

is probably the most

::

powerful monologue in the entire show.

::

I just raved about episode 10,

::

but that's it.

::

That is it,

::

and it connects on every level.

::

It fires on every cylinder.

::

It explains the season as a whole.

::

I think that that captured everything.

::

Again,

::

I think what the series did

::

masterfully...

::

is it started out so slow

::

that it started out so slow

::

and I'm not saying that as

::

a dig like I'm saying it as

::

a fact like it started out

::

like a you know you kind of you

::

And you're like, okay, cool.

::

I'm reliving some stuff.

::

I'm seeing some people fight.

::

And it had this fucking

::

thing where like you got to

::

episode four and you were

::

already hooked and you were like,

::

Oh shit.

::

Like it was just,

::

it had this moment that

::

like you were in it and like,

::

fully in it with that attack

::

on genosha and you were

::

like wait what like I

::

thought this was a fun show

::

like and that's I think

::

that that's what it did so

::

well yeah especially

::

because if I'm not mistaken

::

the jubilee episode was

::

right before it so it's a high high

::

It's assembled itself.

::

They assembled the way in

::

which it flowed to be so like,

::

you're going to get real

::

comfortable and then you're

::

going to be real uncomfortable,

::

but you're going to be so

::

hooked on what's happening

::

here that you're not going

::

to want to look away.

::

and I think to your point

::

Doug like it kind of even

::

brings in the soap opera

::

vibes of like we're X-Men

::

stuff's gonna happen right

::

but like that first episode

::

is like let's go beat up

::

some Sentinels and I was

::

there like ready to be a

::

mutant being like heck yeah

::

that's what I signed up for let's go pick

::

their ass and then like yeah

::

you get to episode two and

::

it's like magneto's here

::

and three is fire made

::

flesh and you're like oh no

::

a clone and then you get

::

the nintendo episode so

::

those four episodes you're

::

like I know the vibe of

::

this show there's gonna be

::

clones I know what this is

::

jubilee's trapped in a

::

video game and then episode

::

five's like gambit is dead

::

And not coming back.

::

And not coming back.

::

Yeah, like, no, no.

::

He's dead, dead.

::

And everybody's like, yeah, yeah,

::

but Cable's there.

::

He's going to go back in time, right?

::

And everybody's like, no, no, no.

::

And that's when Cable's like, I can't.

::

And you're like,

::

what do you mean you can't?

::

What do you mean you can't?

::

I can't fix it.

::

And that rogue-ass whooping was so good,

::

man.

::

Oh, yeah.

::

Here's the last thing I wanted to bring up,

::

which is obviously like

::

we're speculating season two, like,

::

you know,

::

and obviously Disney has asked

::

fans to be patient as they

::

put like finishing touches on season two.

::

We are clearly going to get some, you know,

::

apocalypse for the, for the, you know,

::

for the ending but like yeah

::

spoiler warning for the

::

ending but like we're

::

obviously gonna get like

::

apocalypse for season two

::

and we're going oh yeah

::

yeah no don't no get that

::

fucking shit out of there

::

he stay his big bald ass

::

somewhere else Dwayne

::

Johnson is not apocalypse

::

no I do not want that but

::

anyway like I we're gonna

::

get something with that and

::

it's gonna be something

::

time-oriented mm-hmm

::

Anybody want to maybe

::

speculate or anybody want

::

to just sort of say what's

::

something maybe they hope?

::

I don't want to do too much

::

speculation theater,

::

but maybe a fun prediction

::

if you had one.

::

My fun prediction that I

::

feel so strongly about is I

::

feel like this is...

::

I feel like it's a bait and switch.

::

They're like, oh no,

::

they're stuck in time.

::

And then it's going to be

::

resolved by the end of the first episode.

::

They're only going to be

::

there for a hot second and

::

they're going to get pulled back.

::

And then they're going to

::

have to make sense between

::

the two teams of what did we just see?

::

Did we change anything?

::

What does that look like?

::

Because to me, based on the ending,

::

we're going to come back to

::

Apocalypse in the present

::

and Gambit being one of the horsemen.

::

So I feel like it's going to

::

be short-lived.

::

I feel like their time

::

travel escapade is going to

::

be short-lived.

::

That's my bold prediction.

::

I saw this online,

::

so zero credit to me at all

::

because I did not know this.

::

There is a split-off series

::

called Cyclops and the Phoenix.

::

It's like a mini-series of

::

them going back and raising

::

the young Cable, essentially.

::

It has something to do with

::

them traveling back in time.

::

It seems like it's a direct pool of

::

Like from that miniseries run.

::

No way.

::

Cool.

::

Yeah, it made me really want to read up,

::

read on that because I'm

::

interested in what direction they go.

::

Going Apocalypse is, they saved Apocalypse,

::

like the younger version of

::

himself when they go back in time.

::

We also don't know where

::

Wolverine and Storm and Bastion,

::

question mark, like are.

::

um that's a good point yeah

::

because they all I don't

::

know where the fuck they

::

went so my speculation is

::

going to be I definitely

::

think they resolve this

::

you'll get some of that

::

time with like a young

::

cable with cyclops and gene

::

and get to see him be a kid

::

and then kind of go back

::

and they get to live in

::

that time of like raising

::

him or protecting him in

::

that kind of way yeah I

::

think that this next part

::

because we don't know where

::

magneto is either so there's that

::

Yeah, Magneto, Wolverine,

::

Professor X. Oh no, wait,

::

we do know we're Professor

::

X. Professor X and Magneto

::

are still in the same time.

::

Magneto's the one that

::

pulled all of their swords

::

away from them as they were

::

trying to kill Apocalypse.

::

Okay, so it's just Wolverine and Storm.

::

Wolverine, Storm, Forge, now Bishop.

::

Also enjoyed that callback, by the way,

::

to Days of Future Past when

::

Forge had the giant board

::

where everybody was.

::

That was so good.

::

I think having a Cyclops and Phoenix...

::

Honestly, I would really enjoy that.

::

Because I feel like they get

::

cut off from really diving

::

deep into their

::

relationship a lot of the time.

::

Which,

::

did anybody else notice that Cyclops

::

was talking to Wolverine and he's like,

::

you can't die.

::

You can't do this to her.

::

I was like, that man knows.

::

He knows.

::

I appreciate it.

::

He knows.

::

Oddly fine with it.

::

Um, here's what I'm going to say.

::

I do think that they're there.

::

I mean, they could,

::

there's a couple of ways in

::

which I think they could do it.

::

They could pull directly

::

from the age of apocalypse comic book,

::

like if they want to do and

::

in legions somehow

::

responsible because that is

::

the only person that is a

::

child of Charles Xavier,

::

which they've never touched on.

::

And, um,

::

For those that don't know,

::

Legion is the son of Charles Xavier,

::

and he usually has a hard

::

time because he's so many

::

different – he has schizophrenia.

::

And he has so many different personalities,

::

and different elements of

::

his mutation are split off

::

into all of his different personalities.

::

That's why he's never able

::

to be so strong.

::

Well,

::

in the prequel to the Age of

::

Apocalypse storyline called

::

Legion Quest –

::

all of his personalities are

::

consolidated into one and he becomes the,

::

like the most powerful

::

mutant on the planet.

::

And essentially what he does

::

is he creates a timeline

::

where Xavier never existed

::

and apocalypse is in control.

::

Oh, fuck.

::

Why would you do that?

::

Jesus Christ.

::

Why would you do that?

::

It's actually really more

::

psychological than that, where he's like,

::

well,

::

I did it because I created a world

::

my dad never could.

::

I don't hate them.

::

I love them so much.

::

I created a world where

::

there's a mutant in charge

::

and everybody gets to live in harmony,

::

but what they sacrifice for that harmony.

::

So I'm still reading that event.

::

If you remember a few

::

episodes ago where my

::

addiction came back.

::

It's okay.

::

I'm reading through that

::

event and the Legion Quest

::

storyline is fucking wild.

::

So stay tuned.

::

I might have more

::

information on how we get here.

::

But that's my prediction.

::

Because that's how you could

::

resolve it really quick.

::

I don't have an answer.

::

I realize I didn't really

::

give an answer for what I predict.

::

I think I have a concern.

::

What's that?

::

My only concern is that

::

these villains are very OP.

::

You are not talking about

::

some we can blast them and

::

then shut them down.

::

Bastion,

::

only reason that these

::

motherfuckers beat Bastion

::

was because they had to

::

damn near sacrifice everything.

::

Apocalypse ain't no fucking joke either.

::

I imagine Apocalypse is a

::

step up from Bastion

::

because he's just... That's Apocalypse.

::

So how do you introduce

::

these OP villains and how

::

do you... What is the

::

redemption for Charles Xavier?

::

Because at the end of the day,

::

at its most simplistic level of reading,

::

Charles is the good guy.

::

He is the one and the leader

::

of the X-Men that people know.

::

He's the bald-headed

::

scallywag that brings them together.

::

We got all this with Magneto,

::

but really didn't get a lot

::

of meat and potatoes with Charles and

::

where, where does he go from, you know,

::

from this point now, like,

::

you know how much it changed.

::

So I'm kind of interested in

::

seeing that journey that they give him.

::

yeah that's why I think

::

legion could be interesting

::

because charles would have

::

to deal with something that

::

he created that wasn't

::

positive got it oh he would

::

have to look at that

::

straight in the face and

::

you'd have to feel like how

::

do I manage this like how

::

do I which could be

::

interesting especially

::

since it's clear that the

::

writers like to take like

::

these like family dynamics

::

and play with them a little

::

bit you could do something

::

with that I don't want to

::

get too into that rabbit

::

hole because usually what

::

happens when I go too far

::

down I'm usually wrong but

::

I could see that being an

::

element given all the

::

context clues I have.

::

Yeah.

::

I mean,

::

there's a lot of ways they could go

::

with it.

::

I'm really curious to see

::

what the product of this is

::

without Bo DeMaio in the same role.

::

I'm looking at Mason's comment.

::

Everything feels lusty.

::

Bring Asghar's rogue holding

::

camp's shield.

::

Love Marcus' mama.

::

Mimi made a sentence out of

::

all of our taglines.

::

That's impressive.

::

I like it.

::

I like it.

::

So I'm really curious.

::

I'm really curious to see

::

how this turns out without

::

him in the position that he had.

::

So I'm a little nervous,

::

but I also feel like you

::

know what everybody liked.

::

So I don't know.

::

I'm high on it.

::

I'm positive about it.

::

So I hope they can do it again.

::

Yeah, for sure.

::

Gentlemen,

::

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::

to plug this week?

::

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::

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::

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::

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::

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::

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::

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::

There it is.

::

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::

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::

always humble,

::

no matter how many times

::

your friends pick on you.

::

That's going to be a lot.

::

We're going to do that a lot.

::

We're going to do that a lot.

::

That's what's going to happen.

::

You did, yeah.

::

Follow the mantra, never offended,

::

always humble.

::

Yes,

::

and I'm proud of you for doing that

::

despite picking on you.

::

I'm proud of you for that.

::

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::

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::

Brian,

::

lay us down with that funky first step,

::

sir.

::

hello my funky first step is

::

to read a book and I'm

::

telling you if you if

::

you're like brian I'm not

::

flush with cash I can't buy

::

books what am I a british

::

parliamentarian you know

::

what go to your library

::

this is me telling you go

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::

Marcus,

::

lay us down with that soulful second step,

::

sir.

::

You want to make sure that you're soulful?

::

Make sure you drink some water?

::

I got chunky.

::

Oh, okay, cool.

::

All right, cool.

::

First step, soulful second step.

::

Guess what the third one's going to be?

::

Actually, I don't know.

::

It's getting hot outside.

::

I'm traveling Monday,

::

so I won't be here to pot.

::

We are taking next week off,

::

so none of us will be here to pot.

::

You turkeys will have to

::

deal with us and avoid in your life.

::

Gobble, gobble.

::

Just drink some water.

::

Just drink some water.

::

Hey,

::

I want to give you a tasteful third step.

::

Hey, look, wash your ass.

::

It's important that you do that.

::

It's important you do it.

::

Look, we're in two shower season.

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You might go outside.

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It's starting to get humid.

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So you're going to go

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outside in the morning.

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You're going to get up.

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You're going to shower.

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Get yourself fresh and ready for the day.

::

Then you're going to go out

::

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Don't don't try to undo that

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Don't get your sheets all

::

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sweat of the day.

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Just wash your ass and your

::

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::

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::

You might go outside and

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walk around in the grass.

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You bring that inside.

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Wash the bottoms of your feet, y'all.

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Yeah.

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So that does us.

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for this week's episode.

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We will not be back with

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another tremendous episode.

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In fact,

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this is the last time for at least

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three weeks that you will

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not see this conglomeration

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of three people.

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Because when we get back

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after Memorial Day,

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it's a Doug and Brian classic.

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And then after that,

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it's a Doug and Marcus classic.

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Oh, gee.

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So it's a lot of me,

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but not a lot of the three.

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So you're going to have to

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deal with it as we kind of go from there.

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Mark's going to have to trade notes,

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make sure we're keeping

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Doug on track here.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You know that as late as possible.

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It's fucking typical.

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They're going to have their

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little chat and be like,

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what'd he say to you this morning?

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That's what he said to me.

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That's going to be how it goes.

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Yeah, GP taint.

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That's another level.

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But anyway, that's what we got.

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So enjoy your Memorial Day weekend.

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Have yourself a steak and a

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beer or a beverage of your choice.

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Enjoy your time with family.

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But we'll be back after that.

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And we're looking forward to it.

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But until then, until then,

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I forgot what I usually said.

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But anyway, enjoy yourself.

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And the between time.

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Stay safe, stay healthy.

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We love y'all.

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We appreciate y'all.

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We'll catch y'all in two weeks.

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I'm playing music.

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Take us out.

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Not what I expected.

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I dig it.

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I've tried to switch it up

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every once in a while.

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I like it.

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It's like my trance music

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when I'm typing emails.

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Really?

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Yes.

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Ryan, I don't even listen to the music.

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I just am like, yep, that's right.

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You might be a psycho fan, though.

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Films in Black and White
A Comedy Podcast about Movies, Comics, and Pop Culture
Deep dive into the movie news of the week, featuring reviews and analysis for the more socially conscious moviegoer. Join Doug, Marcus and Bryan as they share their honest, in-depth, and hilarious perspectives on today's biggest movies, comics, and pop culture.
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