Episode 27

Airlines, WB, Deadpool Recap aka "Surgical Bully"

Published on: 24th July, 2024

We took a week off, and the whole world went crazy. Coincidence? Yes, yes it is. That doesn't change the fact that we have a super sized episode for you. There is a lot of catching up to do, so don't miss this one.

First, Doug recounts he saga of fighting the airlines(24:29). We talk about how WB might go back to being two separate companies again(40:48). Marcus gives us the run down on why Apple TV is moving away from, well, TV(49:50). Doug tells us about his experience with the movie Twisters(56:08). We discuss The Acolyte with SPOILERS, so beware(59:60). Finally, we talk about what we are most excited for in the upcoming Deadpool and Wolverine movie(1:29:22).

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Transcript
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Yeah, it was 20, not 40.

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20 billion with a B?

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Netflix whooped their ass.

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I was kind of surprised by that, but yeah,

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Netflix whooped their ass.

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Who's in charge over there?

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Nobody also told me I

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haven't been keeping

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timestamps and then also

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realized I have not been

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updating socials.

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So that's my bad.

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Yeah, it's all right.

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All right, TJ.

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You ready?

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Spin it.

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Spin it.

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Spin it.

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my mind when the morning

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comes I'm right back where

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I started again I'm trying

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to forget that you was just

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a waste of time baby come

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back any kind of fool could

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see there was something

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oh my goodness that did he

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come back I was like where

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is he going with this like

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it was a lead-up it was a

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lead-up it was a that was a

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lead-up well welcome to

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films of black and white

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everybody welcome home to

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the dawn baby it's dawn

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from atlanta uh how are you all feeling

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Oh, you guys,

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we took a week off and

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apparently everything just went.

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We're done.

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We're out.

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Like,

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that's just all the things that happened.

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So this episode,

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we're going to touch on Deadpool.

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like a little bit.

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It's going to be like a smidgen,

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like a sprinkling,

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a smattering of Deadpool, if you will,

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to get us ready for

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Deadpool and Wolverine,

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which comes out on Friday.

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But we're going to talk

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about a bunch of different stuff.

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We're going to talk about Cloud Strike.

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We're going to talk about WB

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now becoming too separating again.

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Most likely separating again.

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Seeing if they can fail twice.

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We're going to talk about

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how Apple got mollywhopped by Netflix.

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That's what we're going to talk about.

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Mollywhopped.

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Mollywhopped.

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That's what we're going to talk about.

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I'm getting mollywhopped.

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No, he's mollywhopping me.

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But first,

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we got to make sure everybody is

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thoroughly welcomed and

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introed and brought into this space.

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So Brian Rausch, a.k.a.

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cabin fever.

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How are you feeling, sir?

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I'm feeling Is it cabin weekend?

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No, it was last weekend.

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Yes,

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I went up to a cabin with some friends.

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I was planning on seeing Doug there,

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but Doug's going to talk

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about maybe why that didn't happen.

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I didn't.

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yeah uh so I got to see some

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good friends that I hadn't

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seen uh in about three

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years so that was good so

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20 grown men packed into a

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cabin meant for three man

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um yeah pretty family vin

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diesel was there uh yes it

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was and uh and yeah we made

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it work it was great we

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were we were outside and

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and playing lawn games and

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just shooting the breeze uh as a as a

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dad I didn't have to I

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didn't have to worry about

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children for two days sure

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that was nice uh no one

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woke me up in the middle of

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the night asking to go to

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the bathroom or if they did

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they could take care of it

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themselves so that was nice

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so it would be weird if

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they were like hey brian

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can I go to the bathroom

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like brian can you go with

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me like no no I can't and

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won't I'm not gonna do that at all

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That is not why I'm here.

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No, absolutely not.

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So,

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so feeling good that it was a busy

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weekend.

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So I'm happy to,

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I'm happy to kind of

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recharge my battery here.

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So yeah, no, it's good.

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I'm happy to be here.

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We, we missed you, Doug.

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I missed you.

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It was, it was, it was, yeah,

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it was weird not being there.

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It was, it was.

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Are you watching us on

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Instagram at the same time, Marcus?

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Sorry,

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I was trying to share it on Facebook

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so people knew that we were

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live right now.

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Oh, sure.

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How we doing, folks?

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You were playing with AI a

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little bit while you were up there.

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With permission or without permission?

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Oh, I meant like,

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were you writing a song on AI?

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I feel like I saw a video of that.

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Yes.

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No, it was.

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Yes,

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there was a chat GPT assisted song

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that was written.

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One of one of our friends is

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a is a farmer and he may

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have a small crush on Taylor Swift.

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And one of my other friends

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decided to just plug in like, hey,

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make a Taylor Swift song

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about like like a Midwestern farmer.

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And then they they made it.

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And I was like, you know what?

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I'm just going to sing this

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in my in my Taylor Swift voice,

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which is not great.

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Alcohol may have been involved.

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I'm not really sure.

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But yes, Doug,

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what you saw was me trying

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my best Taylor Swift impersonation.

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It was good.

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I'm not going to lie to you.

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Farmer song.

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Is this a private video that

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Doug made public by

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bringing it up on this podcast?

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Yes, 100%.

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Oh, okay.

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Because I was like,

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I didn't see this on Instagram.

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That doesn't seem like Brian's content.

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No.

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No, that's okay.

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That's okay.

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But it was entertaining.

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And, I mean, I have the source material,

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but that is a secret tome

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that goes in a lockbox in a deep cave.

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It's like in a public broadcast.

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Look, I have the lyrics somewhere.

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I'm happy to bring them up.

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No names are mentioned.

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But yeah,

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so I did my best Taylor Swift impression,

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which I feel like this

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podcast has really prepared me for.

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You know what?

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If I am anything, I am pro impression.

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So...

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Impression away, Brian.

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I'll tell you what.

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We had a little moment there

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at the conference, Brian.

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I was sitting next to Doug the whole time.

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And about five people went

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up on that stage as a

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keynote with accents.

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And he started sweating.

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Oh, boy.

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He was resisting the urge.

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He did good.

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But it was tough.

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She challenged me.

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Challenged me.

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And I really was.

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do an accent.

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And you were like, yes.

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Proud of myself.

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I'm proud of myself.

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That's what matters.

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That's good.

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I'm proud of you, man.

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But Marcus J. Destin, a.k.a.

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the Mocha Cowboy.

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How are you feeling, Cowboy?

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Feeling good.

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I'm feeling good.

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I'm feeling great.

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I went and we went to Disney

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Springs and I made me a lightsaber.

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He did make a lightsaber at

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Disney Springs.

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I love that.

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So I have the one from Paris.

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I have my Mace Windu one

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from Paris from Megan and John.

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So straight from Disney in Paris.

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They bought it back.

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And then I have this one from Flo Rida.

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As you can see, it's purple.

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It has a nice little metallic hilt to it,

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too.

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Nice little build here.

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That was really fun.

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We went to Disney Springs,

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walked around with Doug and

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Vanessa Nelson.

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We had our one night to hang

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out to each other.

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Honestly, best night.

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Shout out to Vanessa.

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she hung with the guys like

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crazy like fitting in like

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organically like like like

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you ever see those people

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who slide into like a

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parallel parking spot

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you're like oh damn they

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pulled that off that is

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exactly what this was like

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okay she pulled that off

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yeah between like arguing

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with doug at one point like

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siblings about eating we

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ate oysters together and

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did hot sauce oyster shots

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in disney springs I did

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Delicious.

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Doug tried to get me to take

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out a second mortgage to

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actually buy the Mace Windu

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lightsaber in Disney

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Springs because it calls me

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like the force.

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He's a fucked up friend,

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I'll tell you that.

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I am.

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For those that have not been, Brian,

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we've all been at this point,

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but for those who are

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listening or watching,

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who have not been down there.

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Disney Springs is essentially the like,

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it's the shopping area of Disney.

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And so they have different stores,

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but they're like owned and

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or they're themed to Disney properties.

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And so like there's a Star Wars store,

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there's a Marvel store.

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There's a whole different

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there's a whole string of

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them that are just sort of different.

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And so we go into the Star

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Wars store and they

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actually you can buy

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because when you go to the

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Star Wars Land Galaxy's

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Edge at Hollywood Studios,

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you can buy replica

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lightsabers of your

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favorite Jedi and Sith Lords.

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So, oh, yeah,

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you really want a do you want

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Elper Emperor Palpatine's lightsaber?

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Guess what, buddy?

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You can own it.

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Yeah.

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but what's funny is,

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is so Marcus walks in there

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and we were looking at them and they know,

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no, that's not, that's not what happened.

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Okay.

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I walked in there and this

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music is playing.

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And it's the fucking theme from Star Wars.

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And all you hear is the... Brian,

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I bullshit you not.

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I'm ignoring Doug because

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he's laughing and this shit is not funny.

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The force called out to me.

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I walked in the store.

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I was randomly looking.

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Then all of a sudden, I turned my head.

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And Doug is making a joke

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because we've been cracking

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jokes all night.

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That's my guy.

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Me and him, Vanessa, we've been laughing.

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I go, I walk,

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all of a sudden the music changes.

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And with a crescendo,

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all you hear is... And I said,

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what the fuck is going on?

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And everybody else is around

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me talking and laughing

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like they can't hear the shit.

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And then they go... And I'm

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looking around like, what's going on?

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And then I spot the

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motherfucker in the corner.

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I spot her.

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I spot her in the corner.

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And she, and she, go ahead.

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Yeah, go ahead.

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So he spots him at the

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corner and there were

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people who were playing with,

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I think it was a replica of

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Kylo Ren's lightsaber.

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Oh yeah.

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And it looks like the one too.

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Yeah.

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And they had,

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so we went over there and

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look at them and Marcus,

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he like was breathless.

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And I, I was like, don't you?

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And then finally he asks, he's like,

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do you have mace windows?

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And she brings it out and

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she even connected the

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purple light stable part to it.

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And I,

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that's when I decided to be like a

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shitty friend.

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And then like,

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For a quick $250,

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you could make some magic happen, Marcus.

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$250.

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I held it in my hand.

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He was this close.

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I was this close about to

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pull all types of favors

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and just start calling in.

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This one is super light because it's like

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It's the one that is on the masses one.

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This one's got a little bit

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more weight to it because

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it comes in pieces.

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You actually have to put

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this shit together from the bottom,

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the middle, and the blade itself.

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And they make you take an oath with it.

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It was pretty cool.

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The girl was really cool.

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We had a little conversation about like,

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oh, what would you do?

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And she was like, I would be a Sith.

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And I was like, I knew it.

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Oh yeah, she was proud.

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She was like,

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I like when the kids walk up

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to me and they say,

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Cause they,

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at the end you build your saber

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and they put up Jedi or a

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Sith card and like,

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you're supposed to pick.

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So I was like, Jedi, of course.

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And she was, I was like,

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what would you pick?

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She said, I pick Sith every time.

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And she said,

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I love when the kids walk up

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and pick Sith.

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And I was like, oh shit.

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Like what the fuck?

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All right.

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Should you be working here?

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I think she was perfect.

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So yeah.

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So we went in there,

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the thing was $250 and I

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had to put the shit down and the girl,

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they're so good at selling.

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She's like, they are.

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They're so good at it.

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They're incredible.

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They're phenomenal.

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Motherfuckers.

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Her and the guy at the Marvel store,

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the Avengers, the Marvel store.

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Yeah.

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That one was really cool.

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I bought a Captain America

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shirt there at that one that was really,

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really cool.

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It looked nice.

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But we got up there,

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and they have all the

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different Infinity Stones

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and what they're kept in.

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And so we were looking at those,

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and that was really cool.

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That was really neat.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, you're not alone, Marcus.

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I because I wandered into

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the Marvel store and they're like, oh,

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you can just buy a Captain

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America shield.

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And I was like, can you?

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And they're like, here you

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hold it.

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And you're like, Oh no.

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Like once they know, once you hold it,

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it's like a 50, 50 chance.

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You're going to go through it.

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Like you're, you're right there.

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I was a hot potato.

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I got this shit out of my hand so quick.

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And then I made it worse.

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And then I made it worse

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because so we're there.

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So then, so we're there,

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like we're supposed to be

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meeting with different like

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clients and stuff for the,

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for the work side, for the ontology side.

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And I had to go back to

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Disney Springs for a dinner the next day.

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and I got there early, so I walked by,

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and I took a picture of the

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lightsaber from the window, and I went,

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you sure you don't need me

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to pick it up for you?

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He's an asshole.

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That's how he treats me.

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It was a good weekend, though.

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It was good.

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It was great.

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It was a great time.

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Doug is a great host.

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And my good friend,

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we danced inside of this

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club that they rented out for us.

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So they rented it out for

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the last celebration party.

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And I drank 20 glasses of

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Moscato wine in three hours.

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So I was pretty fucked up.

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Wow.

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Wow.

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Because I didn't want a seltzer.

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I didn't want a beer.

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And that was really all I had was seltzer,

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beer, and wine.

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And I was like,

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this is the easiest thing

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for me to down quickly.

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Yeah.

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But Marcus got to see corporate Doug,

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so that's fun.

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Corporate Doug, yes.

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Corporate Doug isn't that

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different from regular Doug

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because corporate Doug is like

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a good version of a corporate person.

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It is in every bone in his body.

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He will not try to sell you some shit.

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It's part of his job.

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He refuses it,

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but where he gets you is he

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doesn't sell it to you so

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well that you almost have to buy it.

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I've gone back to my job and said,

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we need to find $36,000 for this.

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laughter

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Look, it's a confidence of a salesman.

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It's like, I know I have the best product.

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Let me know when you want it, Tom.

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I mean, Doug sounds like Corpo Doug.

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The other thing that was

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really... Corpo Doug is wild to me.

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Corpo Doug is wild to me.

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But also Marcus got to experience this.

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So when we got there at first,

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There's something going on

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with Marcus's registration.

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And he and Vanessa kept

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making this joke in the

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chat where Marcus kept

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saying they don't want to

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see a black man win.

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And I kept going like,

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what is he talking about?

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I'm like, did something happen?

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Like, was there because, you know,

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some come some conferences

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like they have like raffles

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and things like that.

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Like,

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did he not earn the prize in a

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session like two times in a row?

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Yeah.

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Or finally, Vanessa was like,

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I had enough of this.

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Like she finally like in the chat goes,

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his registration's not

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working and he can't go to sessions.

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Oh, wait, hold on.

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Let me tell you why not

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going to sessions is important.

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Okay.

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Usually you go and you get the little,

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the little, the next shit, right?

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The little lanyard shit.

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And you feel like, oh,

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this is cute for me to keep

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after the fact of like,

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I'm gonna hang this shit up or whatever.

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Brian,

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these motherfuckers actually use the

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lanyards to scan you into sessions.

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Of course they do.

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I didn't realize my dumb ass

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is from a higher education institution.

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I'm at a fucking tech

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conference sponsored by

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Microsoft and the web version of Amazon.

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AWS.

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Oh, yeah.

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It didn't click for me that

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I kept walking around saying,

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thank you to our Diamond supporters,

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Microsoft and AWS,

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and it didn't click until I

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kept seeing the rooms with

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Microsoft colors.

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And I was like, wait a minute,

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hold the fuck on.

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Where am I?

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But anyway,

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the next text message that

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Vanessa and Marcus got in the,

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what we're politely

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referring to as the oyster chat,

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was me going, where are you?

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Like,

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Before I can even text, this mother... No,

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this is what I love about Doug.

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All right, y'all.

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Y'all seen Deadpool 1 and 2.

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We gonna get to it.

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Okay?

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This is what I love about Doug.

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Now, Doug is a really, really good friend.

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He's a really good friend.

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And he's a gift giver.

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He's really... That's his love language.

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He is.

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It's true.

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He is a phenomenal gift giver.

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I agree.

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To whatever the fuck it is that you like.

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And he has a really good way of like...

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bringing that full circle to

::

some capacity of like, oh, what the fuck?

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How did you know that?

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The thing about Doug and I,

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and I can't wait to hang

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out with Brian in person

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because I feel like it'll

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be the same thing.

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Doug and I can find each

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other in a fucking room in an instant.

::

Oh, yeah, right away.

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Anytime he was walking by,

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I was sitting on the couch.

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Before I could really even

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shoot the text of where I was,

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we both do this thing every time.

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We're walking, walking, walking,

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and we do this.

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Gotcha.

::

Like, it's immediately.

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There he is.

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So he saw me sitting on the couch,

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and then he walked over to come, like,

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what's going on?

::

Like, what's happening?

::

And essentially what

::

happened was there's some

::

miscommunication between

::

whoever took the funding

::

for the conference and my school.

::

Now, if anybody knows...

::

the senior secretary who

::

runs the stuff at usd she

::

don't miss she does not

::

miss those folks don't they

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don't miss and so when I

::

got there they had half of

::

our registration but they

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didn't have mine and they

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mislabeled the registration

::

that went through and took

::

it for vanessa's instead of

::

mine so that's what that's

::

the context yeah

::

But anyway, so we got it resolved,

::

but he kept going,

::

but he got to see me like, he was like,

::

and then as we're like working on it,

::

like halfway through, he's like,

::

this is why I didn't want

::

to tell you because I knew

::

you were going to like come and do this.

::

Cause basically I was like,

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I'm not going to the story.

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I'm going to like, I was like, you need to,

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I should tell you paid for this.

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Like you need to be going to things.

::

So we got it.

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We had to get it resolved.

::

This is what happened.

::

I don't know why he's

::

rushing through this damn story.

::

He saw me.

::

Okay.

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He saw me.

::

He said, what the fuck is going on?

::

So I explained to him what was going on.

::

And he was like, well,

::

He said, as a friend,

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I can't let this happen.

::

That's how he started.

::

That's a good friend.

::

And then he says, as your customer rep,

::

it doesn't make sense for

::

you to come all the way out

::

here and have you missing conferences.

::

Let's get this fixed.

::

Before I could say, okay,

::

he just took off.

::

He took off and started

::

talking to one dude.

::

I didn't know who the people was.

::

He took off, talked to one dude.

::

One dude started giving him directions.

::

Go find blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

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blah, blah.

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So then Doug says, okay, yeah, for sure,

::

for sure.

::

He comes, he says, follow me.

::

So I

::

I just get my black ass up

::

and I follow him.

::

I follow my white savior to freedom.

::

He goes, he walks me to this,

::

it's the back private room where,

::

you know,

::

the black looks like the

::

background logistical shit.

::

And I run into, is it Miss Stephanie?

::

Yes, it was Stephanie.

::

Shout out to Miss Stephanie.

::

I ran into Miss Stephanie

::

and she's typing away and she says, yeah,

::

give me one second.

::

And he tells her the situation.

::

She says, oh, no, we can't have that.

::

And so she gets up and she says,

::

follow me.

::

So I follow her.

::

And now two white saviors.

::

I'm just being led to grace.

::

And so they lead me to the

::

table and shout out to the

::

lady at the table.

::

I think her name was Deborah

::

or Debbie or something like that.

::

She was super nice.

::

um especially because I saw

::

her interacting with some

::

people that was kind of

::

very mean and then unshot

::

out to the pretty boy that

::

was working behind the desk

::

that was not part of

::

anthology but he was just

::

pretty boy that wasn't very

::

helpful oh okay not helpful

::

at all um and so deborah's

::

trying to figure it out

::

she's super nice super

::

patient he takes me to the

::

table they do some talking

::

I'm at the wall because I'm

::

like listen I ain't got

::

shit to do with this

::

because she just got out of

::

the first session we wanted

::

to go to and it's the first

::

session of the whole thing

::

that was a major one for

::

our program so we go and

::

then Doug they turn around

::

they text somebody who's

::

about to be one of the

::

fucking keynotes or

::

preparing for the keynote

::

says can we override this

::

thing they shoot a text

::

message they say yeah

::

because we'll get it

::

figured out later and the

::

next thing I know I got a

::

badge around my neck and

::

then I'm headed to a

::

fucking keynote this dude

::

is he's great Corporal Doug is nuts

::

Corpo Doug for the win.

::

Amazing.

::

It makes me sound like I'm a

::

robot with a very specific mission.

::

Not at all.

::

He's smiling and laughing the whole time.

::

I really was.

::

I really was.

::

Wow.

::

Doug went to work.

::

He went to work.

::

He did.

::

This is awesome.

::

I sat there for an hour and

::

a half without a session.

::

He cleaned it up in seven minutes.

::

Yo, I love this story, one, because, like,

::

for people that are really

::

good at their job and, like,

::

they're specialists at it, like,

::

maybe their spouse knows,

::

but they'll never see them do, like,

::

a Super Bowl performance.

::

Oh, yeah, no.

::

So, Marcus, you're so lucky you got to,

::

like, be in the moment of, like,

::

I'm seeing magic happen right now.

::

It's going to get whisked away,

::

and it's done.

::

And how he hates this,

::

because I'm talking about him.

::

And, Brian,

::

how many people love Doug that

::

work with him?

::

Because every time we walked up,

::

somebody's like, you know Doug?

::

I love Doug.

::

Every time.

::

Everybody was like, you know this guy?

::

I love this guy.

::

Like, this guy's fucking great.

::

And I'm like, I know.

::

What an endorsement.

::

Oh, my goodness.

::

It was great.

::

Oh, Doug, I hope you're feeling the love.

::

I do.

::

I feel the love a lot.

::

It's uncomfortable, but I like it.

::

I feel it.

::

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

::

I love it.

::

um but good well I'm glad I

::

mean and it was fun having

::

you there and it was it was

::

a good time all around so

::

all right don don from

::

atlanta why are you called

::

don and why are you from

::

atlanta let's get into it

::

baby okay so okay so so

::

let's talk about so let's

::

go back to disney springs

::

for a second so when

::

britney and I went there

::

with the kids like three

::

years three years ago

::

three years ago there is a

::

chocolate store called the

::

ganachery yes and it is

::

amazing yeah and you can

::

pay like eight bucks to

::

have the best s'more made

::

right in front of you of

::

all time yeah yeah but what

::

was funny was we went in

::

there vanessa marcus and I

::

and I was like I gotta get

::

a s'more and then I have to

::

get some chocolate for

::

britney like to bring back

::

and that's what I wanted

::

And so she goes, how many s'mores?

::

Three?

::

And this only happens to me

::

because she said, what's the name?

::

And I said, Doug.

::

And I didn't quite

::

understand what she said back to me,

::

but I went, yep, that's right.

::

You got it.

::

And then moved on.

::

like and so I turned the

::

window and I started and I

::

started looking at like

::

they're making the s'mores

::

and I was like oh this is

::

really cool and we're

::

checking out some of the

::

chocolate on the wall and

::

stuff like that and then

::

they come out and they've

::

got like she comes out and

::

she goes I have a I have a

::

s'more for marcus vanessa

::

oh and and don make sure

::

don gets his and I was like what

::

And I was just so excited to

::

get my s'more because I was very excited.

::

I wanted that.

::

Of course.

::

It was just so great to ever

::

come out and be like,

::

make sure Don gets his.

::

And you're just standing there like,

::

who the hell is Don?

::

I'm like, I guess I'm Don now.

::

Basically, I guess I'm Don now.

::

That's who I am.

::

She was pointing at all of us.

::

I thought the shit was going

::

to be custom with our name on it.

::

By the way, fucking delicious

::

That shit was so good.

::

So you can watch them make

::

it in the window.

::

So I'm like, oh, she asked for our names.

::

It's only six of us in the store,

::

and the store is by YAB.

::

She asked for our names, and I'm like, oh,

::

it's going to have our name

::

written in chocolate across

::

the top or something like that.

::

You know, whatever.

::

It didn't.

::

So her asking for our names

::

was just kind of like, I guess...

::

Plus, I don't know.

::

She didn't have to call him Don.

::

She just called him Don.

::

No,

::

she was very excited that my name was

::

Don.

::

She was like, and one for Don.

::

And I was like, okay.

::

So Don just became my Florida name.

::

That just became my Florida name.

::

I was on the dance floor.

::

We was all on the dance floor.

::

Don turned up.

::

Don likes the salsa.

::

That's what it is.

::

Don likes to move his hips.

::

Okay.

::

Okay.

::

It was good.

::

It was so good.

::

Listen, we partied together.

::

That was the first time we

::

partied together.

::

And that was so much fun.

::

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

::

That's the Doug move.

::

And he looked clean.

::

He had the white linen on

::

with the all white shoes

::

that he kept clean the whole time.

::

Oh, wow.

::

This dude was... He was in a

::

different bag.

::

Looking fly.

::

He was in a different bag.

::

Don from Atlanta looking fly.

::

That's right.

::

And I'm from Atlanta because

::

of... Because of...

::

this is going to be the most

::

different fight in the

::

history of the world

::

Him versus the airlines.

::

That's basically what it is.

::

So we were supposed to come

::

back on Thursday.

::

Now I could go into a whole

::

saga about the day that I

::

spent at Universal Studios

::

Islands of Adventure

::

because I did that too.

::

Oh, I didn't know that.

::

Yes, I did.

::

This conference ended Wednesday night,

::

really Thursday morning.

::

Marcus and Vanessa flew out

::

at the ass crack of dawn.

::

My flight didn't leave until 6 p.m.,

::

so I was like, well,

::

I have the whole day.

::

I'm not going to do anything else.

::

I just made the decision.

::

I was like, let me go there.

::

I went to Islands of

::

Adventure for the day and hung out.

::

I went to

::

Harry Potter world and

::

Jurassic park world.

::

And it's really kind of cool.

::

It's a different vibe.

::

If you've been to Disney and

::

then you go to universal studios.

::

Yeah.

::

It's different.

::

Like it's not,

::

it's not a stark difference.

::

It's not as stark difference

::

as they people as like Disney,

::

like adults would want you to believe,

::

but there are some,

::

there's some things that

::

are just a little bit,

::

like a little bit different.

::

I almost threw up on a Harry

::

Potter ride next to three teenage girls.

::

Which, which ride.

::

Okay.

::

So, I had been drinking the night before.

::

Okay, I understand now.

::

I got up at 9.

::

I got up at 8.

::

And I went to Universal Studios.

::

And the first ride I went on

::

was the Hagrid's Motorbike Adventure.

::

Yes.

::

Which is a really cool and

::

fun roller coaster.

::

Yeah.

::

But y'all, I'm 37.

::

So,

::

I can't go on a roller coaster and then

::

five minutes later be on another ride.

::

Like, I...

::

There needs to be some time

::

for us to reboot.

::

I need my inner ear to get acclimated.

::

I need I need all the shit to happen.

::

Because I went to go on the

::

I think it's escape from

::

Harry Potter like ride

::

that's like in the castle.

::

Yes.

::

I went on that because, again,

::

I'm a single dude in a

::

place for families.

::

So I just went on every single rider.

::

Oh, yeah.

::

You just walk right up.

::

I walk right up for a lot of this shit.

::

And that's what I was like.

::

So there was maybe 20

::

minutes from when Hagrid

::

ended in the next one started.

::

But this one was like,

::

it bounces you up and down.

::

Yeah.

::

Bins me around.

::

So it's me walking.

::

flop sweating next to three

::

fucking teenage girls from

::

a different country.

::

At one point,

::

I closed my eyes and I was like, I can't.

::

I can't do it.

::

And then there were other

::

times where I was like, not on them.

::

And I went like...

::

just like I couldn't like I

::

just and so I got off you I

::

wish Brittany recorded the

::

phone call me after like

::

when I got off of this

::

thing because I got off and

::

I called Brittany she goes

::

how's it going and I'm like

::

I think I'm gonna die like

::

It's not good.

::

I went on too many rides and

::

now I don't feel good.

::

I don't know what happened.

::

I need to put into context

::

the ride inside the Harry

::

Potter castle is a very

::

glorified theater ride

::

where the seats move.

::

This isn't going upside down or anything.

::

It moves you up and down and

::

they create the feeling

::

that you're dropping.

::

absolutely stomach did not

::

like it but brian is saying

::

this is not like a roller

::

coaster tilt the world this

::

is not a roller coaster

::

you're sitting in a 37 year

::

old man who did one roller

::

coaster before this and was

::

out in the florida heat and

::

went oh no oh no yeah

::

Just a quick little brief thing.

::

I had a hangover for my

::

first half of my flight.

::

The first hour.

::

I was fucked up.

::

A wine hangover is terrible.

::

Oh, it messes with your head.

::

But anyway, so I did that.

::

And then I tried to fly home.

::

That's all I tried to do, you guys.

::

That's all I wanted to do

::

was try to fly home.

::

And so I got on my flight.

::

Well, first off...

::

I didn't know that airplanes

::

can't fly in lightning.

::

I didn't know that.

::

They avoid those storms, yes.

::

Yes, they try to generally do that,

::

which was a new thing for me.

::

I was like, okay, I didn't know that.

::

So I get to the airport.

::

I'm at my gate, and I'm like, okay,

::

we're in a little bit of a

::

delay because there's

::

lightning in Atlanta,

::

and there's a storm coming here,

::

so we've got to time this out right.

::

And so...

::

We get going.

::

And then because there was a ground stop,

::

all the planes were backed up.

::

So we sat for three hours on the runway.

::

yeah like just getting to go

::

and then finally someone

::

was like we need to get off

::

and then finally someone

::

was like there's a medical

::

emergency so they took us

::

back to the gate so it is

::

so it is eight o'clock so

::

it is 9 30 when we get back

::

to the gate they wait 30

::

minutes we get up we fly to

::

atlanta well we land and

::

I've already missed my

::

connection to get home bummer

::

And so then I take, it's like 1230.

::

Like, no, it's like one 30 in the morning.

::

I take an Uber to some hotels.

::

They are all booked up.

::

I take another Uber to

::

another group of hotels.

::

And that at two 30 in the

::

morning on Friday,

::

July 19th is when cloud

::

strike happened because

::

they couldn't book me a room.

::

They couldn't put me anywhere.

::

So I had to sleep in the

::

lobby of a hotel in downtown Atlanta.

::

Doug, you did not!

::

For three hours.

::

And the only reason why I

::

slept was because the man

::

who worked at the front desk was very,

::

very nice.

::

Because he goes, hey,

::

go sit down in the lobby.

::

It's probably only going to

::

be a couple minutes while

::

our system reboots.

::

You go relax.

::

Well, I lied down and I...

::

passed out because I was

::

tired like I had you were

::

exhausted I had walked all

::

day I was outside in the

::

heat all day I had traveled

::

I felt really safe because

::

the front door locked like

::

that you had to be buzzed

::

in and so I just fell

::

asleep and so I woke up at

::

I think like I woke up at

::

around like seven and it was too,

::

they had CNN or they had the news on, um,

::

they had the news on and

::

the news was saying like

::

millions of people stranded, like,

::

you know, airlines, hotels,

::

all affected by this glitch.

::

You know, there's going to be delays.

::

We don't really even know

::

what's going to happen.

::

Um,

::

So I got to the airport and

::

I watched the equivalent of

::

what I can only call as the

::

flight apocalypse in real

::

time because I was rebooked

::

to come home on at like a 310 flight.

::

But I got there early because I was like,

::

this is going to be a shit show.

::

Yeah, I can just feel it.

::

And so I spent the whole day

::

at the airport.

::

I was there from like 8 a.m.

::

until about midnight and

::

midnight and at around midnight.

::

Around 1130 p.m.

::

is when they finally

::

canceled my flight and they

::

had to put me up in a hotel,

::

but they couldn't get me

::

out till what's today, Monday.

::

They couldn't get me out

::

until basically last night

::

at like 1030 p.m.

::

But I got on my plane and I made it home.

::

I got home, got in late this morning,

::

early this morning, like really early,

::

like three in the morning.

::

But it was I made it.

::

So, yeah, you're here, man.

::

I am here.

::

I made it.

::

So I'm glad you say I didn't

::

know you slept in a lobby like I did.

::

That's that's nuts, man.

::

Yeah, it was wild.

::

Something's got to give at that point.

::

And like, I don't I don't blame you at all,

::

man.

::

Like, I mean, and he and the guy,

::

I could hear him because I

::

was not I was asleep.

::

But I still you ever sleep

::

somewhere like in an

::

airport or somewhere public?

::

It's like you're asleep.

::

It's like you tell that you're sleeping,

::

but you still kind of have

::

your wits about you.

::

You're like aware.

::

Yeah, yeah.

::

I could hear him because he goes, oh, hey,

::

I'm not going to get it fixed.

::

And he was talking to

::

another guest who was trying to check in.

::

And she checked in because

::

she went out and took like

::

$800 in cash out of an ATM

::

to pay for her hotel bill.

::

And I was like, I don't know.

::

I can't do that.

::

But and that's what she tried to say.

::

She's like, well, you could take out cash.

::

I'm like, yeah,

::

it's not going to work for me.

::

Don't ask any questions either.

::

I'm not trying to conceal an affair.

::

I can't do that here.

::

I'm glad to toss $100 your

::

way if you've got a bed I can sleep on.

::

Anyway, so yeah,

::

so I I just conked out and

::

I could hear him.

::

He's like, oh, OK, he's asleep.

::

And he just let me go like he didn't.

::

He didn't wake me up.

::

He just kind of said, like,

::

this guy's exhausted, clearly.

::

So I shout out.

::

I don't even remember his name,

::

but shout out to that guy

::

who worked at the Courtyard

::

Marriott downtown Atlanta.

::

So I just decided that he

::

was going to let me sleep.

::

Yeah.

::

And then I spent the next

::

two days in Atlanta and I

::

learned a lot about Atlanta.

::

I learned that don't drive

::

there unless you'd like to

::

die because the driving is terrible.

::

And also strange observation.

::

But I'm going to say it out loud.

::

I think black people take

::

better care of their feet

::

than white people do.

::

I mean, I would believe that.

::

I would.

::

Last year,

::

y'all discovered washing your legs.

::

Well, yeah, we did.

::

It's true.

::

We did.

::

Because I looked and I was like,

::

all these people are wearing sandals.

::

And I got to see white feet

::

versus black feet.

::

And I was like, man,

::

put socks on white feet.

::

This is pitiful.

::

This is so bad.

::

It's pitiful.

::

Nobody doing a skincare regimen.

::

No one.

::

No one's getting a penny.

::

No.

::

And even like even the dudes,

::

everybody like he's like everybody.

::

It's just a cultural thing.

::

But yeah,

::

I think they take better care of

::

their feet.

::

Wow.

::

I'm glad we won something.

::

You did.

::

You won the foot care race,

::

which is which is great.

::

Thanks, CrowdStrike,

::

for allowing Doug to look

::

at all of those feet.

::

Because knowing is half the battle.

::

but yeah that's uh that's me

::

that's why that's why I'm

::

don from atlanta don from

::

atlanta you lived you yeah

::

so can you can doug if you

::

remember off the top of

::

your head can you read the

::

facebook post that you made

::

about like oh yeah I think

::

that that was like that was

::

like a really good

::

perspective it was a good

::

way that one was fucking

::

that one was fucking wild yeah

::

Just trying to keep up with

::

the... We were texting in

::

the Oyster chat between

::

Vanessa and I. Vanessa was

::

so disappointed.

::

I think she was more upset.

::

Vanessa's mom of three.

::

I think she was way more upset.

::

Also another motherfucker who...

::

did not stop going.

::

Like she kept going, going,

::

she went from a wedding to

::

this trip to doing something else.

::

Yeah.

::

They party and like, yeah, for sure.

::

Yeah.

::

So the time that I spent in

::

the airport from when I

::

tried to leave on Thursday

::

until I got to the hotel on Thursday,

::

Friday I said time in

::

airport 27 hours I took

::

32,337 steps I had only

::

slept four hours and the

::

estimated calories burned

::

was 1,401 in that like 27 hour time frame

::

Thanks, Apple Watch,

::

for giving me those fun statistics.

::

And we don't have to talk about it,

::

but I only have to wonder,

::

what is the compensation?

::

Obviously, out of everybody's control,

::

to a certain extent,

::

there's conspiracy theorists part of me,

::

which is like, this is wild as fuck.

::

I heard a lot of those in the airport.

::

Yeah.

::

That's a place you're going

::

to hear it for sure.

::

We've been living in so many

::

unprecedented times.

::

I just want this to be

::

precedented for two days.

::

Just let shit be normal.

::

I would love a precedented year.

::

I want a year where

::

everything has a precedent.

::

It's fine.

::

Just give me a year in this decade.

::

It just feels like every

::

year starting in 2020,

::

it's just been like, can you believe it?

::

This has never happened before.

::

I'm like, I'm tired, boss.

::

I just want to go to bed.

::

I want to go to bed without

::

worrying about without

::

worrying about something in

::

the future that'd be great

::

for me it was like once

::

Nipsey Hussle Kobe Bryant

::

and George Floyd passed

::

away that was like they

::

must have been look at

::

Bryant it's you're going

::

somewhere else but here we are

::

Let's move on.

::

Anyway, I will say this.

::

I will say this.

::

You're right.

::

Jesus Christ.

::

I will say this.

::

I did get complimented on my

::

ability to... Wait,

::

Brian said... What did you say, Brian?

::

Brian said, in the middle of me talking,

::

I locked eyes with his square,

::

and Brian said, oh...

::

That's why you gotta let

::

everyone finish their sentences, folks.

::

No, you're fine.

::

That's hilarious.

::

I did get complimented on from a girl.

::

There was a woman I was

::

sitting next to at a

::

restaurant on Sunday.

::

A girl.

::

Just like a 50-year-old lady.

::

Anyway,

::

I was sitting next to this woman in

::

a bar-like restaurant in the airport,

::

and she heard me talking to the waitress,

::

and she goes, where are you from?

::

I said, I'm from South Dakota.

::

She goes,

::

you sound like you've been living

::

in the South your whole life.

::

And I said, you know what that is?

::

I said,

::

I've been hanging out with my

::

friend Marcus, and he's from Houston,

::

and that's the reason why I

::

talk like this.

::

Because I always would say things,

::

like you know if the

::

waitress says like here's

::

here's your water I go

::

thank you so much I

::

appreciate you like and

::

that's it like but I said

::

that to everybody yeah um

::

and so it was just minding

::

my p's and q's so I got I

::

got a compliment there that

::

was fun yeah that's nice

::

Let's say he was called baby

::

by an older black woman and

::

it changed his life.

::

Yep.

::

On Friday night, on Friday night,

::

it was the best.

::

So on Friday night after.

::

So here's what happened Friday.

::

I was supposed to go to

::

Minneapolis and then

::

Minneapolis to Sioux Falls.

::

Flight to Minneapolis got

::

canceled or delayed.

::

I don't remember.

::

But I switched to go direct

::

to Sioux Falls because I was like, well,

::

I don't want to if I don't want to stop.

::

I don't want to have to.

::

Anyway,

::

so she switches my flight and then

::

they announce, hey,

::

we canceled the Sioux Falls

::

flight like 10 minutes later.

::

It is what it is.

::

But she goes, she goes, we canceled it.

::

And she goes, oh,

::

but we just put you on that.

::

She goes, come here.

::

And so I walked up.

::

And she gets me my hotel voucher.

::

She gets me a hotel reservation.

::

And she gets me, like,

::

all the stuff I need.

::

That's awesome.

::

Because thanks to the federal government,

::

if you're traveling and

::

they cancel your flight,

::

they have to give you a room.

::

They have to give you somewhere to stay.

::

And so they gave me some

::

place to stay for two nights.

::

But when she was finishing, she goes, okay,

::

baby, stay safe and get home soon.

::

And I was like, oh, yeah,

::

now I really want to.

::

Yeah.

::

Mm-hmm.

::

Yeah,

::

I have to now because you called me baby.

::

And if I don't,

::

I feel like I'm letting you down.

::

So a black woman calling you

::

baby when you need it the most.

::

Like I've gotten upgraded to

::

when I've traveled and was going,

::

I think I was coming back from Virginia.

::

And it was like, well, where are you going,

::

baby?

::

And I was like, well, you know,

::

I'm going to South Dakota.

::

And she was like, well,

::

how many black folks in South Dakota?

::

And I always make my three

::

because I'm not there.

::

And so then she laughed and

::

then she like upgraded me to first class.

::

But like you like from that.

::

It was just like one of those things.

::

Yeah, it was good.

::

But it always feels like you

::

just want her to pick you

::

up and put her in your

::

bosom and just hold me.

::

Just hold me.

::

Just hold me in there.

::

I just need whatever's in there.

::

I don't know what's in there,

::

but it feels like peace.

::

Just put me in there.

::

But anyway, that's what I got.

::

Well, we should probably talk like,

::

I don't know, movie news or something,

::

I guess.

::

Movies?

::

A little bit.

::

Is this a movie podcast?

::

On this podcast.

::

What?

::

In this day and age.

::

On this here land?

::

um well uh I will talk I'll

::

turn it over to brian brian

::

do you want to run down uh

::

you know what's going on

::

with wb first they merged

::

with discovery and now

::

maybe they might not like

::

what's going on man yeah uh

::

so it came out uh on let's

::

see here this is july 17th

::

so this came out last week

::

wednesday uh that warner

::

brothers discovery is

::

looking to break off its

::

streaming and studio

::

businesses from basically

::

literally everything else

::

in their business model

::

right right uh so they're

::

according to deadline

::

they're weighing a bunch of

::

options right now

::

One of which is to separate

::

the movie studio and the

::

Mac streaming service.

::

That would be one company.

::

So WB Pictures and Macs, that's it.

::

That's just one company.

::

And that would free it up

::

from about $40 billion of debt.

::

um the thing is though is

::

that there's a lot of other

::

businesses and things we

::

love like dc comics uh that

::

might matter to some people

::

who listen to this podcast

::

me one of the hosts of this

::

podcast yeah uh that would

::

go that would go to the debt company

::

is what I'm going to call it.

::

It's going to go to the debt company.

::

So that could be bad.

::

Um,

::

and it could basically initiate a round

::

of layoffs so that this

::

debt company tries to get it, uh,

::

under control.

::

There's like,

::

there's like this whole chart

::

of things that, um, WB discover owns, um,

::

that I'm, it's,

::

I'm not going to have like

::

an exhaustive list.

::

Um,

::

But I mean,

::

you're looking at you're

::

looking at DC Comics.

::

You're looking at Cinemax.

::

You're looking at I mean, essentially,

::

basically any TV, any like CNN, your TNT,

::

TNT Sports is there.

::

Like all of that television

::

stuff would be in the debt

::

company under this plan.

::

Yeah.

::

What up, Marcus?

::

You want to know what this sounds like?

::

What does it sound like?

::

And maybe I'm a hater.

::

What's that?

::

But it sounds like David

::

Zaslav bit off more than he could chew.

::

And this motherfucker,

::

because when we originally reported it,

::

that was supposed to be,

::

he's supposed to be the Mr. Fixer-Upper.

::

And he could get Discovery out of debt.

::

And that's why he was made

::

the fucking CEO of the company.

::

But now it sounds like you

::

bid off more than you can chew.

::

And now you're only trying

::

to take the profitable shit

::

and make money off of that

::

and dish off the rest of

::

the shit that you never

::

gave a fuck about

::

originally to somebody else.

::

Yeah.

::

And it also, it also feels like,

::

because remember daily,

::

David Zaslav was the same

::

person that was always trying to be like,

::

Hey,

::

that company looks like it's struggling.

::

We could buy them and solve

::

the debt issue by just

::

consolidating with ours.

::

So it seems like his debt

::

strategy was like, Hey,

::

I'm going to solve our debt

::

by getting into more debt.

::

Like, and that's shocker.

::

That doesn't always work.

::

Like it doesn't always work.

::

So yeah.

::

Yeah, I don't know.

::

I mean,

::

they they made this whole big to do

::

about merging.

::

And now two years later,

::

they're ready to split up

::

and and make no mistake here.

::

Like we we know how this

::

story ends if they do end

::

up splitting that that

::

company that doesn't go on

::

the Golden Parachute company.

::

So if you're not making WB

::

movies and you're not doing

::

anything for Max.

::

you're gonna get laid off or

::

you're not gonna get raises

::

or you are I mean you're

::

gonna get sold for pieces

::

um basically um I would

::

assume dc comics would

::

probably stay there but

::

they're probably gonna be a

::

husk of what they were

::

since comics are not super

::

profitable and you're

::

trying to invest into your

::

dc comics not just the

::

movies like you're trying to do the whole

::

um I i doubt I doubt they're

::

gonna be you know cnn that

::

would go with that like I

::

just I we know how it ends

::

and all that stuff is gonna

::

go away and it's gonna be

::

uh like there's gonna you

::

know there's gonna be gotta

::

take tighten our waistband

::

around here folks and it's

::

gonna be like we didn't

::

make 40 billion in debt so

::

anyway that is something uh

::

wb uh is considering warner

::

brothers discovery technically um

::

um that's something they're

::

considering so who knows

::

maybe there's gonna be two

::

companies now that's you

::

know warner brothers

::

discovery um you know after

::

they were two companies and

::

now one and now they're

::

gonna be two again

::

The more things change,

::

the more they stay the same.

::

Pretty much.

::

Disney, go buy DC Comics.

::

Oh my gosh.

::

That'd be so funny.

::

That'd be wild.

::

I wonder if they would...

::

There would be some scrutiny on that one,

::

I feel like.

::

Oh, absolutely.

::

The SEC might not like that one.

::

Oh, that wouldn't pass to antitrust.

::

Not at all.

::

Do it before Sony gets their hands on it.

::

I know that much, or anybody else.

::

Oh, no shit.

::

Yeah, it's a good.

::

Yeah.

::

So we'll see what Zaslav does here.

::

I'm sure it will be awful,

::

whatever he decides.

::

yeah I mean probably yeah

::

it's not gonna be great he

::

does I mean he clearly

::

doesn't quite understand

::

the rules of the game he's

::

playing so it really feels

::

like you know when you were

::

in high school and you're

::

working on a project and

::

you're like my original

::

idea it's not gonna work

::

out and then you like try

::

to pivot at the 11th hour

::

and you just start like

::

writing with crayons in the

::

corners and you're like

::

this is an asteroid and you

::

just draw a brown circle

::

even though with fire

::

coming from the back of it

::

right and your project is

::

supposed to be on dinosaurs

::

but you're like no

::

we're doing space now we're

::

gonna do when they died and

::

now we're gonna pivot into

::

asteroids and where they

::

come from that's what this

::

feels like but with like

::

billions of dollars and

::

executives that's what this

::

feels like and then I feel

::

like Zaslav's gonna bring

::

this you know to the board

::

in the next few months and

::

be like look what I made

::

they're gonna be like

::

there's more glitter glue

::

on that than we thought

::

there was gonna be laughter

::

Is that just tape sticking out?

::

Is that not even holding anything in?

::

Nope.

::

Did you make that out of newspapers?

::

And did you use Gorilla Glue

::

on construction paper?

::

That's a little overkill, ain't it?

::

That seems weird.

::

It goes through.

::

That's why you use Elmer's Glue.

::

Otherwise,

::

it'll just see right through it.

::

It's just not good crafting.

::

It's not going to work.

::

I want to do something new, though.

::

That encapsulates Devin Stanislav's brain.

::

Yeah.

::

I want to do something new.

::

Yeah.

::

Oh, gross.

::

Marcus,

::

you told us some news about Apple

::

TV getting dog whipped by... Sorry.

::

No.

::

Look, that's not a phrase.

::

I'm tired.

::

That's not a phrase.

::

No one says dog whipped to anyone.

::

Honestly, that's a cool phrase.

::

I don't know.

::

I don't know, man.

::

You told us some news about

::

Apple TV getting mollywhopped

::

by Netflix.

::

Apple TV,

::

I'm getting mine from... I don't

::

want to report this because

::

it might be a sketchy place, but BGR.

::

It's BGR.

::

Apple TV reportedly has less

::

viewers in a month than

::

Netflix does in a single day.

::

So...

::

Yeah, that's the article headline.

::

Wow, wow, wow.

::

So according to the report,

::

Apple spends billions of

::

dollars a year on original shows,

::

which have strong reviews

::

and many award nominations.

::

It's just attracting 0.2% of

::

TV viewing in the U.S.

::

The most interesting data is

::

that Apple TV Plus

::

apparently generates less

::

viewing in one month than

::

Netflix does in one day.

::

And it's a little bit hard.

::

It's kind of apples to

::

oranges a little bit.

::

But it says Netflix has

::

reached two hundred seventy

::

seven point seven million

::

subscribers and more than

::

six hundred million people

::

around the world.

::

And of course,

::

all the profits and stuff like that.

::

So they're getting asked

::

what Apple TV is investing less in.

::

their TV is what it's

::

looking like that they may start doing.

::

And they have a point, just a little bit,

::

because I've heard good

::

things about the TV shows

::

that come out of Apple.

::

I know that they put a lot of time, energy,

::

the quality is high,

::

all of that kind of stuff.

::

For me personally, I ain't never buying no,

::

downloading no, paying Apple TV.

::

it's too expensive it's like

::

six bucks a month for like

::

I'm cool and it's just not

::

consistent content no it's

::

not no yeah I mean that's

::

it we kind of saw this

::

coming to like ted lasso

::

ended they didn't make any

::

plans to revamp it I never

::

watched that jason momoa

::

show c uh just because I

::

don't even know what that

::

was I mean the only show

::

that I really watch on

::

there now is severance

::

And once that ends,

::

I'm probably going to be

::

done with Apple TV.

::

You know,

::

and I do need to give credit to

::

Marcus here,

::

which started this conversation.

::

Apple spent $20 billion to

::

produce these shows and movies.

::

$20 billion with a B. Like...

::

I, I, and it doesn't feel,

::

here's the thing.

::

When you said that Marcus, I'm like, man,

::

Apple TV does not feel like

::

a $20 billion.

::

It does not at all.

::

Like Disney plus.

::

Absolutely.

::

Apple TV.

::

No, no, sir.

::

Not, not today,

::

which is just bonkers to me.

::

But I also feel like Apple

::

TV was one of those

::

services that was trying to

::

go for quality over quantity, which is,

::

Oh yeah.

::

It is fine.

::

But I feel like what happens

::

is because we have so much

::

churn and streaming, right?

::

Like you can basically watch

::

all the good stuff on Apple TV.

::

If that's all you watch for two months.

::

Yes.

::

Yeah.

::

Then you're done.

::

That's it.

::

You're done.

::

You can,

::

you can cancel it and then do it

::

next year.

::

Like you only really need

::

two months of it to watch

::

all the good stuff.

::

Um, and they, it goes back to your point,

::

Doug, they never had a consistent it, uh,

::

project where netflix does

::

it by the shotgun method of

::

just like I don't know we

::

got we got like historical

::

romance over here do you

::

want to watch kevin you

::

want to watch stuff about

::

like tentacle monsters in

::

japan and you're like oh

::

you don't good we only did

::

one season of it that's amazing

::

You want to watch a

::

documentary about these sea monsters?

::

Here you go.

::

How about, I don't know,

::

do you know Danica Patrick?

::

Yeah, I do.

::

It's just this huge shotgun

::

approach where Disney's like, look here,

::

we got Star Wars coming up

::

and we know you're going to watch it.

::

So shut up and watch Star Wars.

::

Then we got our Marvel show in two months.

::

Just stick around.

::

Pay us our money and don't go anywhere.

::

Pretty much.

::

They do have me in a choco.

::

Disney nailed it.

::

They figured out the

::

pipeline where it's like, well, I mean,

::

it's August.

::

I'm not going to cancel just

::

to re-up for Agatha.

::

I'll just watch The Simpsons.

::

It's a pretty easy jump,

::

and Apple just never got there,

::

whether it was the shotgun

::

method or the surgical bullet method,

::

I guess is what Disney's using.

::

Surgical Bully.

::

That's a great man.

::

That's crazy shit today.

::

I want you to know, Brian,

::

don't get too excited.

::

That's getting ready next to Dog Whipped.

::

So far on my list, it's Corpo Doug,

::

Dog Whipped, and Surgical Bully.

::

This might be the name of my next album.

::

Jesus Christ.

::

It always feels so specific.

::

Disney always feels so locked in.

::

I'm like,

::

I'm going to watch and you better

::

because we just dropped this trailer.

::

Meanwhile,

::

Netflix has a Mad Libs generator.

::

Honestly,

::

because I watched Atlas and

::

that's what it felt like.

::

Atlas was fine.

::

Brian, your explanation of Atlas was fine.

::

I got done with it and I was like,

::

that was all right.

::

That was cool.

::

It wasn't as bad as they

::

tried to make it seem.

::

Was that that one with Tom Hanks?

::

No,

::

this is the one with JLo and she's in

::

the robot.

::

Oh, got it.

::

Against the AI.

::

If you've ever played the

::

video game Titanfall,

::

somebody watched that video,

::

like somebody played that

::

video game and was like,

::

what if Jennifer Lopez was in Titanfall?

::

And they're like, yeah,

::

let's make it a movie.

::

Yes.

::

And with pretty decent like

::

effects and graphics and stuff like that.

::

To me, to me, like,

::

granted, just full transparency,

::

I'm still on my parents'

::

login for some things.

::

I pay for them on Disney+.

::

Many people are.

::

I have Peacock.

::

Shut up.

::

I have all of these things that I log into,

::

and I'll be honest,

::

the only three that I keep

::

in rotation is like

::

Disney+,

::

especially since they've added Hulu, like,

::

that has added a whole other layer of,

::

like, I get to watch Family Guy, right?

::

And it's right next to, like,

::

My Little Mermaid in the, like,

::

the scrolling thing,

::

which I think is hilarious to me.

::

So I got Disney+, HBO Max, of course,

::

is always in my... Or HBO Max,

::

whatever the fuck, is, like,

::

is always in my rotation.

::

And then Netflix has

::

recently gotten back into

::

my rotation because of...

::

They sometimes have the

::

older movies that I like.

::

It's kind of weird because

::

the thing that left HBO Max

::

ends up on Netflix.

::

Oh, Leaving Soon from HBO Max or Max.

::

I keep calling shit HBO Max.

::

They knew what they were doing.

::

They did know what they were doing.

::

And then heading over to

::

Netflix is where it ends up landing.

::

So it's kind of, I don't know.

::

It's interesting.

::

I'm not watching Apple TV.

::

No.

::

Unless you sponsor us.

::

And then I'll watch Apple TV.

::

You want to sponsor us?

::

We will talk up your shows all the time.

::

I feel like their movies

::

started to do better

::

because they had that movie, what,

::

two years ago?

::

Coda.

::

The one about the deaf family.

::

Oh, yeah.

::

I mean, Napoleon.

::

I mean, yeah,

::

it was on is an Apple TV movie.

::

Like there's a lot of good

::

movies that are getting some traction.

::

The Flower Moon was technically.

::

Yes.

::

Yeah.

::

So, yeah.

::

I have two things.

::

They're not relevant to each other.

::

The first is I saw the movie

::

Twisters while I was in Atlanta.

::

It was a quick spoiler-free review.

::

It was good.

::

It did a good job of like doing enough,

::

like nodding to the original,

::

but it also defined itself

::

as something clearly different.

::

Like they just,

::

I love the way in which

::

that they approached it

::

because I went into it and I was like,

::

I kept waiting for one of

::

the main characters to be like, Oh yeah.

::

And my mom and dad used to do this.

::

Yeah.

::

You know what I mean?

::

And they never, they never did that.

::

And so I was like,

::

so they made it something

::

clearly different.

::

They put a much more modern twist on it.

::

So like, that was really good.

::

Yeah.

::

Is it connected?

::

No.

::

It is because it's about tornadoes,

::

but it also isn't.

::

The only way in which it's connected,

::

and this isn't a spoiler

::

because it's in the trailer,

::

they use Dorothy from the first one,

::

and they say, oh,

::

this is really old technology.

::

Y'all, they use it once,

::

and they never use it again.

::

That is the one thing they did,

::

and that was it.

::

That is how you do a good reboot quill.

::

Like you can go one or two

::

paths because you either

::

end up like the

::

Ghostbusters where it's like, oops,

::

it's all the original characters.

::

Or you go the path where

::

it's like the Top Gun thing,

::

I guess is the exception a

::

little bit with Tom Cruise.

::

But you're like, no, it's the same idea.

::

But like, it's today.

::

And we're going to show you

::

what it is today and make a

::

new story with it.

::

Same with Axl.

::

I mean, Jesus,

::

or what you call it on Netflix,

::

the fourth reboot quill.

::

What is the cop movie with Eddie Murphy?

::

Beverly Hills Cop.

::

Thank you.

::

Beverly Hills Cop.

::

I think Top Gun Maverick

::

really set the bar for the reboot quills,

::

right?

::

Yeah.

::

Yeah.

::

And I think lately,

::

a lot of the movies that

::

are bringing back those old actors,

::

like I enjoyed Beverly Hills Cop 4.

::

I think they did a really

::

good job modernizing and

::

making it feel not like him

::

trying to be young Eddie Murphy,

::

but him and Eddie Murphy at

::

this age still doing like

::

acts of holy shit.

::

So I agree.

::

Yeah.

::

Yeah.

::

So it was really well done.

::

Glenn Powell.

::

You have a face that I love to hate,

::

but I cannot deny your

::

ability and your acting talent.

::

Listen,

::

if they put him and a rock in a room,

::

he would fuck that rock.

::

I'm going to think him and

::

that rock is fucking.

::

I thought you meant the rock.

::

I thought you meant Dwayne Johnson.

::

I thought that was an interesting thing.

::

If both of y'all heard it,

::

then I said something that was funny.

::

Look, I got some auditory stuff going on.

::

But, you know, I understand.

::

I'm picking up what you're putting down.

::

Brian, we both heard it.

::

We both heard it.

::

You did both here.

::

So it's got to be a me thing.

::

I appreciate what you're trying to do.

::

But we both heard him say it.

::

That's an article now.

::

Somebody make it what it is.

::

But, yeah, I mean,

::

he's just – I think they

::

dipped him in sex.

::

They went like, yep,

::

now threw him on screen.

::

Like they were just like –

::

I agree.

::

Dipped in sex is how he works.

::

Yes.

::

I agree.

::

Because I watched... Oh my gosh.

::

I'm going to find this movie.

::

But it's a hitman movie on Netflix.

::

I added that to the list.

::

Oh my gosh.

::

Too sexy motherfuckers kissing.

::

I forgot what the name of the movie is.

::

Don't look back.

::

I don't know.

::

It's one of those fucking

::

romantic... Don't look back at it.

::

It's like one of those

::

romantic comedies that's like,

::

it's three words, like, my left eye.

::

And you're like,

::

what the fuck are you talking about?

::

One-eyed serpent.

::

What is it, Brian?

::

What are you looking at on Netflix?

::

No, you're fine.

::

You're fine.

::

All I was going to say is

::

that Glenn Powell said a

::

movie called Hitman on Netflix,

::

and he still brought the charisma there,

::

even though he was trying to play a nerd.

::

He did sex on that one.

::

He was.

::

There are plenty of romance

::

scenes in that one, too.

::

And the other thing is that his co-lead,

::

isn't it?

::

She's from Andor.

::

Oh, I'm watching Andor tomorrow.

::

Yeah, Nick's from Andor.

::

I couldn't believe it

::

because she popped up on

::

screen and I was like,

::

I'm going to touch my Andor tomorrow.

::

Jesus Christ.

::

Diego Luna's listening and

::

he's just shaking his head.

::

He's crying.

::

He's like, this is what I've become.

::

But yeah, so it was really good.

::

I enjoyed it.

::

I enjoyed it a lot.

::

I thought I wasn't going to.

::

because I'm me and I was

::

like I even had this

::

conversation with the guy

::

who sold me my drink at the

::

movie theater I go he goes

::

yeah I don't know I haven't

::

seen it yet I'm like yeah

::

I'm not really sure why

::

they made it so hopefully

::

it's good he's like well

::

I've heard good things so

::

there was that was that an accident

::

No, I just... My voice changed.

::

It wasn't an intentional accent.

::

Accidental accent is what it

::

might have been.

::

Accidental accent is a

::

Netflix show coming this

::

year from Doug Wick.

::

It's just him.

::

It's just a hand shot of him

::

doing a bunch of accents.

::

It's like, until I can't.

::

I'm like, well,

::

that's this week's episode.

::

Bye.

::

It's like a combination of Bo Burnham's,

::

what was the thing?

::

Inside.

::

Inside and Black Mirror.

::

But it's like somehow they

::

make it just Doug doing accents.

::

It's a phone on my dashboard

::

in my car and me just

::

driving and me hearing a

::

voice and then practicing

::

it and being like, well, got it.

::

Bye.

::

Yeah, but the quality is high as fuck,

::

though.

::

It's so good.

::

The quality of this shit is

::

high production.

::

I do also really like the

::

idea of a show called Don from Atlanta.

::

I don't know why.

::

It's very childish Gambino.

::

Yeah, Don from Atlanta.

::

Yeah, it is.

::

It sounds like somebody who

::

moved there to sell insurance.

::

And he's sort of a fish out

::

of water type show.

::

But it's funny because he's

::

not from Atlanta.

::

No, exactly.

::

It would be your story.

::

He's from South Dakota.

::

I like that a lot.

::

I did wonder whether I was

::

ever going to leave.

::

And I kept telling myself,

::

maybe I'll just fucking buy a condo here.

::

Maybe this is just where I live now.

::

This is where I live.

::

I don't even blame you.

::

I was like, maybe I just live here now.

::

Um, the other thing is, it's okay.

::

So Spotify, uh,

::

does books on tape now.

::

They do audio books.

::

Love that.

::

And they have the Lord of the Rings,

::

the Fellowship of the Ring

::

on audio book on Spotify.

::

Oh boy.

::

So if you want like a 28 hour adventure,

::

you can listen to that.

::

So as everybody knows,

::

I had some time to kill.

::

So I listened to a lot of that.

::

Okay.

::

And then I also, so I,

::

so then I also started to

::

go back and watch the,

::

where I am in the book,

::

but where that would be

::

approximately in the movie.

::

And Jesus,

::

they left so much out of the

::

movie that was originally in the book.

::

And I get why they did it.

::

The book is like... J.R.R.

::

Tolkien is one of those

::

dudes that was like...

::

okay I'm gonna introduce you

::

to um I'm gonna introduce

::

you to this guy he sings

::

songs well here's four

::

pages of his song he sang

::

at a dinner like that's

::

just how it works is that a

::

tom bombadil reference yes

::

yeah yes it's a tom

::

bombadil reference and it's

::

just like it was like hey

::

he sings songs and that's

::

how he communicates so

::

you're gonna read an entire

::

chapter with this

::

motherfucker just sing the songs

::

So all you got to know is

::

Tom Bombadil just like

::

shows up in the most extra

::

way throughout Lord of the Rings.

::

Like he just shows up.

::

He shows up.

::

He doesn't add a whole lot,

::

but he just shows up.

::

He's like,

::

I got songs and stories to tell.

::

And you're just like, OK, I guess.

::

Are they helpful?

::

No, they're not.

::

No, they are not.

::

And so but the thing I like.

::

So anyway,

::

so just a thing to remind folks

::

that like you can still enjoy something.

::

if it doesn't do homage or

::

do justice to the original

::

source material.

::

Sometimes the source material is...

::

It's too long.

::

Like, don't get me wrong.

::

I really like this fantasy

::

adventure that I'm on

::

because Andy circus is the

::

one reading fellowship of the room.

::

Oh, that's a nice.

::

So I,

::

so I listened to it and it was really

::

good to listen to.

::

And so I appreciate he's a great narrator.

::

And so that's why it's been

::

so entertaining to read,

::

but sometimes you got to

::

cut stuff and that's just the way,

::

the way that's the way the

::

cookie crumbles when you go from movie to

::

to book and back and forth

::

so I know it's sacrilege

::

but I enjoy the lord of the

::

rings movies like more than

::

my experiences with the

::

books brian that is not

::

sacrilege I can completely

::

see how that's just I i I

::

it's it's so difficult for

::

me to read tolkien I

::

appreciate everything he's

::

done for fantasy

::

As a genre,

::

it does not exist the way it does.

::

I mean, he wrote a whole elven language.

::

He did.

::

I will give him his flowers.

::

Absolutely.

::

Hey, Tolkien,

::

I don't need you to describe

::

the dietary habits of every

::

fucking person you put in this book.

::

Like, he gets so down into the weeds.

::

He does.

::

He's like, okay,

::

and then they ate breakfast.

::

And their breakfasts usually consist of,

::

and it's like, stop there.

::

I can do the math on what

::

these fuckers probably ate for breakfast.

::

I don't know.

::

I feel like they don't do

::

world building like that no more.

::

They don't.

::

Shout out to him, but it's a lot.

::

But that's hard to read, for sure.

::

It's a lot.

::

um what else was that it is

::

that what I want to say

::

yeah that's all I got yeah

::

so anyway so I'm going on

::

that that audio adventure

::

um I've had that

::

observation but yeah that's

::

what I got also last thing

::

really quick uh the acolyte

::

man oh yeah talk about

::

fucking redeeming yourself

::

in a last episode of a show

::

thank I'm so glad that you

::

said it all right since

::

we're here I'm gonna do a little moment

::

Let me start here.

::

I'm going to talk about the Acolyte,

::

but I'm going to start here.

::

My Adventures with Superman

::

Season 2 is now complete.

::

It's all out on Max.

::

Another fantastic season.

::

Unlike Season 2,

::

they did not leave us with

::

a teaser of what was to come.

::

They teased Supergirl at the

::

end of Season 1.

::

And then they did a really fantastic job.

::

This is just spoiler free.

::

The villain,

::

the way that they wrote the

::

villains and their new

::

stories of Superman's

::

iconic roster of villains,

::

they did a fantastic job

::

giving it new breath.

::

I also can see the

::

similarities of how hopeful

::

this show is to what James

::

Gunn is trying to do with

::

his version of Superman.

::

There's just so many parallels.

::

I could see Gunn doing this in real life.

::

So shout out to that show.

::

The Acolyte.

::

I was not enjoying myself at all.

::

I was not enjoying myself.

::

I texted the group because I

::

felt bad because I think

::

this was the first project

::

that I literally was like,

::

I do not like this.

::

And I'm not going to

::

continue watching how a lot

::

of people seem like they

::

felt about Obi-Wan's show.

::

yo kind of I loved obi-wan

::

show I thought that shit

::

was fantastic um absolutely

::

but the acolyte just wasn't

::

sticking with me but I tell

::

you what those final that

::

final episode final maybe

::

two episodes I was like all

::

right y'all y'all were

::

building up to this and I

::

get it I just wish you

::

would have started hotter

::

yeah it I mean we're gonna

::

we're gonna spoil the

::

acolyte here uh I'm

::

planning on it but spoiler alert

::

I think the thing with the

::

Acolyte was going into the

::

New or the High Republic time period,

::

I feel like is challenging.

::

I think it's really hard to

::

get some Star Wars viewers there.

::

And it's all Jedi all the time.

::

So, like, if you were really into Andor,

::

this is going to be a bit of, like,

::

you're going to have a bit of a, like...

::

a learning curve getting into it.

::

Like, cause if you were into, I mean,

::

even if you were into Ahsoka,

::

like this is,

::

this is like the snootiest

::

of the snooty Jedi, basically.

::

It's like prequels on steroids,

::

basically for some parts of it.

::

And then on top of it,

::

you had this twin sibling arc, which is,

::

I'll be honest with you.

::

It took me like three episodes to be like,

::

okay, that's me.

::

And that's, that's OSHA.

::

Got it.

::

Okay.

::

I couldn't remember which

::

one was which at one point.

::

And it's,

::

that is not to the detriment of

::

the actor.

::

It was to me,

::

the way the story was set up.

::

Yes.

::

Because you don't,

::

You don't even get some of

::

the mysticism of the height

::

of like the Jedi and the

::

High Republic until I'm

::

going to say like episode four,

::

maybe five.

::

Yeah.

::

Which is halfway through the

::

show at that point.

::

Mm hmm.

::

Yeah.

::

Brian, I'll also say this.

::

I think the other thing that

::

made the show a challenge

::

in that respect is that

::

there's nobody grounding

::

you to anything else unless

::

you are deep into Star Wars lore.

::

Yeah, I agree with you.

::

you're on the more casual end.

::

Like you've seen all the movies,

::

but you're not, you're not like super,

::

like you haven't done any

::

backwards reading.

::

Like you haven't gone into

::

any of it in super depth.

::

This is going to feel very fringe.

::

Like I would be willing to

::

bet like the average star Wars viewer,

::

like the average star Wars fan.

::

If you ask them to tell you

::

who the night sisters were,

::

they're not going to be able to like, yeah,

::

let me pop that shit off

::

the top of my head.

::

Not a lot of folks are going

::

to be able to like, tell you that.

::

Um, and so really hard,

::

but like what Marcus said,

::

this like last two episodes,

::

like last three,

::

that episode where they had, um,

::

the guy from the good place and OSHA,

::

cause I can't remember the

::

actor's name and they were,

::

he was telling her like, well,

::

the Jedi don't own the force.

::

I was like, fuck.

::

Yeah.

::

This is what,

::

Like, this is what we needed.

::

Like, this was awesome.

::

That was huge.

::

Yeah,

::

that was good because it kind of gave

::

that foreshadowing to Anakin.

::

Like, hey,

::

one day you're going to run into

::

this thing that's like,

::

who are you to think that

::

you can control all the...

::

You know what I mean?

::

And it was like, oh, fuck, yeah.

::

I saw a tweet that said, yeah,

::

I'm with him.

::

There needs to be a

::

separation of church and state.

::

And I thought that shit was hilarious.

::

I think that was the other hard thing.

::

I have a couple shout-outs I

::

want to do here.

::

Do it.

::

That was the hard thing for

::

me about not enjoying the

::

acolyte is the casting, I think,

::

was really, really good.

::

It was very good.

::

I think you picked the right people.

::

Like, shout-out to Lee Jong-jae,

::

who played Soul.

::

Oh, my gosh.

::

I think he learned English.

::

for this role.

::

Yeah.

::

Yeah.

::

Amandla Stenberg,

::

and I think we go by they

::

them plays May and OSHA.

::

Fantastic.

::

Manny Jacinto,

::

like who played the stranger?

::

Absolutely fantastic.

::

And then I just looked up a

::

picture of Mother Coriel,

::

played by Margarita Laevia.

::

La Viva.

::

Which character?

::

Mother Coral.

::

Oh, the Nightsister.

::

No, I think she was the Nightsister.

::

Oh, yep, you got it.

::

Listen, hey man,

::

that's all I'm going to say.

::

I didn't know your game.

::

I wasn't familiar with your

::

game underneath all that makeup.

::

Shout out to the visual effects artist.

::

God damn.

::

But no,

::

I think the cast was like the cast

::

is fantastic.

::

I love soul.

::

I love that.

::

Yeah, I love how it ended.

::

Right.

::

It's like a spoiler alert

::

one more time to to have soul be like,

::

listen,

::

I thought I was doing the right

::

thing because of how I was.

::

This is how I interpreted it.

::

yeah I was raised to be a

::

jedi okay I understand I'm

::

wise right they said that

::

they say soul is one of the

::

wisest motherfuckers and

::

he's the most compassionate

::

and the most caring he

::

legitimately was given the

::

power by the system that he

::

was in to go and do a task

::

and because of that he

::

believed he did the right thing by

::

Calling out the witches and

::

the way that they were

::

using the force and the way

::

that Ocean and May were created.

::

And he legitimately thought

::

he was doing the right thing.

::

Legitimately felt he tried

::

to save May before she fell

::

and wanted to wait.

::

He felt bad about that.

::

But he also didn't have a

::

lot of remorse about what

::

happened because that

::

motherfucker never

::

apologized in those final minutes.

::

No,

::

he just explained why he did what he

::

did and what happened.

::

People who are trying to

::

learn how to apologize.

::

Another explanation is not an apology.

::

I just want to make that right.

::

It's like, why did you take the cookie?

::

Well, I was really hungry.

::

Well,

::

I still don't understand why you did it.

::

No, I answered that.

::

I was very hungry,

::

so that's why I took it.

::

Because cookies taste delicious.

::

What are you not getting?

::

What aren't you getting here?

::

Not an apology.

::

And I think this show does

::

so well the things that I

::

feel like the prequels

::

tried to do and The Last

::

Jedi tells you it did.

::

And I feel like that's why

::

it's satisfying to me of

::

this idea of like...

::

Yeah, the Jedi were not, like,

::

you're made to think they

::

are these paragons when you

::

watch the original trilogy, but, like,

::

in reality,

::

they were these really weird

::

combat monks who were

::

terrible at realizing the outsized...

::

like influence they had and

::

what they did with it yeah

::

they were combat monks

::

they're like yes everything

::

way to put it everything is

::

at peace but I'm gonna

::

slice you in half but I

::

have a laser whips yeah I

::

have a laser way that that

::

I need that to be a monk okay

::

And I feel like at the end of the day,

::

and I know this is gonna be

::

surprising coming from me,

::

but when I got to the end of the series,

::

I was like, oh,

::

like this is Star Wars'

::

version of like a cop show.

::

And it's amazing because

::

they're telling you like

::

right away in the first season, like, hey,

::

these cops are maybe not

::

like on the up and up.

::

And like,

::

for the first time in my Star

::

Wars experience,

::

I empathized with the dark side.

::

Like, hold on.

::

More than episode three.

::

Like, no, seriously,

::

episode three is just so black and white.

::

No, I shouldn't say that.

::

But it's so clear.

::

I know.

::

We are films in black and white.

::

You can say it.

::

There are balloons that drop

::

when you say it.

::

I don't like that.

::

There's balloons that drop.

::

Outside the world!

::

There's a word of the day!

::

Uh...

::

But it's so clear Anakin is

::

doing bad things.

::

Oh yeah.

::

Oh yeah.

::

For good reasons.

::

Right.

::

But it's very telegraphed and,

::

and borrowed language.

::

Whereas this show was very much like, yeah,

::

like Jedi don't own,

::

they don't own anything.

::

You want to,

::

you want to come to my weird

::

mystery cave on the beach and like,

::

and wear a helmet,

::

my sensory deprivation helmet.

::

Right.

::

Yeah.

::

Exactly.

::

And like,

::

you want to come see this creepy

::

guy who just hangs out in my cave.

::

And be naked.

::

Maybe he's naked.

::

I don't know.

::

It was really strange.

::

Maybe crank up that brightness.

::

I don't know.

::

Was that Darth Plagueis?

::

Was that Darth Plagueis

::

coming out of the shower?

::

Was it Darth Plagueis at all?

::

We don't know.

::

That's what I call my Johnson,

::

Darth Plagueis.

::

That's terrible.

::

Darth Plague is the wise.

::

I mean, it does.

::

Have I ever told you the

::

tale of Darth Plague is the wise?

::

There are worse pickup lines out there.

::

Brian, you see the vision.

::

I see it.

::

He was the only one able to give life.

::

Come on.

::

If you're at a Comic-Con, that's a win.

::

You're going home with something.

::

You're not going home with something.

::

You're going home with something.

::

Bare minimum,

::

you get a laugh and everyone's like,

::

that's really funny, but no thanks.

::

Best case scenario,

::

it's an immediate case.

::

Or the middle.

::

My favorite is the middle

::

where she's in a group and

::

everybody laughs and she

::

gives a little slight

::

giggle and catches you

::

later and was like,

::

my favorite scene and this

::

is because I this is

::

because I read some of the

::

Darth Vader comic book when

::

I first had it my favorite

::

part was when the

::

lightsaber changed when she

::

bled the crystal she bled

::

the crystal like that to me

::

was such a cool part of

::

that I have a question and

::

maybe Brian or Doug y'all

::

both can answer um

::

So,

::

people were complaining about this

::

scene because I guess they didn't know.

::

Newer fans don't know about

::

making a crystal bleed.

::

It was a weird thing that

::

people were kind of upset

::

about it and they didn't understand it.

::

Yeah.

::

But somebody made the point about, okay,

::

when... I think I understand it,

::

but I kind of want to just

::

get confirmation.

::

When Anakin goes and

::

slaughters the younglings,

::

his lightsaber didn't bleed.

::

No.

::

But...

::

For Osha in this, she made hers bleed.

::

What is the difference?

::

It's not the act, right?

::

It's the emotions behind it?

::

It's the... My understanding

::

is that it's the ownership

::

of... It's something to do

::

with... And here's my reference,

::

is that when Darth Vader is

::

in the comics right after

::

he becomes Darth Vader, essentially...

::

And Emperor Palpatine says, like,

::

I'm taking your lightsaber

::

because that's a Jedi lightsaber.

::

What I need you to do is I

::

need you to go kill a Jedi,

::

take his saber and and make

::

his kyber crystal bleed.

::

And by taking it,

::

by killing him and taking it,

::

you're showing the

::

corruption in your official

::

term and how you're using it.

::

That's the reason why it's different here.

::

I don't fully understand why

::

Anakin's didn't change.

::

The only thing I can think

::

of is maybe that's because

::

he has this force bond with his car,

::

his Kyber crystal.

::

Maybe that's the only

::

explanation that I'm

::

meeting is that that's his.

::

So I don't know.

::

I'll kick it over to Brian.

::

I mean,

::

it is this process of channeling

::

all of your rage and your

::

hate and your pain and your

::

fear through the force into this crystal.

::

And the crystal is like

::

literally hurt by it.

::

Like it is literally bleeding.

::

And then it turns to that.

::

It snaps to that red color.

::

That is the philosophy.

::

And what Doug is saying is

::

exactly like practically

::

how it plays out.

::

Like you have to have those feelings.

::

With it too.

::

See,

::

that would make sense because I guess

::

if a Jedi was to grab a,

::

when Anakin grabbed the

::

Sith saber or vice versa,

::

when a Jedi grabs like had the two sabers,

::

he can grab a Jedi's

::

lightsaber and use it to

::

commit the same crimes.

::

But it's just him.

::

It's like me picking up a

::

gun after somebody else picked up a gun.

::

to shoot it.

::

It's still a weapon in the

::

hands of whoever it's a weapon under,

::

but to go through the

::

process of making the crystal bleed,

::

it now belongs to you and

::

you put something into that.

::

I think that makes a lot of sense.

::

It's a commentary on where

::

Anakin was at that time.

::

I think Anakin was

::

channeling a lot of his

::

rage and pain through

::

himself and how he reacted.

::

I think that that's kind of where he was.

::

And that's sort of the difference is that

::

you know,

::

Osha didn't know where to put any

::

of that energy until she held on to that.

::

And so I think it's a little

::

bit different too.

::

I like the way they did it though.

::

I thought it was good.

::

Oh, it looked really cool.

::

That whole crouching tiger, hidden dragon,

::

like the fight,

::

the fight choreography in

::

the final episode.

::

I was like, where has this, honestly,

::

the saber fights have been

::

pretty good in this whole show.

::

I'll give you that.

::

But in the last episode,

::

the fight choreo was really, really good.

::

The my only honestly,

::

when you get to episode

::

four of this series,

::

it just at that point, you're like,

::

I feel like I've seen so much filler,

::

like I don't fully

::

understand where this

::

mystery is leading us.

::

And then you hit episode five,

::

when you get the immediate

::

reveal of who the stranger is,

::

you find out that the

::

Wookiee the Wookiee Jedi is dead.

::

And on top of it,

::

There are two supporting

::

characters killed

::

immediately with no take backs,

::

which is what that is when

::

this show earned my respect.

::

Yes, it was like, oh,

::

like Jackie was being set up as this like,

::

I'll be your best buddy and

::

we're going to be together.

::

And then it's like, oh, no,

::

she just got shanked by a

::

red lightsaber in what

::

feels like a really brutal way.

::

three to the chest I was

::

like she like she did a

::

double lightsaber she did

::

two lightsabers and I was

::

like this is it Maggie like

::

she's going for it this is

::

my new favorite character

::

and then like boom like in

::

the same breath she's down

::

and I was like well it was

::

fun while it lasted shake

::

with a lightsaber shake

::

with a lightsaber is crazy

::

I mean, even Yord, right?

::

Yord is like Yord.

::

I thought Yord was going to

::

be this big character that kind of bought,

::

like, made Osha's story full circle.

::

They were going to tell her something,

::

reveal something.

::

Or trust her again to be a Jedi,

::

bring her back into the Jedi way.

::

And I like that lead that

::

they tried to do of, like,

::

mays osha is gonna come back

::

and be a jedi because she

::

still feels the force and

::

soul's never gonna give up

::

on her and then there was a

::

certain point somewhere in

::

the series I said oh no I

::

know how this ends I see

::

osha she has so much

::

emotion the one with less

::

control and emotions is

::

going to be the one more

::

easily manipulated like

::

it's it has its parts I

::

think it could have been

::

better in its setup and its

::

lead it wasn't like it

::

I don't know if I'd go back and watch it,

::

but I thought it was decent.

::

Yeah.

::

Yeah.

::

Absolutely.

::

The last thing I'll say is I

::

think they did a good job

::

of making Soul someone who

::

you didn't expect to be...

::

at the center of it all.

::

You didn't expect... If you

::

had told me at the

::

beginning or second episode

::

what happened in the seventh episode,

::

I would have been like, soul?

::

Really?

::

That sounds like a crazy fan theory.

::

There's something else going on.

::

I thought they did a good

::

job of burying the red herring of it all.

::

That episode, The Choice,

::

is where you're like, oh shit,

::

which is episode seven.

::

That's where you're like, oh my god.

::

This is why this is so...

::

crazy oh and I think and

::

that episode too really

::

drives home like man y'all

::

are so arrogant and this is

::

what makes you like

::

terrible like as a net

::

negative this is what makes

::

the jedi not good and on

::

top I mean honestly that

::

that sequence where soul

::

drops may like he doesn't

::

even try to savor or get

::

creative at all and he's

::

just like well I guess I'll

::

kill a child mm-hmm

::

Come with me, other child.

::

It's like now that your

::

whole it's very much like New Hope.

::

Well, your whole family's dead.

::

You can stay here.

::

You can come with me.

::

Yeah.

::

So really did a lot of

::

finger pointing with that.

::

The whole series.

::

Sorry, I thought I was done.

::

The whole series does a

::

weird thing of like, OK, May,

::

this is your fault.

::

You burn the family.

::

Yeah.

::

Burn the whole thing down.

::

And I understood that.

::

but it felt weird because it

::

almost felt like May was like, so what?

::

You know what I mean?

::

It downplayed the fact that, no,

::

motherfucker,

::

you started the fire that

::

burnt up everything, but it had so,

::

as if it was like 1A, 1B,

::

which I guess it is in thought,

::

but I was like, wait a minute,

::

she did that.

::

She's the one that

::

started the fire that killed

::

that whole community and

::

family so I was a little

::

thrown off like that I did

::

enjoy how they told Sol's

::

story of like yeah he was a

::

corrupt Jedi he did this

::

and we had to blame it on

::

somebody and that's what it

::

was I just need them to now

::

tell the other side of the

::

dark side because I don't

::

need dark side sympathizers

::

because they really did

::

well at showing like the

::

Jedi ain't all that good

::

but what they didn't really

::

do was make the dark side

::

seem unappealing yeah

::

And I think that's kind of a

::

dangerous ground to leave.

::

I agree.

::

I agree.

::

My one bit of pushback is I

::

think what I took from The

::

Force is... What I took

::

from this show in particular is...

::

The force and the ability to

::

do it sort of comes down to

::

like intent of like Jedi

::

and Sith can be called.

::

They're essentially cut from

::

the same cloth.

::

They're just their

::

motivations are very different.

::

Right.

::

And I think that that's what

::

I took from this in this sense of like.

::

this show when you're

::

talking about people who

::

are using the force we

::

can't try to ascribe like

::

ascribe too much good or

::

bad to either side of it

::

because it's all subjective

::

to where the person is at

::

and the actions that they

::

choose to enact because I

::

would say like I mean

::

technically would we call

::

osha a member of the sith

::

yes I would do I think that

::

she's evil by nature

::

Not necessarily like, you know,

::

like I don't think that

::

she's an inherently evil person.

::

So I think that that's where this is.

::

That's where I got down into

::

like a little bit more like

::

the nuance with it of like, I don't know.

::

You can't we can't paint

::

with too broad of brushes on any of it.

::

That's a hard story for me to get it.

::

I believe you and I'm with you.

::

Yeah,

::

I understand what you're saying as a

::

as a moderate person.

::

Star Wars fan.

::

I love Star Wars.

::

No, you need to have, who are we fighting?

::

Who are the bad guys?

::

Who are the good guys?

::

When you introduce me to

::

Luke Skywalker and it says,

::

in order for me to beat my,

::

at the time he didn't know,

::

but in order for me to beat Vader,

::

the bad guy's got a red saber, right?

::

Mine's blue, his is red.

::

This is blue, this is red.

::

I gotta become a Jedi and do

::

the training of a hero to go beat

::

the bad people life is

::

obviously way more complex

::

because Doug you're right

::

it's like the force of the

::

force it depends on how you

::

use it and where you land

::

now I need somebody to tell

::

the story about what about

::

the people in the middle

::

like what about the people

::

that is like it seems like

::

in this version of a story

::

you can't trust all the

::

Jedi the Sith are the Sith

::

so who the fuck is like

::

And that's what I feel like

::

this show could do.

::

And I feel like that is the

::

way some of these Star Wars

::

stories are leaning,

::

like including Ahsoka and

::

the scheduled next movie

::

with Rey that they have

::

scheduled post Rise of Skywalker.

::

like there is this theme of like, okay,

::

we know the Jedi weren't

::

all on the up and up,

::

but the Sith isn't the

::

answer and exploring what

::

that middle ground is.

::

And I feel like that's the

::

process we're going through right now.

::

And I feel like the acolyte

::

has a unique way to do it

::

where we can see the Sith process and,

::

And my guess is that the

::

second season could focus

::

on bits and pieces of it and be like,

::

yeah, they're not the Jedi, but like,

::

you're just like killing everyone.

::

The permanent solutions to

::

temporary problems where at

::

least the Jedi is going to

::

try to talk to me first.

::

and I feel like Osha's going

::

to need to make sense of that,

::

and that is where I feel

::

like the crux of that show should be,

::

and how she makes sense of

::

it could be really satisfying.

::

I mean, that rumor, too,

::

has got to kick in, too, right?

::

For the Sith.

::

Yup.

::

So...

::

Somebody got it.

::

What exactly is that dude

::

doing in the cave?

::

We don't know.

::

In fact, Darth Plagueis.

::

I mean,

::

that's where I think he could

::

really help be

::

transformational for someone,

::

because in all of the lore,

::

he's apparently incredibly intelligent.

::

Like he is not.

::

He's a very smart, has a lot of logic.

::

able to see and kind of be manipulative.

::

I mean,

::

that's why he's able to take

::

Palpatine and push him where he's at.

::

He saw the long game and was

::

able to like play it that way.

::

So, and I, yeah,

::

I feel like this is important to say,

::

like,

::

you don't have to go back and like

::

read legends books or anything,

::

but the Darth Plagueis

::

novel is pretty good.

::

If that is, if that's something you enjoy,

::

I definitely encourage you

::

to seek it out.

::

But one of the things that

::

happens in that book is

::

that basically Palpatine is

::

and Plagueis just start

::

messing with the force in

::

like really big ways.

::

And it's basically implied

::

that they're making these

::

like cruxes in the universe

::

of force energy that is

::

just like overwhelming.

::

And it's implied that like, Hey,

::

there's a lot of force

::

energy on Tatooine.

::

And there's a,

::

there's a kid there by

::

immaculate conception.

::

You say,

::

that's just this like Herald of

::

the force and,

::

interesting so I'm curious

::

I'm curious if the show

::

might touch on that and

::

having them experiment with

::

these really weird force

::

techniques that are sowing

::

seeds for the shows and

::

movies that we know and

::

love maggie has a theory

::

that this show is basically

::

going to explain how anakin

::

was able to be created

::

which I think can be really cool

::

um with the discussion of

::

vergences and creating life

::

from the force um but I

::

guess I guess we'll see

::

they haven't even announced

::

that it's getting a second

::

season so I guess we'll see yeah

::

Should we talk a little bit

::

about Deadpool?

::

I mean,

::

everybody's seen him at this point

::

in time.

::

They've been out for years.

::

But Deadpool and Wolverine

::

does come out this Friday,

::

which means that, you know,

::

if you were to do a little

::

bit of a retrospective and

::

go back and look at one and two.

::

might be able to see a

::

little bit of like you know

::

what what could we expect

::

from this one um you know

::

so thoughts on how we might

::

want to approach that

::

conversation from the two

::

of you anything that you

::

all want to note about

::

let's start here what are

::

some things that you saw in

::

deadpool one and deadpool

::

two that you really want to see in three

::

Nothing.

::

I want to see a completely

::

different story.

::

Okay, cool.

::

That is an acceptable answer.

::

Yeah, and that's a funny answer.

::

But to be honest,

::

what I like about Deadpool

::

1 and 2 are the differences between them.

::

Deadpool 1,

::

you need a really good villain

::

because I think there's a

::

consistency there in having... In 1,

::

you got Francis.

::

In 2, you got...

::

I guess the juggernaut,

::

but it's also the cable and fire fist.

::

Yeah.

::

It's a collection, I guess,

::

of time is also like a, like,

::

so you have these really good, um, like,

::

uh, opposite ends of like, whatever it is,

::

Deadpool versus insert this, whatever.

::

Yeah.

::

I think we've seen a lot of,

::

I know what Deadpool brings to a movie.

::

I want to just see something

::

different and see how he

::

pairs with Wolverine being like the, uh,

::

The strong man.

::

What do you call that?

::

The straight man.

::

For me, honestly,

::

I've been very satisfied

::

with my Deadpool experience.

::

When I re-watched the first one,

::

I was actually surprised

::

how much I enjoyed it.

::

I saw it so much,

::

I'd say five to seven years ago.

::

It got stale for me a little bit,

::

but watching it...

::

Watching it now, I'm like, man,

::

a lot of these jokes still land.

::

And like Ryan Reynolds is a

::

master of comedic timing.

::

So it's a good movie and it's a fun movie.

::

And the first one feels like so low budget,

::

even though it's not

::

compared to everything the

::

MCU is putting out.

::

And you get to the second

::

movie and like Maggie and I,

::

like when we watched it,

::

we kind of turned to each other like, man,

::

Domino's great.

::

She's great in this movie.

::

Zazie Beetz is phenomenal.

::

I love her.

::

And I was like,

::

I don't think it's going to happen,

::

but like,

::

I would love for her to show up

::

and Wolverine for a myriad of reasons,

::

even though I forgot this,

::

that at the end of Deadpool two,

::

they basically retcon the

::

entire movie in the credits

::

and everything is fine.

::

Like nothing in that movie,

::

I feel like has any

::

consequence to the overall like story,

::

which is fine by the way,

::

it's a Deadpool movie.

::

They're not there to like

::

make a giant interconnected story.

::

Yeah.

::

I think the one thing that I

::

will... I think that we'll

::

see is Deadpool 2, I would say...

::

the villain is almost a

::

little bit himself in a sense,

::

like because he's trying to

::

live with the guilt of not

::

being a hero and letting

::

his like sort of Vanessa

::

dying and owning that and

::

bearing the weight of that burden a lot.

::

And so I think that there's,

::

I think we're going to see

::

more of that in, in this,

::

in this one that's coming up,

::

especially if there's,

::

you know,

::

consequences for him jumping

::

timelines and things like that.

::

And what does that mean for

::

the little family?

::

Because even in the trailer, you know,

::

he's a vast,

::

all the people that he cares about.

::

Yeah.

::

In one place.

::

And that obviously has some consequences.

::

Um, and so, you know, what does that mean?

::

I think he's going to have

::

to live with trying to

::

protect people again.

::

And this whole, like, I am a hero.

::

I'm not a hero, that type of thing.

::

I do like the free-flowing

::

nature of Deadpool 1 and 2

::

where it feels like... Essentially,

::

it feels like Ryan Reynolds.

::

It doesn't feel like it's scripted.

::

It doesn't feel like it's anything.

::

It feels like a natural, organic, hey,

::

this punch, hey, that's a joke.

::

Hey, this is action.

::

For sure,

::

everything is in its place and it

::

flowed naturally.

::

With the bigger budget, with...

::

kevin feige saying that on a

::

scale of one to ten

::

avengers endgame on that

::

scale and like uh I think

::

he said infinity war how

::

important is this to the

::

like marvel moving forward

::

he put this at an eight so

::

like as you and like the

::

the picture that they put

::

out they put a picture of

::

um of uh dr strange's ring

::

but on the side of the on

::

the side of the ring is a

::

time stone and a reality stone

::

So, like, essentially,

::

they're setting this thing

::

up that these motherfuckers

::

can jump to any place in

::

time and reality.

::

And I think when you're

::

trying to tell that story

::

and Kevin Feige doubling

::

down and saying everything

::

from Deadpool and Wolverine

::

on is the mutant saga.

::

We just said, fuck the multiverse.

::

Did he really say that?

::

Yep, yep.

::

He said he's had a recent

::

interview somewhere and he was like,

::

everything that releases

::

now basically is like the mutant saga.

::

So you are...

::

So catapulting and using Deadpool,

::

which is perfect, I understand it,

::

and that's a great place to

::

introduce a shit ton of

::

mutants and people like that.

::

It's also dangerous if you

::

lose the spirit of Deadpool.

::

I don't think they will,

::

but I'm just saying.

::

I think you got to, you know what I mean?

::

It's a thin line in the wall.

::

Yeah.

::

Wow.

::

That is bonkers.

::

That is bonkers.

::

So yeah, that was it.

::

Absolutely.

::

I looked this up because I

::

had not heard that.

::

But yeah,

::

he said this at a press

::

conference that yeah, this is that first.

::

Wow.

::

Okay.

::

This will be the mutant era

::

coming into the MCU.

::

Wow.

::

I mean, okay.

::

That is okay.

::

I mean,

::

I guess you could say this is the

::

beginning of the mutant era

::

without saying it's the end

::

of the multiverse saga, but man,

::

it feels like multiverse

::

saga just is... I feel like

::

it's like the pocket veto of just like,

::

hey,

::

we're going to have this end of the

::

multiverse saga and they're

::

going to be like...

::

hey, how do you like mutants?

::

We're just going to start

::

talking about mutants now.

::

It's going to be like,

::

but what about the multiverse?

::

It's classic deflecting.

::

When a child says, can I have a snack?

::

It's like, well, let's go color.

::

You like to color?

::

It's kind of hard when your

::

main guy goes and fucks it

::

all up and you can't find a

::

good recasting.

::

You invested all of this

::

behind this one person and...

::

you can't finish that story

::

or it kind of finished with Loki.

::

And like, that kind of was a good out.

::

I still stand by that.

::

We talked about it on this pod.

::

Loki was a good out.

::

It was good.

::

Like, okay, we put a bow on that.

::

Everything kind of got fixed.

::

The guy doesn't, he doesn't,

::

the young King doesn't find

::

a little book.

::

So he just remains as like

::

this regular person.

::

I think that's your eject button.

::

And like,

::

the only thing you can do is

::

start talking Spider-Man

::

and start talking like a street level,

::

Spider-Man and mutants.

::

And then start really

::

getting ready for Dr. Doom

::

being the reason why Secret Wars happens.

::

It does feel like that is

::

the trajectory we are on now.

::

You got another 10 years.

::

Marvel can run shit for

::

another fucking 10 years if

::

you just hop right into that story.

::

We got no time to waste.

::

I mean, honestly,

::

I feel like they can do a

::

double here of like, no,

::

we're still doing the

::

multiverse saga officially.

::

But being able to say like,

::

but we're starting mutants now,

::

it does feel very intentional.

::

And I think it's I don't

::

know if this is the way

::

that they're going.

::

I do think it's kind of a

::

bummer because the

::

multiverse saga had a lot

::

of potential at the same time, though.

::

I do not blame Disney Marvel

::

for being like, Hey,

::

Deadpool and Wolverine.

::

This is like the soft reboot.

::

Like this is where we're

::

going on from here to course.

::

Correct.

::

Which is totally understandable.

::

It's too bad.

::

The multiverse saga couldn't

::

get its fair shot.

::

But like you said, Marcus, things changed.

::

Like a lot of things changed

::

from when it started,

::

even the leadership of Disney changed.

::

So it does make sense that

::

now that Feige has more control of this,

::

he's like, nah,

::

I know Deadpool is going to

::

be a flipping grand slam.

::

We're going to start off

::

again on this movie.

::

This is bathroom Bob Iger coming in hot.

::

That is exactly how this is

::

going to happen.

::

Who shower Bob is on the runway.

::

Yes.

::

He's ready.

::

He's ready for liftoff.

::

He's ready to chat up a

::

bunch of celebrities and

::

just invite them over and

::

then get those pictures up

::

in his bathroom.

::

Exactly.

::

I don't give a fuck what

::

y'all do just let Don

::

Cheadle and War Machine get

::

more fucking movie time

::

please let that Armor Wars

::

movie be what it needs to

::

be also I don't I think

::

what you need to do from

::

what I have seen of trailer

::

clips and interviews and

::

still images I think you

::

need to put the Fox mutants to bed

::

And I think you need to recast them.

::

And I feel like I feel like

::

that is what they're going

::

to do with this movie.

::

I do feel like this is going

::

to be tucking in all those

::

things from the previous

::

era and being like, that's it.

::

It's done.

::

And

::

You wanted to see them again.

::

Here they are.

::

I doubt Hugh Jackman's going to the MCU.

::

Honestly,

::

I think it's a 50-50 if Wolverine dies.

::

You really think Hugh

::

Jackman's going to jump into the MCU?

::

At first,

::

I would have told you no if you

::

would have asked me

::

beginning of the year when

::

we first started talking

::

about this movie.

::

I would have also said, this is homage.

::

There's all the Fox people

::

we're going to hire.

::

Hey, Hugh,

::

we appreciate you for everything.

::

Blah, blah, blah.

::

I think go two routes.

::

Either

::

He might die in this, but I don't think so,

::

because I think that

::

motherfucker coming back for Secret Wars,

::

because I think you get a

::

shit ton of money putting

::

Tobey Maguire next to

::

fucking Hugh Jackman,

::

old school Spider-Man and Wolverine,

::

and you let these

::

motherfuckers let it rip.

::

That hype train builds itself.

::

That shit's going to be...

::

They're going to make so

::

much money off that shit by itself,

::

putting them next to Tom

::

Holland and whoever they

::

decide whether it's going

::

to be X-20... Because

::

here's what I think.

::

I don't think they can recast Wolverine.

::

I think you go X-23 taking

::

over the mantle.

::

I can see that.

::

That'd be great.

::

I'm fine with it.

::

I'm fine with that.

::

Tom Holland and X-23 as the

::

new legacy of these heroes

::

and these versions.

::

I think you could do... And

::

if you really wanted to get him involved,

::

I mean...

::

if you're leaning into

::

mutants you know you could

::

always do I mean Wolverine

::

has a whole fucking like

::

family of people that are

::

based off of his genetics

::

so I mean honestly they

::

could even do the Wolverine

::

school for gifted

::

youngsters if they really

::

if Hugh Jackman really

::

wanted to keep going but

::

yeah man no I feel like

::

it's a 50-50 Wolverine

::

doesn't make it out of this movie

::

But I don't know.

::

I mean,

::

I guess maybe it's a good paycheck.

::

You're right, Marcus.

::

It's a solid paycheck.

::

He's having the most fun

::

he's ever... I see him on this press run.

::

Him and Ryan Reynolds,

::

they know... Here's the thing.

::

Here's the reality of the

::

comic book movie to me.

::

Sorry, and I know you... I see you guys...

::

Here's the reality.

::

The fucking check that Hugh

::

Jackman and Ryan Reynolds

::

are about to get for

::

essentially saving and rebooting Marvel,

::

this movie's going to make

::

so much fucking money,

::

he's not going to mind

::

putting on them yellow and

::

blue tights again for

::

another fucking... And

::

it'll just be an Avengers movie.

::

We're not getting another

::

one-off anything.

::

Oh, I agree.

::

Whatever the next biggest team movie is,

::

I think he's going to be there.

::

Yep, I agree.

::

I agree with your logic.

::

Man, I think it makes too much sense.

::

I'm waiting for him to die, though.

::

We're going to see real soon.

::

What do you want to say, Doug?

::

What I wanted to say is I do

::

hope we get to see other... I mean,

::

you could do so many other

::

versions of him.

::

I mean,

::

you could do Dokken if you wanted to.

::

Like,

::

there's so many other things that you

::

can do.

::

I do hope that whatever

::

future version of Mutants we get,

::

I do hope we get...

::

I always felt like there was

::

such a story between

::

Sabretooth and Wolverine

::

fighting each other that we

::

didn't really get a whole lot of,

::

save for Wolverine Origins.

::

You weren't satisfied with that movie?

::

Brian, I was not.

::

Believe it or not,

::

that did not quench my thirst.

::

You didn't think it was fancy?

::

Because there's a most

::

recent comic book run that came out,

::

started coming out.

::

It's all wrapped up now,

::

but I think it just

::

finished up with the 50th

::

anniversary of Wolverine as a character.

::

And it's called the Sabretooth War.

::

And their war between each

::

other gets so bad that

::

Sabretooth cuts Doc into

::

pieces and kills him.

::

Like he cuts him up and just

::

leaves him there for Wolverine to find.

::

So, like,

::

there's so much untapped

::

potential because that's

::

how Dokken becomes the next, like,

::

that's how Dokken gets the

::

Ghost Rider spirit force.

::

Like, that's how the whole thing.

::

Comic books.

::

That's all you need to know.

::

But there's so many things

::

that you could do.

::

Wow.

::

Wow.

::

I did not know that from the comments.

::

I'm sorry.

::

I was reading the comments,

::

and I did not know that.

::

You mean paying Top Shedder

::

for the complimentary coffee?

::

Yep.

::

Welcome, Herman.

::

It's okay that you're late.

::

That's okay.

::

We had to talk about why I

::

was stuck in Atlanta for

::

what felt like an eternity,

::

so we didn't get to catch that.

::

You didn't miss it.

::

On the bup side, you didn't miss it.

::

Welcome, Top Shedder.

::

so oh we did we did not do

::

catch that quotable tonight

::

yeah um gentlemen anything

::

else y'all want to say

::

about deadpool one or two

::

brian go ahead I okay I

::

just want to lock in a

::

secret envelope here how

::

much how much money do you

::

all think deadpool and

::

wolverine is going to make

::

opening weekend feel free

::

can you give me ranges

::

please because I can't give

::

you exact amount

::

So you want to do ranges?

::

I feel like we could do a $5 million.

::

85 to 90, 90 to 95, 95 to 100, XYZ.

::

How much did No Way Home make?

::

How much did No Way Home make?

::

Let's find out.

::

Because they made $260 million.

::

If they made $260 million,

::

I think that this movie is

::

going to make $300 to $350 million.

::

Really?

::

Because think about it.

::

This is a rated R Disney

::

movie with Hugh Jackman

::

back as Wolverine.

::

I heard there's a shit ton of cameos.

::

There was a report that

::

Marvel planted fake cameos.

::

out to everybody to throw

::

everybody off from the real

::

cameos that are in this movie.

::

It's going to either match

::

No Way Home or it's going

::

to beat it by like a couple million.

::

Man, we're talking, I mean,

::

we're getting into Barbie

::

territory here too.

::

I'm thinking like, yeah,

::

it's going to make some bread.

::

So according to what I found on IMDb,

::

The budget for Deadpool and

::

Wolverine is $250 million,

::

which makes it the second

::

most expensive movie in the

::

post-COVID era.

::

I will say that I do think

::

that they're going to make

::

that back opening weekend.

::

At a minimum,

::

they're going to make that back.

::

I think that we're probably

::

looking $285 million.

::

Yeah.

::

Wow.

::

In fact,

::

I want to get a super specific

::

number here.

::

I almost called you Harrison.

::

That's what I almost called you, Brian.

::

So I think it's.

::

I think it's $286.7 million.

::

Okay, and what was yours, Marcus?

::

Okay, mine feels low as fuck,

::

but you said $286.

::

Oh, no, I said $300 million.

::

I'll say $290.

::

All right.

::

I'll say $290.5 million.

::

million dollars to 300

::

million dollars I guess I'm

::

gonna be the low baller I i

::

was not expecting this but

::

I'm I'm gonna say that this

::

gets to 150 million is this

::

just opening weekend were

::

you just just opening an

::

opening oh opening weekend

::

just opening weekend okay

::

I'll pull it back I'm sorry

::

I'm sorry I'm sorry no no

::

no you're good then I'm

::

gonna go doug went 285 I'll

::

go I'll go a smooth 290

::

I'm still going to 290.

::

Yeah, I'm going to 290.

::

All right.

::

I'm sorry.

::

The price is right.

::

You brother.

::

That's fine.

::

I'm gonna, I'm gonna lock in 150 million.

::

I feel like I feel like that.

::

I just with a rated R movie,

::

you just don't you can't

::

get as many people in there.

::

I know you're bringing all

::

the 2000s X-Men fans.

::

And I know it's all the Deadpool folks.

::

I just I, I don't know,

::

I hesitate to go to 200

::

million because like

::

Deadpool and Wolverine

::

aren't Spider-Man like Spider-Man,

::

you can take your five year old to like,

::

You know, so.

::

But you're talking about

::

people with adult money who

::

like naughty words.

::

I mean, I guess.

::

And it leads to what's next.

::

However Deadpool and Wolverine end,

::

there's an end credit scene.

::

I also think you have to,

::

the other variable that you

::

have to consider here is

::

time to last the last MCU project.

::

That's right.

::

That's right.

::

Because they pulled back.

::

So what was the last MCU project?

::

Oh.

::

Last MCU movie.

::

Movie.

::

What was the last MCU movie?

::

Yep, you're right,

::

because they pulled back.

::

That's a good point.

::

Time is going to be an

::

interesting variable here.

::

What is it?

::

I'm looking right now.

::

Is it Eternals?

::

No.

::

It was the Marvels.

::

It was the Marvels back in November.

::

Yeah.

::

Yep.

::

Anybody, any of those little,

::

any of those little Hayden

::

boys that didn't like it

::

because it was a female led movie.

::

Um,

::

they are definitely coming to watch

::

Deadpool in the movie.

::

Oh, because they're, yeah,

::

they're going to be like, this,

::

this is finally what we

::

wanted to do the whole time.

::

Like this is all that.

::

That is going to get annoying, but yeah,

::

you're right.

::

Uh,

::

man now I'm thinking 160 is

::

you know what I'm gonna say

::

160 I'm gonna lock in 160

::

we'll see what happens I

::

got marcus for 290 doug for

::

did you say 286.5 million

::

286.7.5 okay you got that

::

0.5 and I'm saying 160 yeah

::

all right well we'll see

::

we'll see next week we got

::

those guesses locked in

::

that was my only question

::

that was it before we

::

started started our uh landing sequence

::

And Roman, yes,

::

we will have a charity that we will pick.

::

I know this is for domestic violence,

::

but don't try to guilt us

::

into doing Catch That

::

Quotable when we're past

::

the 90-minute monster.

::

You don't want to see us do that.

::

I've slept for like five hours, my man.

::

This is not happening.

::

And I've already called my

::

little man downstairs Dark Plagueis,

::

so we can't go back.

::

I almost called...

::

I almost called armor wars, armor,

::

warmer wars.

::

So we're, we're just, we're,

::

we're cruising.

::

You could change it to sad

::

dog face if you want to,

::

but if you're not going to not, not today,

::

not today, sir.

::

I guess he does pay enough to guilt trip.

::

Yeah.

::

Hey, gentlemen,

::

what do you all have to plug this week?

::

Hey, folks,

::

I'm here to tell you about

::

Color Me Confetti.

::

Head on over to Etsy.com and

::

search Color Me Confetti.

::

All one word.

::

That is my wife's event

::

supply printable shop.

::

You can find anything there

::

printed at home.

::

That's Color Me Confetti.

::

Absolutely.

::

Marcus, what you got?

::

Sorry, I'm playing music.

::

Okay.

::

Do it.

::

It's kind of loud.

::

Jesus Christ.

::

My bad.

::

Make sure you follow the mantra,

::

never offended, always humble.

::

You want to follow the mantra, NOAH,

::

N-O-A-H.

::

I got it.

::

new music on the way listen

::

let me hold on let me pause

::

this music real quick

::

listen let me tell you

::

something I got new music

::

on the way and I'm so deep

::

in my fucking bag I turned

::

a bag into a boot okay so

::

like that's how we coming

::

all right so it's it's it's

::

it's there's a lot of new

::

music on the way real's got

::

new music soul tie's got

::

new music on the way go buy

::

yourself some merch uh I

::

got some exciting things

::

that I guess are coming uh

::

five or five hundred entertainment

::

is going to be coming.

::

500 Energy and Entertainment.

::

So a lot of consulting, a lot of DJing,

::

a lot of hosting,

::

all that kind of stuff is

::

coming on the way.

::

But until then, follow the mantra,

::

never offend it, always humble.

::

I have to plug this podcast.

::

Hey,

::

if you enjoyed our plenary recap of

::

our adventures across the

::

continental United States,

::

if you enjoyed our

::

discussion about different

::

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::

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::

share us with a friend or a

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Always appreciate it.

::

All of you in the Patty family.

::

But gentlemen,

::

we have a three-step process to success.

::

What is that first step?

::

Brian Rausch.

::

Hey, folks.

::

I'm here to tell you to read a book.

::

We got time now.

::

We just talked about the acolyte ending.

::

We just talked about my

::

adventures with Superman.

::

House of Dragons, I'm pretty sure,

::

is wrapping up here.

::

So you got time to read.

::

It's like a TV show in your head.

::

Read a book.

::

Absolutely.

::

Absolutely.

::

uh marcus what do you got

::

for me sir hey brother you

::

want to make sure you drink

::

some water my brother doug

::

was stuck in a fucking

::

airport that man was

::

walking around all of

::

atlanta looking at feet

::

like not in a creepy way

::

but like just analyzing

::

respectfully respectfully

::

looking at feet but you

::

know what he did while he

::

was there he drank some

::

water stay hydrated and you

::

gotta stay hydrated my baby

::

buy yourself some good

::

stuff sometimes you ain't

::

always gonna drink out the

::

faucet buy yourself some

::

boss or whatever it is that

::

sponsors us to promote on

::

this podcast but drink some water

::

Yeah, absolutely.

::

Hey,

::

and if you really are outside in

::

Florida in July, wash your ass twice.

::

I did that when I was traveling.

::

I did it.

::

You got to get that stuff off.

::

You got to stay clean.

::

Look,

::

you don't want to smell like you've

::

spent like 27 hours in an airport.

::

So just wash that ass.

::

Keep it in the state you

::

left and just take care of your body.

::

It'll take care of you.

::

Roman, his step four this week.

::

is... Oh, you got it.

::

Step four, don't go frothing with family.

::

Go watch the live films of

::

Black and White stream instead.

::

Hashtag FOMO.

::

You spend time... I appreciate,

::

but also spending time with

::

family is important.

::

Um...

::

But that does it for this

::

week's episode of Films in

::

Black and White.

::

We will be back next week

::

with another fantastic episode.

::

We're going to be talking

::

Deadpool and Wolverine.

::

But in the meantime,

::

and in the between time, stay safe,

::

stay healthy.

::

We love y'all.

::

We appreciate y'all.

::

We'll catch y'all next week.

::

You got one under par though.

::

One under.

::

Worth it.

::

Put your carrot.

::

The carrot.

::

You said carrot.

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